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Comment #6665439 by MikejG

MikejG Nov 10th 2017, 7:06 AM #

There are no young people left in rural Ireland. Trade jobs are minimal and the large mncs jobs go to the big cities. I feel the only only solution is a solid broadband infasturture. Sustainably growth in rural Ireland is going to be able key skill enabling the local economy

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    Favourite Ranty McCrank
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    Nov 10th 2017, 7:13 AM

    @MikejG: can you explain how an increase from 20Mb/S to 100Mb/s download speed will make rural towns viable? Unless 4K movie streaming is required for viability I don’t see how high speed broadband will help at all.

    What I think will make small towns viable is local innovation and freedom from the mindset that someone else will give me a job. Set up that engineering company, furniture workshop, quality artisan food company, software company in your local area. As a nation we have poor confidence in our own potential and need to question thinks a lot more.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 7:14 AM

    @MikejG: … also can you explain what you mean by sustainable growth? I hear this vague term used quite a lot.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 7:31 AM

    @MikejG: So I’m n the tech industry but live in SF. I see that the work place within tech is moving remotely. I work from home most of the time. I actually agree with you, of course towns need furniture stores, food stores etc. But who’s gonna buy the stuff? In my opinion an easy solution is ppl setting up their own internet businesses from home. The amount of Irish I talk to here talk about barriers and their mostly from the West of Ireland

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    Nov 10th 2017, 7:37 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: I guess in my eyes sustainable growth is what you talk about. High paying jobs supporting the local economy. The counter to this is a road being built in short period. construction workers supporting a local economy but when they are done they disappear and a town suffers

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    Favourite Cian Buckley
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    Nov 10th 2017, 8:49 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: I’m a software engineer. At least in my case I cannot work without high speed internet. Many times I have to download massive containers of potentially 1gb or more. Slow internet may mean I’m waiting hours instead of a minute. Not to mention the regular video conferences/meetings and how dodgy they can be on even extremely fast internet.

    And come on, us rural folk need Netflix too!

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    Nov 10th 2017, 8:54 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: I’m in rural Ireland. My broadband speed is 1.3MB download, 0.4MB upload and that’s best, often worse. I can’t even use Skype. Communications are essential for working. Upgrading to even 50MB would be a huge improvement.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 9:20 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: Higher broadband speeds and reliable services are vital to attract investment and jobs into rural Ireland. Businesses are already moving out of villages to set up in urban areas closer to services and transport hubs.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 9:27 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: During the recent storm we lost our telephone landline and Internet for five days until Eir came out to fix the problem caused by a fallen tree cutting through the phone line. Our electricity was also off for nearly twenty four hours. Can someone please tell me who in their right mind would want to come to rural Ireland to set up a business given the uncertainties of communication services which we all depend upon.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 9:31 AM

    @MikejG: In case you didn’t realise it, the West of Ireland starts at the M50, Irelands biggest car-park.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 9:42 AM

    @Jane Alford: most rural towns have eircom speeds of 20-24 Mb/s download which is more than sufficient for everything. GB of files come down rapid at this speed (3MB/Sec). That’s 300 secs for 1 GB. The bogs of Connemara would struggle as it is extremely expensive to optical cable every tiny side road.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 9:51 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: Where I live (25 miles from Dublin city centre) the telephone service was so bad that it was impossible to have a normal conversation on it without shouting. Talking to Eircom was a waste of time because someone would come out and “adjust” the line, but it would continue to be the same afterward. The simple reality is that we were all several miles further over the limits of the local exchanges abilities. Eircom simply refused to do anything about it, so now everyone has stopped having a landline and have switched to mobiles. However the signal is poor enough and it shows up especially bad for downloading or uploading data. Depending on the weather (literally) the signal can drop down to a point where you can’t even open a webpage. After the storm, we too were without any service for 3 days afterwards. Local businesses have given up on the usual providers and now subscribe to satellite service at very high priced service rates. And they call this modern Ireland!! It’s a joke. Once you pass the M50, Utilities and Services are a shameful disgrace. All my siblings emigrated. I stayed because of some misplaced loyalty to this country. The fool I was.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 10:04 AM

    @Cian Buckley: I lived with 24Mb broadband in rural town for 8 years then moved to the countryside where it went down to 15Mb. Absolutely no problem with HD Netflix or Skype/Whatsapp etc with the lower speed which I thought might be an issue. Citing one off storm damage for some days to telecoms infrastructure as other have posted is not a reason our towns are suffering economically over the last 10 years.

    I just don’t see optical internet as the golden road to economic success. If Ballyhaunis in County Mayo had 1Gb internet (which the centre will be getting) it would not make it an overnight success economically. While important I think ultra high speed internet is overrated and there are many other factors to a regions economy. Small retail (which many towns are dangerously over reliant on) needs state financial incentives to compete with the global superpower eg. Amazon and Tesco who buy in monster bulk and sell to the public at the same price that the local shop buys wholesale.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 11:23 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: I live in Barcelona city but our street for whatever reason does not have fiber broadband. While the likes of Netflix is grand, the speed prevents me from working from home

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    Nov 10th 2017, 11:31 AM

    @Ranty McCrank: dunno dude, high speed Internet is not the only problem rural places have but if people can work remotely it would do nothing but good to rural areas.

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