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Comment #4730018 by Dylan

Dylan Feb 3rd 2016, 10:09 AM #

If you choose not to vote you’re part of the problem.

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    Favourite Kirsha Sova
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:17 AM

    I voted labour last time ,and ff the time before ,so which is worse not voting or voting for another shower of traitors.

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    Favourite Niall Waters
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:20 AM

    In your case, I’d make an exception and say don’t vote.

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    Favourite Dylan
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:29 AM

    Labour received huge levels of support in the last election, before that so did FF. By your logic then most of the country shouldn’t vote again. Its that kind of thinking that leads to people becoming disillusioned with the political process and we just end up getting more of the same.

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    Favourite Freebetcitydcom Mike
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:31 AM

    The young fine gael worms are busy in the party dungeon switching ips and voting for FG on polls, judging by the above..

    Gimps.

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    Favourite United Irishmen
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:33 AM

    Freebetcitydcom Mike. FG are the most popular party at the moment at 30%. You think they need people to manipulate their numbers?

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    Favourite David Murphey
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:34 AM

    I encourage everyone to vote.

    Not just 1 and 2. Use most of your preferences because every single vote is important. In the last local elections, one seat was decided by 70 votes (maybe it was less, I don’t remember exactly).

    Voting is your only way of having any influence in the make up of the government.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:36 AM

    What if you trust none of them, Dylan?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:37 AM

    @ united irishmen: Even if you believe the polls, its 30% of likely voters on polling day, weighted by demographic. Not the same as people voting on an internet news site.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:39 AM

    I’m in the Roscommon/Galway constituency, a 3 seater, no candidate is from my side of the constituency, each party has only one candidate each and I’ve never heard of any of them except one. So tell me do you really think my vote counts out here?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:40 AM

    If journal polls were real life, the only option would be a FG/SF government. Thankfully, they are terribly inaccurate.

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    Favourite Tom Kelly
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:56 AM

    At 10:55 SF 22%
    FG 23%

    lol, there is the proof that this is the Sinn Fein press office.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:59 AM

    Freebet, I’m always amazed the way very few supporters of The looney left comment here before midday???

    Are they all in bed?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:00 AM

    @Eoin, The same with West Cavan, no candidates and whats the point in voting for a Sligo, Leitrim or Donegal rep.

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    Favourite Richard Cynical
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:03 AM

    if you want change stop voting for the same old party’s ff fg lb, change starts with us

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    Favourite Dalian Martin
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:09 AM

    Definitely worth reading through this link and others [h**p://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/noel-whelan-fine-gael-s-new-mantra-is-built-on-a-false-premise-1.2497088] “The Irish economy is unique in that it’s part of the euro zone but earns most of its living from the sterling zone and the dollar zone. We are currently blessed with favourable exchange rates with both these currencies.

    We are also fortunate to be recovering at a time of historically low oil prices and minuscule interest rates. In addition, [***]we have had a sudden surge of tax earnings from foreign multinationals.[***]”

    Yet they will continue to collectively delude themselves with self-serving dishonesty that it was their Troika Stockholm Syndromed Pro-Austerity Groupthink policies that is solely responsible for this
    -All because they’re self-conscious of the possibility that they might of been wrong this entire time
    (which they Are mind you since they followed an austerity plan heavily influenced by a flawed & now debunked study: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2013/06/06/how-case-austerity-has-crumbled/ and h**ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyvm8ECDEnM .That’s right folks,an entire continent as been subjected to Unnecessarily High levels of austerity because of an Arithmetic Mistake and an Error in a Spreadsheet).

    Anybody who INVESTS TIME in checking things out for themselves(and doing so in an open-minded and objective way as possible and cross-referencing with multiple sources BEFORE jumping to conclusions and publicly proclaiming as much amongst one’s peers) would NOT vote for Fine Gael/Labour
    (unless of course they’re happy to prostitute this nation for the sake of maintaining their materialistic lifestyle and not caring what EXCHANGE they actually get for their Taxes so long as their own earnings are maximised).

    It’s an unfortunate fact that, up to now, a majority of people do Not do this during their daily lives….not all opinions or votes are made equally.To that effect you can see the regular *Substantiated* debates and discussions that go on here, and on politics.ie . (Also,have a read of Luke Ming Flanagans excellent analysis of nearly everything FG/Lab have done,or more specifically,haven’t fufilled ([ h**ps://www.facebook.com/Lukemingflanagan/photos/a.185341864876471.45706.182354901841834/895846813825969/?type=3&theater ])
    Or how the Social Democrats -who have some of the most principled and capable people,with policies to go with it- are apparently only on 2%.

    That being said Sinn Féin(Along with the Likes of Soc-Dems/Independents/Others @2nd) have the most support from under people under 50 [h**p://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/poll] i.e people who by their own comparative admissions are Generally much more Tech Savy and thus check things out for themselves (e.g TTIP) -as well as being less inclined to just Conservatively vote for FG/FF just because they have voted for them all their lives.

    To these ends,here’s what 100 Academics (many of whom are either Economists,Political Scientists,Sociologists Or combination thereof) in Irish universities have to say:
    “In summary, the Irish “recovery” has been partial, unequal and, in many respects, illusory.

    It in no way constitutes a model for Greece or anywhere else to follow.

    Instead, we stand in solidarity with the Greek people as they struggle for genuine economic recovery for all, based on the write-down of illegitimate debt.” >> http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/ireland-and-greece-1.2280724 .

    Imploring people to do the above and checking out info for themselves(in the off-chance they haven’t done so already) -and seeing past the self-serving embellished/ sensationalist headlines- will be The Single Biggest Key during this election.

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    Favourite Dalian Martin
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:12 AM

    TTIP Should be just as big,if not a way bigger, election issue than the likes of Irish Water. If people knew about its very real implications it certainly would be. How an earth can Fine Gael/EPP/Fianna Fáil feverishly back something at the EU Level ,in which what little document information that is available is heavily redacted and can only be viewed by MEPs under extreme security & confidentiality, is ignorance of the highest order.

    It seems they’re only blindly following the Groupthink of their EU Parlimentary parties.
    They can’t defend it and have done their very best to avoid any form of public debate on it -and would be caught out rapid if they did.
    They on the one hand,for example, say they will stand up for rural Ireland while at the same time support TTIP which would decimate our world class agriculture sector upon exposure to the very low standard US Factory Farms.Time to bring it up and stick it to them left,right and centre.
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/38123

    More over, TTIP Should be Spear-Heading the Final Right2Water Rally(there is definitely a lot relevance between the two in terms of Privatisation/Competition challenges/ISDS etc) before the Election if it wants to be the biggest Protest in the history of the state (if R2C doesn’t have plans for this already)
    -It will have the”Iceberg effect” from media exposure as people begin to read up on it for themselves and see through the rest of FG/Lab’s propaganda- and in my view potentially Collapse their support on polling day.
    I also know that there are many others who think as much already.

    In addition please Note Bueno the following
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/public-services-under-attack-through-ttip-and-ceta-atlantic-trade-deals/5483012

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    Favourite Jim Kearney
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:13 AM

    And don’t have the Right to Complain,in my mind.

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    Favourite Chris Kirk
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:48 AM

    It’s a good job elections are not contested on fake Journal polls……

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    Favourite Mike Hall
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:48 AM

    Good posting Dalian :)

    The fact that so few people know about the underlying reality (and we only touch the surface here) – deliberately ignored by mainstream corporate media – is why our democracy fails to represent the interests of ordinary citizens.

    Of course, besides mainstream media exclusion, most people are under severe time pressure in their lives, and have not received much any education about how a country is governed or an economy functions.

    The establishment politicians, and the wealth interests they serve like it that way.

    Nearly every vote for FF, FG, or Lab will be someone voting against their own interests. Only about 10%, if that, of the total electorate can either gain or stay neutral in their living standards in comparision with the rest. (Bearing in mind that all of society usually moves forward slowly over the long run – a fact which is used by establishment parties to pretend progess has occurred.)

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:52 AM

    I do not agree, do not use all the preferences and do not vote all the way down this is cynical and incorrect advice. Any extra votes from your favoured choices will go to the very parties you do NOT want. This is bad advice.

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    Favourite Derek Durkin
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 11:58 AM

    Personally I think the people that vote and legitimize a system that was never designed to benefit them are the problem.

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    Favourite Mike Hall
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 12:07 PM

    Derek

    I agree in principle, but unless we can put together a credible mass boycott, the only hope we have to make some progress toward real democracy is to vote for non mainstream parties or independents who have made some commitment (eg the 1Yi pledge) to significant system change.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 12:07 PM

    Sorry mike, but maybe you’ve been living under a rock for the last few months but I’d be willing to wager anything you like that FG will be the senior party in government in a months time…. And I’m 100% not a FG supporter…

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    Favourite John Kusumi
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 12:33 PM

    In Galway East, I’ll vote for Aengus Melia. He’s been a water charge protester, on the streets with the rest of us. His party is DDI – Direct Democracy Ireland.

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    Favourite North Korean General
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 12:35 PM

    Don’t vote for FF, FG or LAB.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 12:51 PM

    We just have to wait for school to finish for SF vote to jump by 10%

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 12:55 PM

    Dylan I am disillusioned with the political process because of referenda re runs and the obvious lack of democracy in Europe. I’ll still vote though.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 1:09 PM

    @ United Irishman , your a troll and a traitor. Go back under your rock with the rest of the traitors

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    Favourite Bren MC
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 1:14 PM

    Voting in this election is like choosing whether you get hanged , electrocuted or face the firing squad.

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    Favourite proctor
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 1:19 PM

    Looking forward to the abolition of the that horrid USC roll on the election!

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    Favourite Robin Tobin
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 1:39 PM

    Neil I do not trust any of them. Neil look at it this way, what have they done for you. In my case they have fleeced me to nearly loosing my home, while they live off excessive expenses, a big fat salary, free fuels, bins, now water, free travel a big flat tax allowance for their expenses , they pay no tax. What do they do , they look after there own families while loading us with debts and unfair taxes.

    I am voting only for the dail members in my. Area who raised some very serious issues. That is the independents and Finna fail plus sine fein. Imagine Enda Kenny and Joan Burton voted against dealing with the standard variable interest costed above excessive charges on the cost of funds. So the Fine Gael and labour people in Fingal never even turned up to vote. I in turn will now not vote for them

    The Fine Gael Alan Farrell took the time to email me to tell me to go to court over this. I hope they remember those emails which was to vote with their party and for my vote I gave to them which they never get again.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 1:55 PM

    Don’t use most of your preferences, only mark the names you’d want in government.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 1:58 PM

    well said Niall, brilliant reply there, made me laugh too!

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:15 PM

    Is that all youre worried about !?

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    Favourite Paul Corcoran
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:16 PM

    If they’re at 30ish % in recent polls it looks like at 20% here they’re under-represented in this poll.
    The opposite is true of Sinn Fein. They’re at 17% in recent polls but at 24%.
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good rant!!

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    Favourite Seamus Og
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:22 PM

    At 14.21 Sf 24% FG 20%

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:22 PM

    The wretched right

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    Favourite Seamus Og
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:24 PM

    I voted for sf at 2.30 tom because i was out working.

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    Favourite Killian O'Hara
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:43 PM

    Nonsense. The fallacious democratic process here is the problem. The only way to change that is to reject it.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 2:57 PM

    Yes, “United Irishmen” they do. We are looking at it day in and day out across all social media. Just who do you think you’re kidding?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 3:33 PM

    Do NOT give any candidate your preference votes, only vote for your No 1. Do not let the traitor FG/Lab/FF get a single seat through you using sll your preference votes, after all do you really wsnt a bunch of pocket stuffing criminals in for another term ?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 3:39 PM

    I encourage everyone to only vote for the party they want to get in. Personally, I will not give any preference to Fg FF or Labour

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 4:49 PM

    Tom Kelly ,

    As per your statement above -

    Are there nearly 5,000 people working in The SF Press Office ?
    Pray explain to the great unwashed Citizenry – try me ?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 5:54 PM

    @Mike Hall

    Thank you :),same goes to you (particularly in regards to your MMT posts back in the summer on Greece).
    I usually try and refrain from posting on here etc in order to avoid getting caught up in protracted conversations that just end up distracting from more immediate things that have to be done.

    Also @Rashers Thanks for saying “Brilliantly and succinctly put.” in regards to my posts about the EU on this article http://www.thejournal.ie/politics-portugal-election-2408207-Oct2015/
    ( I intended to thank you at the time but I procrastinated and just end up putting it off……..Better late than never :P)

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 6:09 PM

    TTIP’s little known brother is going to be voted on next week in the EU parliament. Tell all MEPs they must stand against the Trade in Services Agreement, or TiSA http://www.economicvoice.com/next-week-controversial-trade-in-services-agreement-to-be-voted-on-in-european-parliament/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 6:21 PM

    @ Proctor,
    Quote:
    “Looking forward to the abolition of the that horrid USC roll on the election!”

    Thought you were voting social democrats? They are against abolishing this. Are you a fg/labour voter masquerading as a social democrats voter like some others on here and giving that party a bad name by your association?

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 6:33 PM

    “Sinn Féin voters are tech savvy”.

    You mean they are sitting at home, ranting in the journal comment sections whilst the rest of the country is out working? Once our young savvy Shinners get educated or qualified enough to earn above a certain taxban, they’ll realise the folly of youth.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 6:34 PM

    That’s awful someone looking forward to the abolition of the USC absolutely terrible that

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 6:42 PM

    Caught you out and you know it. Should have know you were a troll.

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    Favourite Michael McGrath
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    Feb 3rd 2016, 7:05 PM

    Don’t you know that nobody reads long rambling posts!

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 7:32 PM

    @ Eoin Try Smartvote.ie

    It may help.

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 8:02 PM

    Choosing not to vote is anyones right.. I live in an apartment in the centre of Dublin. Not one candidate has ever visited me as they have no interest in ever going to apartment(even though we make up a lot of voters). I have no affiliation to here so why care really, I work a few minutes from work, get paid well so meh I say.. Whoever lowers taxes is what I care about.. Everyone has the pipe dream that the government is going to give us great infrastructure, fix the health system, blah blah blah.. Each government is as bad if not worse than the last so why bother voting for them.. And before people harp on about the independent vote, a few indos arent going to a country run..

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 8:36 PM

    Dalian ,if you are so in tune the Greek approach to politics and economics why don’t you do us all a favour and live there .

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 9:02 PM

    No they’re probably all in work and don’t have time or sanction to use social media unlike some!

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    Feb 3rd 2016, 10:48 PM

    David, agree, but not FF or bags of cats.

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    Feb 4th 2016, 12:16 AM

    Ha! Proctologist blueshirt busted..

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    Feb 4th 2016, 6:44 AM

    And I just voted now. Have a few minutes before I get up and go to work.

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    Feb 4th 2016, 9:27 AM

    Procter it will be just another lie, I just cannot believe the likes of you who will believe this hook, line and sinker. Its not like they have,nt lied before.

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    Feb 4th 2016, 2:43 PM

    Why would you vote for someone you don’t like or want? PR is not about going down the entire ballot paper, its about selecting those whom you would accept. Only establishment parties gain by people going down the ballot paper. Folks only vote for 1 candidate if you only trust or like one. and so on.

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    Feb 4th 2016, 11:39 PM
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    Favourite Dalian Martin
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    Feb 6th 2016, 7:46 PM

    Re long posts: If you can read this article,as well as the posts down to this point,you can read this also.
    Now onto this:
    “You mean they are sitting at home, ranting in the journal comment sections whilst the rest of the country is out working? Once our young savvy Shinners get educated or qualified enough to earn above a certain taxban, they’ll realise the folly of youth.”
    That’s a quite self-righteous and an ignorant lazy blanket sterotype if you don’t mind me saying so.

    Firstly, I didn’t even specifically say ‘Sinn Féin voters are tech savvy’,I said they were the most popular party with people under 50 along with Independents/Others/Social-Democrats group:
    “That being said Sinn Féin(Along with the Likes of Soc-Dems/Independents/Others @2nd) have the most support from under people under 50 [h**p://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/poll] i.e people who by their own comparative admissions are Generally much more Tech Savvy and thus check things out for themselves (e.g TTIP) -as well as being less inclined to just Conservatively vote for FG/FF just because they have voted for them all their lives.”

    All I meant that they were more likely to invest their spare time online using social media etc in the evenings or what have you(btw as you know it only takes a minute to vote on the poll,and I regularly see people use their smart-phones on lunch breaks etc out and about or during work) and thus generally have a more informed opinion e.g implications of TTIP,Lisbon Treaty etc. Even in the Well-Off AB bracket Sinn Féin are on 10%,and I’m willing to wager those within the 10% bracket have invested a good deal time in checking things out for themselves and actively engaging with politics -and I’m also willing to wager would double if more did.

    I stand by my statement that anyone who invests time in checking things out for themselves wouldn’t vote FG/Lab -the debates on here and Other forums still stand regardless of potential individual backgrounds -substantive facts do not cease to exist just because they’re ignored. Also I remember looking at the demographic break down of polls leading up to the 2002 and 2007 elections: the vast majority of the support was split between Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil for the19-24 age group…..is this because of the folly of youth as well? Times have changed,and those having grown up to be the 18-24 bracket of today have had near full access access to the internet and the ability check things -thus generally giving them better Critical Thinking skills by way of ‘conditioned response’,and more informed opinions.

    Secondly in the European elections in 2014(where they fielded a candidate in every constituency),Sinn Féin got 19.5% of the vote,and got elected representatives in Well-Off South Dublin,on both the City and County councils such as Chris Andrews & Fintan Warfield ,well above the headline unemployment rate which means not everyone who votes them is unemployed.
    (P.S The long term unemployment in 2006 as per the CSO was 1.4% which itself is well below the current headline unemployment rate -not all those unemployed are lazy scroungers,many are genuine Diligent people & families who are victims of circumstance and government policy to pay back the bondholders.)

    Furthermore,the polls between November and December 2014 had them between 24% & 26% and roughly at 24% in March 2015 -Again well above the headline unemployment rate.
    In addition do you think at least a portion of those 100 active and retired academics aren’t “educated or qualified enough to earn above a certain taxban”? but are still Highly Critical of the Fine Gael/Labour government?And more likely in that case to support Social Democrats and Sinn Féin?

    In addition Well Read physicist Albert Einstein wrote “Why Socialism” at age 70 for just one example among many -Not everyone is shallow/materialistic and just want to work in a job purely for the money.
    A lot of people do it because they like their work. Many People actually care about the EXCHANGE they get for the taxes they pay -more over when they see it being funneled by the government parties into Cronyism, Quango’s ,odious banking debts, while the likes of our health service is in crisis.

    On that note do you think all the people in Sweden(where there is a genuine Progressive Tax System unlike here http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-the-myth-of-ireland-s-progressive-tax-system-1.2370113) who vote in the Social Democrats are unemployed or on low paid jobs? I’m willing to wager a good portion of whom are in very well paid jobs -but their willing to contribute a bit more to society and play their part for the greater good. Sinn Féin (who only want people earning above 100,000 to pay an extra 7cent on every euro they earn above that) and Social Democrats ethos is that tax money can be used a whole lot better mostly at their current rates.

    More over, Progressive taxation is not only morally right but Socio-Economically:

    Have read of it here(although I have shown some the text so one readily see while casually browsing the comment….if you can read through the article and above posts you can read through this post) http://qz.com/429487/a-new-imf-study-debunks-trickle-down-economics/

    “Adding another nail to the coffin of Reaganomics, a recent study published by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has concluded that, contrary to the principles of “trickle-down” economics, an increase in the income share of the wealthiest people actually leads to a decrease in GDP growth.

    “The benefits do not trickle down,” the authors of the study write, directly contradicting the theory that US president Ronald Reagan popularized in the 1980s. Reagan argued that decreasing the tax burden for the rich–investors, executives, corporations and the like–would not only increase their own income but stimulate broad economic growth as they create opportunities for others’ increased prosperity. This belief has been at the center of conservative economic thought in the United States and abroad since Reagan’s presidency, during which he cut tax rates for the rich.

    But the IMF study’s five authors say we should instead focus on raising the income of the poor and the middle class. “Widening income inequality is the defining challenge of our time,” they write. “In advanced economies, the gap between the rich and poor is at its highest level in decades.”

    Raising up the poor appears to have a dramatic effect: A 1% increase in the income share of the bottom quintile results in a 0.38% increase in GDP. Meanwhile, a 1% increase in the income share of the top 20% results in a 0.08% decrease in GDP growth. …..”

    “…The OECD study found that an increase in inequality on the Gini scale of two points corresponded to a 4.7% drop in GDP.

    Stefano Scarpetto, the director of the Directorate for Employment, Labour and Social Affairs at the OECD, said that the main conclusion of the OECD book, In It Together: Why Less Inequality Benefits All, is that economic growth is most damaged by the effects of inequality on the bottom 40% of incomes.

    “[Increased inequality] tends to reduce the potential of the lowest income classes to invest in quality education,” Scarpetta said, adding that the negative effect of increased inequality on growth that the IMF researchers found holds true for the advanced economies of the OECD.”

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