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Comment #5215420 by Johnnathan Biskalero

Johnnathan Biskalero Jun 27th 2016, 8:41 AM #

Keep voting till you get the right result……where have experienced that before ???????

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Poll: Would you like to see a second referendum on Brexit in the UK?

Poll: Would you like to see a second referendum on Brexit in the UK?

More than 3.5 million people have signed a petition to have a rerun of the vote.

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    Favourite Brian Farrell
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    Jun 27th 2016, 9:08 AM

    Yes, only because the Brexit Campaign centred on what has now been revealed as misleading promises and lies. Immigration won’t be curtailed and the £356m per week sent to Brussels won’t now all be spent on the NHS. Statements that they have had to concede were untrue.

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    Favourite AN other
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    Jun 27th 2016, 9:10 AM

    I’m not a fan of the result but it is the democratic process and such is the nature of the democratic process that sometimes it doesn’t go your way so suck it up and deal with it!

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    Favourite Chris Kirk
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    Jun 27th 2016, 9:17 AM

    The English won’t boil their cabbage a second time, they have tied themselves into the result many tories have wanted for decades.

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    Favourite Charlie Melia
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    Jun 27th 2016, 9:21 AM

    You really do get a glimpse of the goldfish mentality of the Irish in this poll. After suffering not once but twice at the hands of the “Keep voting till you get it right” brigade in the Irish political parties and Europe here we are demanding that the British do the same.
    Idiots believing the sky will fall rhetoric from the same politicians who lied to make us vote again and again. We really do deserve the kicking we get from Europe. Sure we practically ask for it.
    There will be no massive destruction of economies if Brexit is let take its course. But thats not going to happen is it. Europe aided by the Irish government is going to install borders and Trade/Travel blocks even though it will destroy our own economy. They will then blame the British democratic decision to leave. Just watch. It won’t be the British that install a border, it will be the Irish Government.

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    Favourite Maurice Bourke
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    Jun 27th 2016, 9:47 AM

    thousands of those signatures on the petition are from outside the UK and can’t vote – from Vatican and Asia etc. Cameron said there would only be one. Respect the people and how they voted. Stupid regressives falling for fearmongering.

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    Favourite mr magoo
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    Jun 27th 2016, 9:53 AM

    EU FASCIST DICTATORSHIP. Where is our referebdum ? And if the dumb sheep vote remain can we do it again and again till we get leave.

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    Favourite Peter King
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:20 AM

    In America if you want to change constitution you need 37 out of 50 states to agree. When something is this drastic you need a large majority. Democracy can’t just be 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who to eat for dinner.

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    Favourite Teddington
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:21 AM

    I would have no issue with them going back to the polls again! With the climb down by Farage and co. since the result on their promises and the reasons that most have offered for voting to exit I would suggest that a true democracy requires that they put this to the people again! With a large minority voting no just as a result if their own racist views and to kick Cameron I think the result if they went again woukd see a massive swing towards remain!

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    Favourite Robert Burke
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:22 AM

    Comres poll on UK voters from the day after the election:

    48% happy with result
    43% unhappy with result
    7% indifferent

    The media who should be impartial, are now a collection of liberal elite globalists and this is why they are creating a false narrative of regret among the British people.

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    Favourite Ciaran Ó Fallúin
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:24 AM

    I know it’s become a laughing matter, but I’m still relieved we had a second vote on Lisbon. The decisions required post 2009 could be taken and allowed fires to be put out earlier because Lisbon was enacted. The No campaign then, like Britain’s leave campaign lied to voters (maybe I have been conscripted into an EU army and the NHS are getting 350m next week… but I feel like I haven’t and the 350m was a disgraceful lie). Britain’s voters were lied to, but they won’t get a second vote.

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    Favourite mr magoo
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:27 AM

    Shouldn’t we be calling for another Irish election then ?? I mean you could hardly say we had any real decisivecwinners but they still imposed themselves on us. The Leave vote was a clear majority and now the remain side will not accept it. Is it time to admit that the EU is an undemocratic elitist institution run by the elite for the elite

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    Favourite Ó Connmhaigh
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:44 AM

    Professor John Curtice, whose exit poll was the only one to predict the Conservatives would win last year’s general election, said the subject was so divisive within mainstream political parties and their supporters that it would be unlikely to form a campaigning issue for some time – let alone spark another public vote.
    Prof Curtice said: “How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.
    “It’s no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don’t always mean a great deal.
    “It has passed the 100,000 mark for it to be debated in Parliament. All that means is that some MPs will say, ‘It’s a terrible shame’, others will say, ‘Hallelujah’. Then that’s the end of it.
    “Mainstream political parties have been divided on Europe. The parties’ supporters have been divided. Nobody is going to want to campaign prominently on this.”

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    Favourite Wally Mooney
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:49 AM

    Isn’t it interesting how the Bank of England can suddenly pull £250 billion from thin air to bailout the finance sector but the £350 billion to fund the NHS has suddenly evaporated?
    It’s almost as if the Bank of England has an endless supply of sterling but the political and economic establishment pretend otherwise when it might be used to benefit the majority working class instead of capital. The emperor has no clothes.

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    Favourite Wally Mooney
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:52 AM

    £350 million pw to fund NHS

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    Favourite Piotrek Król
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    Jun 27th 2016, 10:54 AM

    Who’s laughing Ciaran? What’s so funny about a government forcing it’s people to go back to the polls because they and their puppet masters didn’t get the result they wanted the first time around? I’m glad you find that so funny.

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    Favourite AN other
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:04 AM

    I’ll be fair, if they held a second vote but required a minimum of 62% (calculated from the current leave %+10%) REMAIN votes in order to overturn the first referendum that would be fair

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    Favourite Paul Gurney
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:04 AM

    @Charlie Melia….well said sir.spot on.

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    Favourite mr magoo
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:07 AM

    Haven’t they already shown that this petition has thousands of fake email addresses from places like Nort Korea etc. ??

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    Favourite Gerry Campbell
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:15 AM

    All elections are won with lies and end in broken promises , so do you just run it again , then why not a third one after that , as Europe would do till it got its desired result.

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    Favourite LITTLEONE
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:17 AM

    That petition only has 400.000 signatures from within the UK. It has 36.000 from the Vatican state. Which has a population of 800. Should all elections just be rerun because one side doesn’t like the result. The people voted , they decided, how many lies has elections here been won on? Countless. Should they be rerun. The fact is leave won and they have to come out with their plan. It’s less than a week since the Result. The arrogance from the remain side is something else, they hadn’t expected this result and the only response. Forget democracy. Let’s vote again.

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    Favourite Oh Sheeple Stand Up
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:18 AM

    @Brian By your logic both the Fiscal Compact and Lisbon treaties should be rerun in Ireland as they were both won on lies

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    Favourite LITTLEONE
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:52 AM

    The fact that media are even giving this petition credibility shows that the media are not interested in truth . Because this petition has been proven to be a load of codswallop. It’s clutching at straws and its a disgrace that the media like politicians don’t care about democracy. It’s all just self interest when it’s not in their favour.

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    Favourite Chris Kirk
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:54 AM

    They say that when one door closes that another one will open, we shall have to see. The fact is that while Britain slams the door on Europe and Ireland is hoping that companies will set up here instead we create a problem for ourselves through not having enough houses and a poor public transport system from outside of the capital. The likelihood will mean that more EU nationals will now want to come to Ireland for work and their dependents will have EU entitlements which we can hardly afford to pay. I just hope that Ireland can sustain the fallout from Britains brexit vote.

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    Favourite Greg McGarry
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    Jun 27th 2016, 12:07 PM

    @Charles Melia: That’s too simplistic. The Germans need the Euro to keep their currency affordable and their economy running. If there’s contagion from Brexit and Denmark, Sweden & France, for starters, follow-suit then the end is nigh for the EU & its Euro. This cannot be allowed to happen so there can be no ‘soft-landing’ for Britain, unfortunately. The very survival of the EU is at stake here and the very powerful want to keep it & Britain is a tumour that must he excised for the whole to survive. The open market is very positive for business and Business is what pays everyone whether Public or Private Sector. Things are going to get very uncomfortable for Britain -unless there’s a prompt rollback -perhaps using Scotland as the catalyst -let them block Art. 50.

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    Favourite Tensing Norgay
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    Jun 27th 2016, 12:13 PM

    Charlie Melia , i love the way you think you are the smart insightful one , with i guess you would call your “ocean” mentality, Of course you ignore or probably dont know about the root of the banking crisis lays with a British Tory government under thatcher , who along with Reagan totally deregulated the global financial sector which ultimately led to the conditions that caused the financial Meltdown . Then, in response the British tories again , and yes encouraged by the EU delivered savages budgets which alienated the working class who voted heavily to leave because they blamed the EU for all their ills . You ignore the damage the decision could have on people all over Europe not least here . You have rationalized an argument you have no educated support for by being bombastic and critical of those who didnt want to risk their economies or their right to travel freely or have their labor laws protected Of course ignore the cooperation on the likes of climate change ,and presumably advocate a ” lets all go it on our own” on climate , which is what the Tories will do . The EU has problems no doubt about that but it also has done tremendous good that your half baked analysis ignore . The EU coincides with the longest period of piece in the continent for centuries , that no co-incidence . So – really who is the idiot of the piece – i suggest that could very well be you Sir!!

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    Favourite Mark Jones
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    Jun 27th 2016, 12:23 PM

    If you asked a lot of people who voted what they are voting for or what would happen if they were to leave the European union they would shrug their shoulders. If you don’t know what you’re voting for, don’t vote till you do.

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    Favourite Oh Sheeple Stand Up
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    Jun 27th 2016, 12:24 PM

    Eh @Peter we are not in I presume you mean US But by your logic the whole 28 states of Europe would have to vote

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    Favourite Frankie Mangan
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    Jun 27th 2016, 1:18 PM

    A bit like every election so………….

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    Favourite John
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    Jun 27th 2016, 1:18 PM

    Whatever about the UK being big enough to stand on their own as an economy we would be wiped out immediately by the US multi nationals backed by the US Government if the EU broke apart.

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    Favourite Tony Canning
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    Jun 27th 2016, 2:08 PM

    Wally did you just claim that the battle bus 350m will now go to the NHS????? Hahahhahahahah. I’d love to know what brexiteers are going to explain the near 8% the Irish stock market has lost today and when they reckon things will be so much better again?

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    Favourite Phil Blanc
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    Jun 27th 2016, 2:20 PM

    “Yes, only because the Brexit Campaign centred on what has now been revealed as misleading promises and lies. Immigration won’t be curtailed and the £356m per week sent to Brussels won’t now all be spent on the NHS. Statements that they have had to concede were untrue.”

    Well that’s not entirely true. They were revealed to be outright lies by everybody who ought to know and still people decided to trust The Sun over experts. It’s just now the people who said these things have admitted it too.

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    Favourite Nigel Sinnott
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    Jun 27th 2016, 4:06 PM

    Britain just pulled out of the EU because the EU didn’t listen to Ireland on the Nice treaty referendum. The EU also ignored the government’s of France and holland when they rejected Nice. A lot of the concern back in 2002 with the new accession countries was that immigration may become an issue for existing members states. Our masters in the EU told us to be quiet and that their would be no mass migration from eastern European to western Europe. Immigration from these new accession states to western Eu states has been called by some as the biggest movement of people in Europe since ww2. The immigration issue in the Brexit campaign is one of the main reasons many voters voted to leave. The EU forced Nice treaty on the people of Europe and totally ignored the French and Dutch parliaments protests and concerns and then also told Ireland to have another referendum on it until we got it right. If we ignore the will of the majority today then we will have a bigger dilemma tomorrow. Brexit is proof of this

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    Favourite Paudi Onail
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    Jun 27th 2016, 4:06 PM

    i think they may get over 17million signatures even it means importing a few from outside the UK. OK, so 3.5 million remain voters have signed it? would sound repetitive. Why repeat what you already did last week?

    Anybody can sign that thing from outside the UK anyway, so doesn’t add up.

    Dunno which is worse, this or YouGov’s surveys.

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    Favourite Tony Canning
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    Jun 27th 2016, 5:26 PM

    There’s no doubt that all those signatures are fully legit. There are bound to be a good few that arent. However, there are UK residents who are not all in the UK right now. Like students for example….. personally I think it’s madness to have a repeat of the referendum. The vote should be respected. There have been some good points made today however; Scotland are likely to have another independence referendum; we’ve yet to see what ‘deal’ is made and if that deal is any better than the current situation; large companies have been quiet so far; things have and will change and that means a different referendum potentially around the question of “do you accept or reject the deal that’s on the table”. There are a lot of questions to be answered. One of the big ones is about access to the single market – will the UK still have to pay for this (very likely), will it be any cheaper (very unlikely), will they be obliged to accept freedom of movement (definitely), will things be any different in these areas while the UK ends up without influence in the EU? I doubt it.

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    Favourite Tony Canning
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    Jun 27th 2016, 6:13 PM

    NOT fully legit…… how embarrassing!

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    Favourite Peter donnelly
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    Jun 27th 2016, 11:52 PM

    to Robert we have been lied to for the past 5 plus years why cant we have a rerun of the last election until we get rid of fg/lab/ff ….

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