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Comment #5425908 by Alan Kelly's Ego

Alan Kelly's Ego Sep 3rd 2016, 6:40 PM #

No getting away from the fact that this was an act of pure evil

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'How can so much goodness be destroyed?': Hundreds of mourners attend Hawe family funeral

'How can so much goodness be destroyed?': Hundreds of mourners attend Hawe family funeral

The bodies of the five family members were found in their home on Monday.

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    Favourite Colin Moran
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 6:45 PM

    Or, the act of someone with a severe mental condition, however temporary, that cause his world and reality to shatter into some horrendous delusional beliefs.

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    Favourite Raymond Candon
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 6:46 PM

    May they all rest in peace. The government needs to wake up. We need more support for people. For too long families and communities have dealt with this.

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    Favourite Daisy Chainsaw
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 6:52 PM

    Pity Alan Hawe didn’t speak to his good friend the priest who could have offered some help and guidance, rather than murdering his family.

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    Favourite Kerry Blake
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 7:00 PM

    Daisy I suspect he was in such a dark place that such an act was probably beyond him. I hope all the family are at peace. RIP

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    Favourite Blind Faith
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 7:21 PM

    Just because he knew them it doesn’t also make him a victim. If some nut job had broken into the house and butchered this mother and children in the same grotesque manner, the whole country would be in turmoil until the murderer was apprehended and behind bars. He broke one of the most important bonds of trust any husband/father could have . . To protect his family from such dangers.

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    Favourite Kerry Blake
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 7:27 PM

    Blind I suspect he was so mentally ill he thought he was protecting his family. Hard to get your mind around that but to be honest that probably is the reason he killed his family…

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    Favourite Donnacha Bhoicaire
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 7:37 PM

    Coward

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    Favourite Blind Faith
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 7:51 PM

    Hiya Kerry, do we all not have various degrees of mental health issues with which we have to learn to live/cope with? . . He crossed that line of no return & he didn’t have to do what he did . . there were so many other options available to him.

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    Favourite Sinead Hanley
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 7:53 PM

    It’s domestic violence Kerry.. He is not some doting dad who wanted to protect his family.. If that was the case he would have picked an easier and less violent way for his wife and kids to die..

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    Favourite Kerry Blake
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 8:03 PM

    Sinead he was mentally ill sadly he took the wrong option. I’d not call this domestic violence to be honest as he was in a very dark place and sadly took the wrong option.

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    Favourite Yvonne Brockett
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 8:12 PM

    Dreadful comment.

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    Favourite Angela Twohig
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 8:40 PM

    I agree…he is getting all of the attention…he was a murderer…this was domestic violence and yet again it’s been excused….lots of pillars of communities are very different behind closed doors…

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    Favourite Suzie Sunshine
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:01 PM

    Kerry , was there a history of mental illness?

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    Favourite Alison O' Meara
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:02 PM

    Wrong option?????

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    Favourite Kerry Blake
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:07 PM

    Yes Alison because he was in a very dark place and didn’t look of help so yes the wrong option…

    Suzie no idea to be honest but I’d guess someone deciding to kill their own family to protect them can be classed as mentally ill?

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    Favourite Suzie Sunshine
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:14 PM

    Kerry , we can’t just put every murder down to mental illnesses if there was a history of mental illness with him then fair enough but if he was an angry violent man with a history of domestic violence .. then I wouldn’t be so quick to blame mental health on this murder .hopefully time will tell ..

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    Favourite Peggy Graham
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:14 PM

    How can you support someone if there is no indication of a problem

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    Favourite Sean
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:14 PM

    Anybody who kills anybody has some kind of mental condition that the rest of us don’t have. Why he deserves a pass because it was his family be brutally murdered is beyond me.

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    Favourite Karol Doran
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:15 PM

    Who said he was trying to protect them? You’re talking utter shite.

    Who’s to say this wasn’t a crime of passion and jealousy? His wife could easily have been leaving him for whatever reason and he simply couldn’t stand for it.

    No one knows why he did what he did, but to just let him off because he choose the “wrong option” is beyond ridiculous.

    He’s a murdering c@nt. He stabbed and hacked his own 3 boys to death ffs

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    Favourite Chris Kirk
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:25 PM

    A report in todays Irish Times said that the family were previously on a week long camping trip together, God only knows what that brought on. Is it possible that Alan Hawe could plot the murder of his entire family and then hang himself as a final act to make it look like he was suicidal. Or was it a family quarrel thet went so horribly wrong that he battered his wifes head. We will probably never know, except for the notes which seem to suggest that he was not completely out of his mind, it was a calculated act.

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    Favourite Polly Dolan
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:35 PM

    May the four of them rest in peace.

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    Favourite Alison O' Meara
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:36 PM

    St Patrick’s Mental Health Service just shared a Facebook post entitled ‘society must stop attributing familicide to mental health factors alone, and recognise it as unacceptable child murder’ ….

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    Favourite Mike O Connor
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:41 PM

    That is a disgusting comment. You should be ashamed of yourself. #thinkb4utype

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    Favourite windbag
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:48 PM

    He should not have been buried with the Family he should have been put in an unmarked grave somewhere…… Absolute Evil Bastar

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    Favourite Colm Moran
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:52 PM

    May Clodagh and her 3 sons rest in peace

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    Favourite Jimmy Burn
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 10:11 PM

    @Kerry,protecting his family…..nonsense,its usual in cases like this that the abused has decided to leave and take the kids,abuser cant take it and murders everybody.

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    Favourite Sinead Hanley
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 10:14 PM

    Kerry. I think you are being far too kind to this man. There are respectable guys with good jobs kicking the shite out of their wives tonight. Are they suffering from mental illness too?

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    Favourite Karol Doran
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 10:15 PM

    He did the exact opposite of protecting his family.

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    Favourite Patrick J Mc Mullin
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 10:19 PM

    I don’t think it’s for any of us to comment the families obviously United in grief. And therefore we should possibly on this occasion leave the comments section empty .

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    Favourite Denise Daly
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    Sep 3rd 2016, 11:26 PM

    Yes they were Karol. They were so deluded in panic that they didn’t have any connection with normal life. We can never understand that mindset but yes these people were definitely ill and struggling terribly.

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    Favourite Lorna Murphy
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    Sep 4th 2016, 12:34 AM

    Kerry Blake . Give it a rest . What if it was your family . Shut up

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    Favourite Anne T Clarke
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    Sep 4th 2016, 8:42 AM

    Kerry this domestic violence. Many upstanding people of the community abuse their wives either psychological, mentally, sexually or physically. It’s because their upstanding members of the community they find it hard to come forward and get help. As someone who works in a domestic violence abuse service I encounter this on a daily basis. Many disclosing that their family have no idea what’s going. Women told “you’ll disappear and no one will fund you”. Children also witnessing abuse. This country needs to support services that help to keep victims safe. We have seen a huge rise in calls to our helpline over the last week. This story is so tragic and no one will even know what happened. However we can try to raise awareness to encourage women and men to come forward and get help before it ends up with five coffins outside a church.

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    Favourite Karol Doran
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    Sep 4th 2016, 10:03 AM

    Denise,

    You’re missing my point. Of course all those deranged f@ucks are mentally ill. But that doesn’t excuse them in anyway of their crimes.

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    Favourite LogicalSarah
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    Sep 4th 2016, 12:57 PM

    Oh please stop giving this cold blooded murderer excuses for his actions by using mental illness. It’s doesn’t matter what was the reason, there is NO excuse for cold blooded murder!!

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    Sep 4th 2016, 1:47 PM

    We have to comment to clarify our thoughts. It is you who has the problem with the comments not the family who will not be reading them anyway. When something as awful as that happens asking people not to speculate or think or try to learn something even a little is just cruel. Most of the comments on here are not from smug do-gooders and thank goodness.

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    Favourite Deborah Behan
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    Sep 4th 2016, 2:41 PM

    Imagine the rage you would have to feel to kill four people with a knife and hatchet? Never mind your own family. And then put a note on the door! He was more concerned about the person finding his family than his family.

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