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Comment #7342860 by Andrea Brown

Andrea Brown Jul 3rd 2018, 9:58 PM #

Ireland is supposed to be a neutral country. It is bad enough that we are antagonising the Russians, which we should have stayed out off, but now this. Seems people are determined to destroy Ireland’s neutrality.

With the anti boycott laws in USA, this could potentially cause serious blow back on Irish jobs.

Also the EU sets Irish trade rules, which will also could cause problems for Ireland at EU level.

This move is idiotic.

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Fianna Fáil to support trade ban with lands held by Israel, but embassy calls it 'immoral'

Fianna Fáil to support trade ban with lands held by Israel, but embassy calls it 'immoral'

The Embassy of Israel said the boycott will not facilitate Ireland’s role or influence in the Middle East.

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    Favourite Gerard Smith
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    Jul 3rd 2018, 11:41 PM

    @Andrea Brown: We are not a neultral country as has been said on here many times. We are a non aligned country. There is a huge legal difference. People bandy around the term neutral but have no clue what it actually means. Switzerland is a Neutral country. Ireland is not. As regards trade rules and anti boycott laws. They may legally only apply to the state of Israel. This act is about goods originating in areas which may technically not be defined as part of Israel so there may not be an issue with this in terms of EU law or US anti boycott laws. It may well depend on the text of the act and on the text of the specific EU and US laws regarding trade. Your point regarding Russia is correct. We should never have sent home diplomatic personnel over an incident that still has not been definitively proven as to who did what (and appears to have quickly departed mainstream media).

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    Favourite Dumb as a Rock Mika
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    Jul 4th 2018, 12:08 AM

    @Gerard Smith: US federal law is very clear. It is illegal for any American company(at home or abroad) or any company resident in the US to take part in a boycott of Israel. The law is the Export Administration Act. It is also an Act which the Americans take extremely seriously. They have attempted to make it even stricter only this year….

    On the EU law side…As we are part of a customs union, we have no right to decide unilaterally restrictions on trade. Any Irish law will not stand up in the ECJ…Any restriction on Israel must be done at a central level in Europe…

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    Favourite Gerard Smith
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    Jul 4th 2018, 12:17 AM

    @Dumb as a Rock Mika: read again. The areas we are discussing are not technically part of Israel and therefore may not be covered by the legislation.

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    Favourite Dumb as a Rock Mika
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    Jul 4th 2018, 12:50 AM

    @Gerard Smith: You need to read the law. The US law does not differentiate between Israel or the OT. Any boycott from a government level aimed at Israel comes under the law. It is completely irrelevant that it is directed at the OT. All that matters is that the boycott has the aim to change Israeli policy.

    The EU law is straight forward too. Ireland can’t unilaterally write a law restricting trade from any part of the world. US, China, Israel, Occuplied Territories, Brazil,..anywhere. Only the EU has the power to write laws on trade.

    No ifs, no maybes, nothing…

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    Favourite Michael farrelly
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    Jul 4th 2018, 1:23 AM

    @Andrea Brown: yeah neutral, yeah sit on the fence and ignore murder of children. Where is your conscience ?

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    Favourite Mark McDermott
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    Jul 4th 2018, 11:28 AM

    @Andrea Brown: Just because we are neutral when it comes to wars does not make us neutral on world issues, clearly you know this fact but choose to ignore it.

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