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Comment #5079765 by rory conway

rory conway May 16th 2016, 8:56 AM #

A Health Minister proposes this ? Joke.

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Poll: Would you welcome 'smoking rooms' in Irish bars and restaurants?

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    Favourite John Scott
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    May 16th 2016, 9:22 AM

    Thays right something that was done for all our good an has worked really well. Now this indepent who supports the goverment that the people did not want back in again wants to feck the smoking ban up. He might give out free plastic bags as well. What u think ? ?

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    Favourite NO 2 FF/FG/LAB
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    May 16th 2016, 9:24 AM

    Just waiting on Finian to put the lead back into unleaded petrol & to relax drink driving laws

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    Favourite Teddington
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    May 16th 2016, 10:01 AM

    He should 100% be removed from his ministry for this, a clear indication that he is not fit for purpose as a junior health minister.

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    Favourite bingo
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    May 16th 2016, 10:25 AM

    If its very very well ventilated and it doesn’t affect non-smokers in any way I don’t see a problem with it. The issue really would be staff.

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    Favourite Shawn O'Ceallaghan
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    May 16th 2016, 10:33 AM

    Health minister completely ignores the people who would have to work in those rooms just to be more convienent. Smell a lobby group?

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    May 16th 2016, 11:04 AM

    Bingo why don’t you just step outside or quit the filthy habit, it’s alot easier than creating a national debate & endangering bar staff

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    Favourite helen
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    May 16th 2016, 1:17 PM

    The man clearly hasn’t a clue where we are trying to go as a society ! And he is a government minister

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    Favourite Oliver Bolger
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    May 16th 2016, 2:09 PM

    He’s a joke roll on election

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    Favourite Zayats Liontamer
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    May 16th 2016, 4:00 PM

    Who have asked you to represent the people who would have to work in those rooms? Health minister knows that “danger of passive smoke” is bullshit for the brainwashed idiots. All I can smell right now is another selfish idiot who doesn’t allow a choice for other people. “Live and let to live” says nothing to you, does it?

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    Favourite Zayats Liontamer
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    May 16th 2016, 4:06 PM

    Who has asked you to represent the people who would have to work in those rooms? Health minister knows that all the scary stories about the danger of SHS is bull for brainwashed idiots. All I can smell is anther selfish idiot who doesn’t allow any choice for other people. “Live and let to live” doesn’t say anything to you, does it?

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    Favourite Zayats Liontamer
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    May 16th 2016, 4:14 PM

    @NO 2 FF/FG/LAB, filthy habit is to tell others how they should live and what they should do. Mind your own filthy habits.

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    Favourite Joe
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    May 16th 2016, 4:59 PM
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    Favourite Debbie Pineau
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    May 16th 2016, 5:27 PM

    It’s none of someone else’s business if I smoke a cigarette. It’s nasty and mean to say you would not even allow a separate room for smoking. Why don’t you go outside in the rain and wind, cold, etc. if you don’t like it, you don’t have to stay in the bar if people are allowed to smoke in one area and it makes you boil like a baby. Only Hitler like people and dictatorial type people think they have the right to tell others what to do when it is none of their business and oh my, it smells, oh my it smells. You little crybabies.

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    Favourite Marlene Sobolik
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    May 16th 2016, 5:51 PM

    EVERYONE completely ignore private property rights of an OWNER!

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    Favourite William Boyd
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    May 16th 2016, 6:00 PM

    In my opinion the current social marketing campaigns [about the risk of passive smoking] are deliberately designed to deceive people to make them change behaviour.
    How far do we take this? At what point does it become unacceptable to deliberately present information in a deceptive way to make people change their behaviour? You have to make a decision, and I have made mine:
    Bad science in a good cause is bad science”

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    Favourite William Boyd
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    May 16th 2016, 6:01 PM

    Renowned scientist btw!

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    Favourite William Boyd
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    May 16th 2016, 6:06 PM

    - In the hands of epidemiology, the term “cause,” which is the strongest in scientific parlance, has been reduced to the fostering of superstitious belief (mental dysfunction) and is flung about the medical literature and the media with reckless abandon. The medico-materialist bias and the misguided attempt to coerce societal change on the basis of what is a “statistics madness” can well be characterized as a contemporary form of witchdoctoring. One needs to be reminded regularly that this conduct is being produced by a supposed scientific discipline and, even more absurdly, a supposed health authority. …

    - There are many nonsmokers who will happily sit around an open indoor-fire, or in a restaurant that obviously has an operating kitchen (i.e., cooking-smoke). Although ambient smoke can be quite visible in such settings, it produces no troubling. Yet, let a lit cigarette appear and panic and an eradication procedure ensue, and protected by the superiority syndrome. This reflects the deluded, superstitious, belief that tobacco smoke is somehow very different from these other sources of smoke, magically endowed with all manner of dangerous propensities: In typical settings none of this smoke, from whatever source, poses a danger to a normative range of functioning. These deluded beliefs are the result of a relentless healthist propaganda, i.e., iatrogenic.

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    Favourite William Boyd
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    May 16th 2016, 6:07 PM

    - Researchers still do not know precisely how, or indeed whether, smoking causes cancer or any of the other diseases attributed to it; they have struggled with weird and wonderful experiments to try and produce tumours in laboratory animals and failed dismally. The chemicals in tobacco smoke are similar to those in traffic fumes, except that in traffic fumes the concentration is much higher; cigarette smoke is therefore less toxic than the air we ordinarily breathe.

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    Favourite William Boyd
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    May 16th 2016, 6:11 PM

    ; cigarette smoke is therefore less toxic than the air we ordinarily breathe.?

    Lets hear the pc brigade refute this one?

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    May 16th 2016, 11:07 PM

    Bingo, how are areas going to be checked that the ventilation system is being maintained. One persons view of room ventilation can be totally different to another. All singing and dancing system versus open window and a door to blow out the smoke. It wouldn’t work.

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    Favourite Chris Sorochin
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    May 16th 2016, 11:51 PM

    Societies that are “trying to go somewhere” are usually pretty tedious societies to actually live in.

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