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Comment #5204298 by Cannijuana Seeds

Cannijuana Seeds Jun 24th 2016, 5:24 AM #

Flock me I didn’t think it would actually happen..

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BREXIT: The UK has voted to leave the European Union

BREXIT: The UK has voted to leave the European Union

The fallout of the UK decision has been massive.

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    Favourite Jennie
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:09 AM

    I wonder if they’ll do what Ireland did a few years back and revote because they didn’t get the answer they were expecting! Very close though… 51%

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    Favourite Damocles
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:12 AM

    There’ll be no revote.

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    Favourite James Darcy
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:13 AM

    They’re idiots! They have effectively voted To tank their economy over night and break up their “empire”.

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    Favourite Donal O'Brien
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:20 AM

    What a bunch of absolute morons.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:20 AM

    Never mind their economy our probably too

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    Favourite Darren Norris
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:23 AM

    Scotland already calling for a vote to go

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    Favourite James Darcy
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:26 AM

    I hope every region of Britain gets a vote to leave – it’s only fair. Hypocrites telling Scotland they were better together and taking them through this.

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    Favourite Seán Domhnall O'Sullivan
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:29 AM

    52%. Four point majority whatever you feel.

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    Favourite Tariq ibn Ziyad
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:30 AM

    Europhiles don’t like democracy.

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    Favourite James Darcy
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:31 AM

    It’s 4 point majority but that’s only a 2 % swing.

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    Favourite Bren MC
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:34 AM

    Wow

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    Favourite John O'Neill
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:36 AM

    Interesting new political landscape this morning. Now we will see just how “Great” Britain is.
    It is no longer a United Kingdom though, with Scotland and Northern Ireland voting strongly to remain in the EU.
    Britain is deluding itself if it thinks that the EU can’t survive without it and will collapse. It is Britain that will collapse and implode. The fall in the value of sterling to 1980s levels is not a temporary glitch. International corporations will downgrade their UK based bases dramatically as they no longer will have an open conduit to Europe.
    Britain will now stand,(or fall) alone…

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    Favourite Roger Clarke
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:37 AM

    And if the Scots leave, bang goes London’s oil revenues.

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    Favourite Ben Gunn
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:43 AM

    If Scotland leave the Union then Britain as a political entity will cease to exist.

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    Favourite Patrick Corr
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    Jun 24th 2016, 6:56 AM

    @james. The Empire is long gone. It’s a very brave move. But it’s a waiting game now.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:10 AM

    It would be nice to see the TNCs coming to Ireland maybe?

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    Favourite Robert Preston
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:12 AM

    With the price of oil at rock bottom makes no difference .

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    Favourite ciaran
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:15 AM

    lol, the sky is still there, so some money men get the jitters, it will sort itself out, every country directly involved has enough well paid advisors to negociate a newer better relationship with England.
    stop worrying it is never as bad as you think

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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:20 AM

    Robert, oil prices are temporary what will they be like in 5 years?

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    Favourite Obi Wan
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:24 AM

    Exactly Ciaran, money is not everything, you can not put a price on freedom.

    Hopefully other countries vote out of this European charade and we can all get back to being ourselves again.

    You do not need to give up sovereignty of your country just to trade with others.

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    Favourite Kevin Coady
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:35 AM

    So really what we’re seeing is the rise of English nationalism. This wasn’t brexit but England becoming a nation state on its own.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:36 AM

    Well said Ciaran ,so much scaremongering going on its pathetic

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    Favourite Wally Mooney
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:37 AM

    The gnashing of neoliberal teeth is a delightful sound. Solidarity with the British working class who have rejected the E.U of the 1%.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:37 AM

    it’s hard for me to say but “respect” England, Europe just got told “your not all that”

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    Favourite Neil Mcdonough
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:41 AM

    The state we’re in here in Ireland Obi, is us just being ourselves. No-one elses fault. But keep blaming others if you don’t want change.

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    Favourite Neil Mcdonough
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:43 AM

    Yeah Wally, watch England become a workers paradise now…

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    Favourite Pádraig Ó Raghaill
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:52 AM

    Well, my UK supplied stock just got cheaper and fewer Brits swallowing vowels in the Sunny Spots temporarily one might say. Small wins while the dust settles and the hard work begins. That is of course if Dodgy Dave does not enable an ‘extenuated circumstances clause.’

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    Favourite Deborah Behan
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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:52 AM

    The older generation have almighty fugged the next generation mightly. We will recover a lot quicker than Britain. That’s if Britain is still Britain because I’d now put money on Scotland leaving. FUBAR.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:55 AM

    Deborah please proceed to you safe space where you will find fluffy teddy bears and calming music

    The UK has left the building…mike drop!!!

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    Jun 24th 2016, 7:57 AM

    @Neil

    A lot of “the state we’re in here” could be attributed to these un-elected clowns in Brussels and their role in our banking crises and also the fact that we could not devalue our currency because we did not control it.

    But hey, why let that stand in the way of your self pity.

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    Favourite Jimmyjoe Wallace
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:05 AM

    Wally, the British working class might now see the erosion of the many workers rights brought in by the EU, how can you not see that this represents a swing to the right?

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    Favourite Ron Spaghettini
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:06 AM

    Great. I can buy slick motor cars for a lot less. I will dump my Irish driving license and go for a UK license. Cheap insurance , cheap road tax and an MOT instead of the bent NCT. Just need an address in the UK. Grand stuff this.

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    Favourite Sean Baylon
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:06 AM

    I think that gives Ireland a chance to become a financial gateway into the EU but Dublin would have to be willing to build highrises to attract some of these mega corps.. we may not have the infrastructure to pull it off.. as Obama said, he wont be scurrying to make trade agreements with 60 million over 450 million..

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:10 AM

    Ha ha , they should do what Ireland did , apologize to the eu dictators , make the ppl vote again .. lol

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    Favourite James O Brien
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:13 AM

    Yeah, workers are completely unprotected under a Tory govt now. However it won’t affect the working class who don’t work Jimmyjoe!

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    Favourite Old Gabby Johnson
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:14 AM

    Wally – that ‘working class’ you champion voted along racist lines – too many foreigns – they didn’t do it to achieve some socialist utopia. The fact that you align yourselves with UKIP and the far right says much about your ilk and warped political positioning.

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    Favourite Wally Mooney
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:15 AM

    No Neil. Rejection of the E.U. is not enough. The British working class will also have to fight their domestic capitalist class which exploits them and drives ever greater numbers into poverty to enrich the elite.

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    Favourite Old Gabby Johnson
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:16 AM

    - its a vote for the far right not a vote for the left… unless of course ‘The Sun’ has turned bolshevik.

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    Favourite Angela O'regan
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:16 AM

    No,that won’t happen.

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    Favourite Pádraig Ó Raghaill
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:16 AM

    A strong leader could pull that off @ Sean, however, we don’t have a scintilla of a strong leader.

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    Favourite Stephen Devlin
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:16 AM

    Referendum is just an opinion poll, non legally binding, parliament has to vote to leave and then the house of lords. Either can reject the notion to leave the EU

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    Favourite Tony Canning
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:19 AM

    Looks like Cameron is about to resign….

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    Favourite Neil Mcdonough
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:21 AM

    No Obi, the state we’re in is down to how we run this country. Notice that well run states didn’t have a banking crisis did you? The self-pity is entirely yours.

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    Favourite Kevin Slater
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:25 AM

    It’s not about trade it’s a more subtle agenda. The European experiment is about pan-world integration of cultures, the breaking down of national sovereignty and building an homogenous featureless landscape policed by political correctness

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    Favourite Obi Wan
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:25 AM

    Those well run states were not forced to bail out Europes banks at the cost of their tax payers Neil.

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    Favourite Mick Heery
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:36 AM

    just means that now UK citizens can wield power in their vote unlike the system we have of un-elected officials dictating our monetary/social policy

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:37 AM

    And they’ll have to do that now Wally without the backing of French socialists to say the least and their other European colleagues.

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    Favourite Tom Malone
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:38 AM

    A second poll would be to treat the public with disdain. That’s not the British way.

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    Favourite Ó Connmhaigh
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:38 AM

    The pound is already recovering against the dollar and euro.
    The scaremongering was just that – scaremongering.
    Long live democracy

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:41 AM

    how come all you right wingers have suddenly become so concerned about workers rights?ha ha

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    Favourite John Moylan
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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:45 AM

    @Ron. Yeah, right, dream on. Nothing stopping you doing that last week. Or last month.or last year even. Except of course the Finance Act 1997. Trot along and have a read and get back to us …..

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:46 AM

    Freedom. LOL.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:48 AM

    @oconnmhaigh – have a look at the irish stock market.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:52 AM

    Yep, let’s get back to a fragmented, tribal Europe with generational wars. That’ll be great for all of us. Boris & Trump leading the ‘free’ world. When’s that Mars mission leaving?

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:54 AM

    “HER MAJESTY’S UNITED KINGDOM OF ENGLAND & WALES” ….doesn’t have the same ring to it as “HER MAJESTY’S UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & NORTHERN IRELAND”, does it??

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    Jun 24th 2016, 8:57 AM

    It’s early days to be saying “I told you so” wrt the drop in sterling value. You can’t ignore that it’s likely to stay down though. FTSE dropped by 8% on opening. Double digit drop in share price for some banks. These things can’t be ignored. It’ll take a while to see what the true implications are for the UK economy and society whether good or bad.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 9:00 AM

    Wally

    The British working just did an impression of turkeys voting for Christmas.

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    Favourite Wally Mooney
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    Jun 24th 2016, 9:12 AM

    No Gabby. The Socialist party in Britain (under the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition banner) campaigned for Leave on a socialist basis which has precisely nothing in common with Farage’s jingoistic bile as explained below:

    Dave Nellist, the former Labour MP who now chairs TUSC:

    All the opinion polls are showing what we have experienced on the ground – that what working class Labour voters do will be critical in deciding the outcome of the EU referendum.
    For that reason the government, and the majority of the capitalist establishment in Britain who desperately want a Remain vote, are determined that the voice of Leave should be dominated by pro-market, pro-austerity politicians who will argue their case within the same economic and political framework as the equally big business-dominated ‘Britain Stronger in Europe’ Remain campaign.
    TUSC, on the other hand, would have offered a completely different standpoint and in providing an anti-austerity, anti-racist and socialist alternative to the EU in the traditions of Bob Crow and Tony Benn would have been particularly attractive to Labour voters.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 9:38 AM

    But will they be told like we were ” now be a good little boy & go vote again but this time YES”

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    Jun 24th 2016, 9:55 AM

    It’s a vote for democracy! Not for unelected dictators that run the EU!

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    Jun 24th 2016, 10:04 AM

    A great British socialist Wally Kennedy sums up the Leave vote:

    “This was a vote against the Establishment and austerity.
    The political and Financial elites are ‘shocked’ at the result of the referendum. They would be of course – they are so disconnected from the daily struggles of the people; they just don’t get it.
    Despite the vicious campaigns to present and portray the working class as lumpen bigoted racists (a tiny number are) – all the fear-mongering whipped-up in the media has not had the desired effect of frightening them into submission.
    The threats of impending doom had little or no effect on those who have nothing to lose – including the growing numbers of the middle class who have been driven into the ranks of the workers – and who have had enough of becoming even more insecure and impoverished, while the rich elites got even richer, greedier, more arrogant, unaccountable and detached.
    People have had enough of insecurity, grinding austerity, poverty, cutbacks and lack of public services. They are fed up of debt, of high rents, poor housing, low-pay and zero-hour contracts. (Sometimes those fears and anger have been expressed in backward terms and using racist language).
    They are fed up of being judged and vilified by those who live in relative comfort and who look down their noses and sneer with such contempt. For them hardship is another planet.
    They are fed up of being used as voting fodder by a Labour Party, who for decades have turned their back on basic Labour values of common ownership, accountability and community.
    The process was encapsulated by Blair’s arrogant response when asked about his abandonment of his working class base support – “Who else are they going to vote for?”.
    Well in May 2015 … 4 million voted for UKIP – but 23.3 million did not vote for anyone … a figure greater than the Tory and Labour vote combined.
    I urge every worker to join a Trade Union and organise and hope that Jeremy Corbyn will now correct his mistaken strategy on the referendum and campaign and demand a General Election.
    They must stand on a clear and bold anti-austerity, democratic Public ownership and pro-working class platform.
    I believe that this process will be repeated right across Europe.
    There are dangers if we don’t act decisively – but what a landslide there could be.
    Up the workers – organise everywhere for socialism.”

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    Jun 24th 2016, 10:17 AM

    Perfectly put. With all the legal stuff that has to be sorted out before the brexit can commence the chances are that the eu will go back to them with more concessions and the uk will vote again.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 10:30 AM

    The far right and the left are both happy with the outcome

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    Favourite Tony Skillington
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    Jun 24th 2016, 10:30 AM

    Why are they morons Donal? The people were asked to vote on an issue..gave their decision which didn’t agree with the official wishes and so this has to be respected. I think it’s called democracy. At least it won’t be shoved down their throats twice like our political fk wits did to us.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 12:20 PM

    There you go Merkel with your genocidal immigration policy, and scam refugee(economic chancer) “crisis”. Brits feel like strangers in their own country, this was their last chance to save their own ethnicity and culture, despite the arrogance, self-righteousness, smugness of the media and politicians whom the consequences of mass-immigration will never affect, they told you to Fk off. A movement for European peoples is now firmly underway, liberals your time is at an end.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 12:34 PM

    Which ethnicity and culture would that be, given that the UK is the most cosmopolitan country in Europe if not the World?

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    Jun 24th 2016, 12:57 PM

    @Ben

    Britain was created by a western European native people. They are ethnic British, people like Indians who came to Britain are not ethnically British, they are ethnically Indian.

    But of course this is exactly part of the reason people are voting to get out, because people like you deny them their ethnicity, identity and culture, while you wouldn’t dare say that about any African or arab. The hypocrisy from the multiculturalists is astounding. People have had enough and one consequence of your anti indigenous European, is our asserting our indigenous and ethnic rights.

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    Jun 24th 2016, 2:18 PM

    @stevenocarroll So, integration is unacceptable to you. Are you advocating racial purity? And after that, perhaps eugenics?

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    Jun 24th 2016, 3:01 PM

    @Ben

    Mass-immigration is unacceptable to me. What people in the world would you advocate forcing them to accept other ethnicities from all over the world into their native ethnic territory?…..The Zulus? the Danes? the Basques? Angolans? Nigerians? Tibetans? Japanese? Inuit? Israelis? Palestinians?

    Are you advocating the denial of the right of all peoples to their native exclusive territory, a policy which is defined in the UN charter as genocide?

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    Jun 24th 2016, 3:25 PM

    There were workers rights long before the EU,JimmyJoe

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    Jun 24th 2016, 11:42 PM

    Th

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    Favourite Bridget O'Hanlon
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    Jun 25th 2016, 6:40 AM

    What empire would that be James?

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    Favourite Anthony Byrne
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    Jun 25th 2016, 7:45 AM

    Ill-thought-out.

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