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Comment #4753326 by Fred

Fred Feb 9th 2016, 7:07 AM #

Good luck to the Gardaí. Hopefully they are given the necessary resources to fight these criminals and bring them to justice.

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Gardaí appeal for public's help in tracing second vehicle used in shooting of Eddie Hutch

Gardaí appeal for public's help in tracing second vehicle used in shooting of Eddie Hutch

It’s understood the gunmen made good their escape in either a dark coloured Isuzu 4×4 or a Toyota Landcruiser.

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    Favourite Robert Behan
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:11 AM

    Are you a woman by any chance? What has weight got to do with it?

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    Favourite Josephine Sweeney
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:13 AM

    Yes, plenty

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    Favourite brian boru
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:13 AM

    @fred

    Unfortunately the Guards have spent the last three years fighting against the people they are there to protect with the shocking water meter installation campaign instead of fighting against these kinds of criminals.

    If the guards are short of resources to fight this kind of criminal activities it’s due to the policy choices of Fine Gael and labour that pitted the guards against the nation in the installation of meters and privatisation of our water.

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    Favourite tommy macdonagh
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:14 AM

    according to SF there is nothing happening at all…

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    Favourite tommy macdonagh
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:25 AM

    My posts is exactly on topic, its frighting that in 2016 a political party will deny gangland warfare as the bodies pile up. we are right as concerned citizens to raise our concerns

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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:29 AM

    @ Josephine, please do explain

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    Favourite Josephine Sweeney
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:34 AM

    @ Robert, fat freddie thompson ssssshhhh

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    Mute Shane Cormac O'Duibhleachain
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:49 AM

    Glorifying these goons and creating the idea of a gangland is ridiculous. Unfortunately there are gangs of people that would love you to think they rule an area they don’t.

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    Favourite cholly appleseed
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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:49 AM

    Don’t forget they also want the special criminal court shut

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    Favourite Gus Sheridan
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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:06 AM

    Tommy , we all know you are a desperate FG troll account and not a real person. Would you kindly do us all a favour and quietly feck off, thank you.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:08 AM

    Poor uneducated fool.

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    Favourite Margaret Mcgarry
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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:23 AM

    When you have to resort to name calling your losing the debate . The journal is a debating tool ( I didn’t mean your a tool)

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    Favourite Al-Right
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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:27 AM

    Noirin O’Sullivan needs to resign immediately!!

    How did Garda intelligence drop a massive ball on something like this?

    No intelligence about the Regency attack and 4 criminals get away with killing one of the most obvious targets in this tit for tat war, and they had time to pump bullets into him and get away easily!? In the heart of the city where most Garda resources are based??

    The murder of that drug dealer by armed men with assault rifles is the same as a terrorist attack which happened in Paris… and our Police force can’t protect us from “our own”… how are they supposed to protect us from ISIS attacks?

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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:31 AM

    Unfortunately Margaret you appear to lack the communication skills to put your disjointed weak view across. That’s what you term a lack of education.

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    Favourite Gordon Hughes
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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:39 AM

    Al-Right .. Is there an email address for gangland criminals to subscribe to , Surely they let the gaurds know there every move so they can be caught !!!

    Really are you just a bad troll or just a fool ? What intelligence would be leaked about a shooting ? serioulsy answer me that ?

    Your try compare that shooting to the isis shooting in paris , Funnily enough the french poilce didnt know that was going to happen either ..

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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:48 AM

    Hang on Gordonhughes, a large gathering of known criminals happens at a hotel in the city and NOT ONE undercover Garda is present??

    And then we have the shooting dead of one of the Hutch family members right after it, and not one single Garda car was in the area?

    I’m no police detective but I’d sure as hell have serious criminals under observation at a large gathering…

    4 men armed with assault rifles and guns march in and start spraying people with bullets sounds like something our police force should be able to protect us from no?

    Maybe Gordonhughes you think that garda should sit around in the station eating doughnuts instead of being out on the streets gathering intelligence?

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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:58 AM

    Exactly Fred . I’ve just seen on sky news app , the justice minister is calling for any criminal that feels their life is under threat to contact them to organise protection ??????? . Serve her better to organise more guards to protect the public .

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    Feb 9th 2016, 9:46 AM

    Do you seriously believe that, no guards near the regency hotel and no guards near the hutch stronghold of the North inner city last night. Definite policy of let them shoot each other, going on here

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    Feb 9th 2016, 9:49 AM

    There’s always one fool that brings the water protests into it. Tell me where the protests were on last Friday and last night that tied up garda resources. Get of your high horse

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    Feb 9th 2016, 9:55 AM

    That would be contrary to the entire reason the Gardai were established..

    I’m not much into conspiracy theories to believe that the police force would allow open warfare on the streets…

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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:07 AM

    Tommy going on about sf. Yet it’s fg and labour who are responsible for cutting the resources of the gardai. Wasn’t it only yesterday enda claimed the make of the weapons and what shipment they came in . it’s pathetic playing politics on something that clearly is a feud. Clearly you can’t understand simple English because this is what was said and this is what people read so your lazy attitude is fooling no one.
    What he actually said: “”First of all, if I can just say this, as a little matter which always irks me, there aren’t any ganglands. There is lazy journalism which uses the word gangland as if these communities were lands that gangs inhabited,” Mr Adams said.
    Now intelligent people will understand what he meant. You Tommy obviously not intelligent enough.

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    Favourite Brian Fitzmaurice
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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:12 AM

    Fred, Is that the standard response to people who disagree with SF…… While this new approach of not allowing people to speak against the SF cult is at least better than the old ways of knee capping can I suggest that people be allowed to freely comment as is the case in most democracies

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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:21 AM

    The issue is the allowance of gangland activity to rule over working class areas abandoned by this and previous governments. Gardai resources are limited due to lack of political will over the decades and our lovely social experiment in Austerity. Then you have the simple minded media well most some are doing their job and government politicians and their birdbrained supporters trying to politicise these actions to damage the political rivals during an election campaign. All based on hearsay of course as usual . These killing are tit for tat gangland killings the gardai are doing their best . The media were tipped off about a criminal get together at the Regency Hotel the gardai were unaware of this. The biggest decriers of violence and criminal activity seem to let the door open to crime when it suits them leading to the letting the door been open to interpretation and slurs when it happens. Remember in this era of Irish history this government and the past slashed funding to the gardai cut their wages, demoralised the force by sending them out to clamp down on law abiding population, all the while pointing the finger at others as they continue to pauperise all the services needed to sustain a well functioning society. Enda Kenny and co are delighted with these dublin crime turf killings the papers are full of these stories and none about why they are a complete failure and are destroying the fabric of irish society, They are not serious about anything only getting re relected our media bought and paid for tag along for the ride until eventually they too finally realise they have to live here and deal with the problems we face. FG FF L supporters on here seek to slur Sinn Fein with anything they can dream up in their childlike spoilt minds ,90 years of power does this. They will fight the only thing they see as a challenge to them not criminals not bankers not corporations but Sinn Fein. They are pathetic excuse the lot of them. Give Gardai the resources and they will do their job their job is not to keep these clowns in power. Check pot Sinn Feins policy on policing here and look at the good job that has been done in the north with the PSNI. The murder rate here is far higher. Sinn Fein policy on policing is miles ahead of the cutback and call the population a mob policy down here.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:27 AM

    Just too much to read this early b egan

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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:28 AM

    3 posts for someone to bring water charges into an unrelated post…that had to be a record

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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:31 AM

    Maybe Facbook or Instagram for you so Fred . Its 10.30

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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:41 AM

    Maybe shorter posts from you Egan

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    Favourite The Green Monkey
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    Feb 9th 2016, 10:47 AM

    What do they say about a bad tradesman always blaming his tools. While the Gardaí are in need of extra resources it can’t be the go to excuse every time they mess up. There should have been some level of surveillance at the weigh in. If you have major criminals showing up to an event where it may kick off, if journalists were showing up ‘just in case’ the Gardaí should have been there too………

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    Feb 9th 2016, 11:06 AM

    I agree with you there . They were at the boxing event in November ” just in case” so I agree they should have been at the weigh in however if journalists were indeed tipped off and didn’t tell the guards they should be charged with something

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    Feb 9th 2016, 11:09 AM

    Oh dumb it down by explaining complex issues like your talking to children in 1st class. Thats the establishment way Fred. Sorry lad dont read if u dont like.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 11:13 AM

    We will see how much anti SF the purple are in a few weeks. When SF get nowhere near government, again. His comments yesterday were disgraceful, and they want to abolish the scc. They want to keep these hardcore criminals on the street apparently.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 11:23 AM

    The Gardai have been pressurised into been political enforcers during the mid term era of this country. I think they would much prefer to be an independent body and to concentrate on matters they see as more important. They cant do the roll of Party establishment preservation and deal with crime at the s ame time their hands are full and are also tied by cutbacks. A new era of policing is needed give tge gardai the resources at let them do their work they would much prefer to be chasing down the buckos than standing around protecting water meters for Denis O Brien. We have a good policing base in this country the gardai keep law and order without carrying weapons. They should be completely independent of political policing. If i was a gardai i would vote Sinn Fein. The issues off the past are over Sinn Fein policing policy is up to date and is Independent of politics . A political oversight committee to keep in touch with policing concerns and crime data like in the north is all thats needed. Let the professionals do their job .

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    Feb 9th 2016, 11:42 AM

    Hi Boganity,
    Anything related to policing is unfortunately due to the outgoing governments policies there is a direct link between water and policing. A police force is most effective where it is trusted by the community.

    Current policies regarding Irish water has pitted our police force against communities up and down the length of breath of the country for the last three years. We are now in the last view days of a general election where if we leave the current administration in place all of these policies will continue and worsen. If you don’t believe this google irish water and spend time watching what has taken place between the Gardai and Irish water over the life span of this government on the videos tab.

    Personally for me there is no other matter come election day then what has taken place with Irish water policies.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 12:34 PM

    Hey Fred, twud b more in yer line to listen to what yer leader is saying, Tommy did, and Adams says there is no Gangland, God knows where all the rent money he got for years is gone, but what Gerry says is gospel , so don’t be snotty , take it up with your leader.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 12:58 PM

    Tommy the mouth macdonagh

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    Feb 9th 2016, 3:10 PM

    @Fred. Would you mind removing your image of the National Flag from your avatar please. Nothing against you, but it’s disrespectful to the Flag. Thanks.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 3:17 PM

    Oh, could you please send me directions to gang land Dublin, I can’t find it on Google maps.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 3:19 PM

    Shane, it suits the “Tit & Bum” Rags and their so-called ‘Crime Correspondents’ – nothing more.

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    Favourite AJ McLaughlin
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    Feb 9th 2016, 3:38 PM

    Would these be the same resources that she promised to find Garda Adrian O’Donoghue’s killers and bring them to justice? Pure shameless electioneering!

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    Feb 9th 2016, 3:55 PM

    Only in Ireland protection for criminals and they stopped the armed escorts for cash vans were decent people are under treat while doing a days work .

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    Favourite brian boru
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    Feb 9th 2016, 4:04 PM

    Your calling the head of the Guards to resign is the wrong person to resign @ al- right

    This escalation of violence throughout the suburbs of Dublin ( called gangland by those who don’t know the layout of the capital city ) is a direct result of policies undertaken by this administration,

    In a Democracy we get to choose who we want to lead the policy decisions and at each election clearly someone needs to go but I suggest it the minister for Justice and her predecessor Mr Shatteror who have allowed the problem escalate to this level. Thankfully we the people have the ability to make this change in the next few weeks…..

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    Feb 9th 2016, 6:24 PM

    Who appointed her ?

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    Favourite Deborah Behan
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    Feb 9th 2016, 6:45 PM

    What about all the robberies that have been taking place? Where is the task force for that?

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    Favourite Bobby Phelan
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    Feb 9th 2016, 6:52 PM

    There’s always guards at iw protesting events there’s pictures on line showing up to 30guards protecting dob iw installations from peaceful protesters I recon garda commissioner has got that wrong they even have detectives watching protesters in my eyes thats a waste of resources they could be out keeping an eye on those so called gangsters..

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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:01 PM

    @Angela Gaffney, we should never have paid for armed state-funded escorts for private company cash vans.

    See how they thank us?

    Let Banks pay for themselves for a change?

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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:19 PM

    They are not the first ones to want the SCC shut down. Don’t forget. Many more before them.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 7:29 PM

    The garda commissioner is being economical with the truth. The gardai are not stupid. Of course there was intelligence about the event but for some reason they chose not to have a presence there. Maybe they had an idea they would be outgunned and wanted to avoid a bloodbath.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:54 PM

    Totally agree. The first job the new government should do is fire her. She has some balls saying she can’t have gardai present at every situation. This was’nt just any situation. She has no problem having them present at water meter installations, abusing peaceful protesters, who have a legitimate reason to be there.

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    Feb 9th 2016, 8:58 PM

    Garda Commissioner: ‘We can’t go to every single event just because criminals may be there’???

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    Feb 9th 2016, 9:08 PM

    Garda Commissioner: ‘We can’t go to every single event just because criminals may be there’???
    Then she best rapidly focus her resources on getting rid of the criminals
    (and making Ireland a country with minimal crime)
    instead of using them playing bodyguard for Shell and
    wasting time/money pursuing/prosecuting decent people for farcical “offences”

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    Feb 9th 2016, 9:19 PM

    Garda Commissioner: ‘We can’t go to every single event just because criminals may be there’???
    Well don’t expect many people to bring their families there, if their safety can’t be guaranteed.
    And never mind your “That would be letting the terrorist win BS”
    Most of these guys have regular bios in national media.
    We’re an Island for God Sake.
    In the middle of a stormy freezing sea.

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    Feb 10th 2016, 9:50 AM

    the Gardaí are appealing for a member of the public to put their neck in a noose (more or less)

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    Feb 10th 2016, 10:05 AM

    @ TheBull

    the IRA murdered garda jerry mccabe

    SF call it “manslaughter”

    the witnesses were intimidated

    intimidating a jury is impossible in the SCC

    that’s why SF and their friends in the IRA want it gone

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    Feb 10th 2016, 8:28 PM

    @ angela gaffney

    your comment reminds me of Garda Jerry McCabe

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