When are the right-on crowd having a protest at the imminent slaughter of 40,000+ Christian & Yazidi men, women & children in northern Iraq?

“When are the right-on crowd having a protest at the imminent slaughter of 40,000+ Christian & Yazidi men, women & children in northern Iraq?”

The US is intervening in Iraq to take on ISIS. There is zero intervention in Gaza, and they are locked in a virtual prison where there is a high risk of being killed on a daily basis. Different scenarios.

Off you go so, why don’t you get off your arse and arrange a protest so! In my opponion you are an idiot for even mentioning “Ireland’s problems” in the comments section for this storey, what’s happening over there is a real problem not the crap you are whining about.

@Stephen

I imagine people in England etc. were saying the same thing during our Famine…

But in fairness there are many reasons to demonstrate for injustices here in Ireland so feel free to start a post about them and I’ll back you up…

…but lets not take away from the long slow genocide of the Palestinian people… a people who were a peaceful agrarian m(ix of Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

… a people who had no hand act or part in the holocaust and yet have being made to pay for it,

thanks to an international political movement of immense power, privilege and finance…

Z.i.o.n.i.s.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1pOLNtDsTho

Fair?

The shared scenario is death on a vast scale.

Deflect & poorly rationalise all you want, but its most odd that these folk consider 1,700 Palestinian deaths more important than 40,000 imminent deaths in northern iraq.

I can only assume the pro-Hamas folks take no issue with what other islamist groups do?

@Business Cat…

When you arrange one…

Though I have a feeling we’ll be waiting a long time!

because they are brainwashed antisemitic lefty socialist wierdos most of them think a burka is used for women with bad acne not that they are made to wear them Hamas would not do such a thing.

The jewish people were the most generous to the Irish when they arrived off the famine ship in the USA fed them and helped them they are very fair to the Irish maybe you should wear a burka and go and join them like there brainwashed followers.

Of course I’m not going to organised one.

I know it makes no difference, other than ego masturbation for the participants.

Just curious as to why larger carnages don’t warrant a peep from the right-on mob?

I assume that if you support islamist terrorists in Palestine, you must also support them in Iraq?

@ Armchair Generals… Yaaaaaaaaaawn!

At least the Hasbara puppets have chosen a side… the wrong side of History!

Free Gaza!

Free Palestine!

Resist Z.i.o.n.i.s.m. and the Hasbara always!

I take it you believe that the creation of the state of Israel is akin to the Palestinians “paying” for the Holocaust. Does that mean that you agree with Hamas that living with Jews is a punishment?

“When are the right-on crowd having a protest at the imminent slaughter of 40,000+ Christian & Yazidi men, women & children in northern Iraq?”

When ISIS have an embassy in Ireland we will march to that too. But because your too thick to understand ISIS is not a legitimate country in the eyes of the world you can keep throwing that line to try and put people off despising Israels actions. It’s a lame, dimwitted, thoroughly ignorant argument. Next business cat will be commenting on peoples spell, such is his lack of substance. You really must think people in Ireland are stupid, but they’re not.

@ Aha so one plus one equals 16 is it?

You”re really not at this Hasbara stuff long are you?

Tell me do you agree with the Israeli Ambassadors wife’s comments about ALL the Irish people.. whom she has described as Anti-Semitic Heathens?!?

She should be thrown out on her supremacist Z.i.o.n.i.s.t behind just like the Mr Modai himself…

The man himself is a bit of an oddball, harassing women.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3382506,00.html

@Dummy

Well, she appears to be right about at least one of them …..

@ Nice try missy but if that’s all you got then my work is done and I’m off to one of the lovely pubs in Dublin which have declared themselves Israeli Apartheid free zones!

And FYI … as every right thinking person on this planet knows…

Anti Z.i.o.n.i.s.t does not mean Anti-Jewish!

Bus Cat – more rubbish. You may think that people march for the sake of protesting, but that’s clearly not the case or people would be marching more freuquently. It’s why Stephen Chambers (also above) says he “can’t understand”. Try understanding, you might get there if your vision isn’t clouded by pro-Israeli BS. Here’s your starter for 10.. and this is only my take on it…

People protest to make their feelings known so that other people who might take suggested action on the matter do so. With me so far?

There would be no point protesting about Syria or Iraq unless you thought that the Syrian regime or ISIS would be concerned about how Irish people felt. What would be the objectives of marching to protest against ISIS? So why protest anything, right?

Because this protest isn’t aimed at Israelis who evidently couldn’t give a monkey’s cock what Irish people think.

The only people this protest is aimed at is Irish and EU political representatives who might give a toss – and even if they don’t – they might be persuaded by the weight of public opinion from their constituents. Votes may depend on it.

Their are objectives at a march like this. Vocal opposition to the Euro-Med trade agreement which includes Israel (which must according to the agreement have regard for and protect human rights which it horrifically violates). Expulsion of the Israeli ambassador and closure of the embassy. If they show such clear disregard for world public opinion then there is clearly little reason to have a diplomatic channel open.

You can argue the toss whether those things are achievable or not, but you have no argument that people should be marching for another reason. The facts that so many people attend the marches and that they continue to gain momentum should be enough to impress. The fact that there is very little that can be described as self interest in this outpouring should also be noteworthy. Sneer as much as you like but you don’t seem to be contributing anything but bitterness.

Yeah business. Was strange to listen to Obama this am talking about the genocide of Iraqi Kurds by a religious fundamentalists which the US helped create to fight the Syrian Government. The silence by Obama on the genocide in Palestine being committed by the US supported Israel is disgusting. How many food drop did the US do for the civilians in Palestine? ZERO.

@ Business Cat you hit the nail bang on,

Take my word for it , if Israel or the US (used to be SA) were not involved there would be NO march.period, THAT and THAT alone is the reason there were no flags in support if the 40,000 Christians, actually its nearly a million that are displaced , by the “Head Hacker ” (CONVERT, RUN or DIE ) its only a matter of time before there is a march organized by the “usual suspects” to stop the bombing of ISIS.

That is also the reason out of a population of nearly a million in Dublin they get “up to” 7,000 take out the SF/Eirigi/ people and the rest, and there probably 2 thousand real concerned people, Not everyone fooled! I mean lets face it there were nearly more Palestinian flags there, than the whole of the middle east!!

@dog. Seems to be a recurring theme – ie no embassy so no protest. U do appreciate that the children & other innocents subject to Islamic terror will wholly understand those sentiments. Incidentally, Israeli retaliation has all the hallmarks of a war crime but there are others & on a larger scale that deserve attention.

Because as bad as a pay cut or losing your job might be it’s still not having 500 lb pounds dropped all around you..
Nobody was killed (directly) in our recession. No kids were killed playing football or sheltering in UN schools. There simply is no comparison.
PS – I also protested the bailouts out & creation of NAMA.

Taxi there is a massive difference between bombing the daylights out of densely-packed civilian areas, and targeting a bunch of head-hackers in the desert with a drone strike. Christians are fine in Hamas-controlled Gaza and also in the West Bank. They are being killed by ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Actually a few have been killed by the Israelis in Gaza too…

“Seems to be a recurring theme – ie no embassy so no protest.”

Nonsense. If you want to protest ISIS organise it. Stop putting people down for feeling sympathy towards a people that have been oppressed since 1948. This has been going on long enough. We stood against apartheid before. Such a lame argument, “protest everything or protest nothing”. I don’t go on every protest march for every cause, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have solidarity with them. I hate that excuse people use, it’s so lazy.

Your whats wrong with society today. When somebody stands up for whats right you try to slander them with labels and paint them as supporters of hamas and isis. Being critical of israel does not equate to support for hamas or isis . Its a humanitarian issue to support the civillians that are being slaughtered by israel but your support of israeli action in gaza does equate to you condone the murder of children. Does that not shame you??

Business cat, the slaughter in Iraq isn’t a hip enough cause for them, doesn’t matter about people being slaughtered by Islamic nut jobs, that’s acceptable somehow!

Sorry don’t do protest – try to do
best in my own backyard. U might understand that people have a right to ask & ponder on public gatherings that on public thoroughfares on this & this only. In fact u might be aware that some folk are somewhat suspicious that no other atrocities are worthy of any attention. I am not involved in such protests as I have already said, but u are & I think I have a right not to hav my query dismissed.

Sorry “ponder on public gatherings that assemble on public thoroughfares that have concern with this subject & this subject only ” just curious !

Dummy by name Dummy by nature! On a lighter note, it’s great to see some of his Islamic friends being sent to Hell

We have the right to protest. There are dubious people commenting on these pages. But even if they believe what they type the argument that “we don’t protest ISIS” is a mere distraction that will not work. Because every night when you turn on the news and see more dead children you get more angry. This isn’t “trendy” or “leftist” or whatever other flak label people want to put on it. It’s about stopping the slaughter of Gaza, the lifting of the blockade and solidarity with these oppressed people. One step at a time, this is an issue that requires immediate action.

Truth hurts I guess.

Good one Jopmarsy. That was a great quip, witty, smart, funny. You have a career in television.

So what will a protest in Dublin actually achive in a war zone 1500 miles away??A

Same thing protests in the US did about Vietnam maybe. Or maybe nothing. It doesn’t matter. People have the right in this country to protest, the same as you have the right to type trash here. What would Dunnes Stores workers refusing to stock South African goods achieve? What did the Peace People in the north achieve? What does anything like this achieve? More than your commentary here, that’s for sure.

How does one protest against ISIS? To which embassy should one direct one’s ire?

And how much funding are we giving to ISIS? And which ISIS products do I boycott in the local Spar? Maybe the best way would be to protest the ISIS seat at the UN. Wait, they don’t have one.

Wont be censored. Read my post? Or do you just like p155ing on people’s chips?

The American embassy?

They’re not very good at answering questions… They are only paid to pour cold water on hot topics.

Tell the Ottoman refuges “Palestinians” to get rid of Hamas.

Jews lived there first. When the Romans removed them they named the land Palestine whilst the Jews moved into Europe. When the Jews were removed from Europe they were give Israel in 1948. Their home land. Refuges from the Ottoman empire where currently residing in the area for not that long 50 or so. So Jews where there first. Jews have been attacked 6 times since 1948 by multiple Arab countries. Winning each time. Until Hamas are removed and stop firing rockets into Israel since they came into power nearly ten years ago. God love the children Hamas are sacrificing and God bless Israel. They want peace, Hamas want destruction of Israeli Jews.

Come off it. While we’re at it lets reinstate the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Prussia and whatever other state used to exist. I bet you’re disgusted by Putin’s expansion in Ukraine, yet Ukraine is part of Russia historically (it’s only existed since 1991) so by your logic he has every right. Lay off the spliffs man.

Obviously the turnout for the support was unbelievably commendable! We are historically class at coming out and supporting other countries causes. What I am pointing out is that we have such vitriol for other countries problems why not for our own??

Because no one is dropping bombs on us and we are here to help each other. We are calm and measured and are optimistic. We believe in a better future, so we remain calm.

Fair enough there’s no bombs dropping on us. The unfortunate fact of the matter is while what’s going on there is a tragic stain on humanity, we are too quick to jump to international causes whilst our own country is in the economic toilet.

Dummy, have you noticed the deafening silence from Arab countries about Gaza??? They don’t care if your Hamas friends get wiped out, wrong side of history?? Time will tell.

Dog.
U certainly have every right to protest & I think it’s a good thing. I hav also a right to ask questions as I do of Israeli supporters. Meanwhile there is a deafening silence from clonskeagh mosque regarding plight of Iraqi, Egyptian, Nigerian & Syrian Christians. Surely they could use their influence or encourage their young men not to “jihad”, but to try & save Christian & other denomination lives. Now somebody is going to tell me about how complicated that effort would be.

Christopher – what is that you are maintaining here?
That people should not protest at something they feel strongly about unless it is happening in Ireland?
That people should only protest at something that effects themselves?
That people are not protesting enough about things that happen in Ireland?
That people are not protesting enough about things that happen in Ireland to themselves?

It seems to me that the second two do not have anything to do with the first two.

How many people turned out to support the Israeli Terrorist State?

It’s a pathetic turnout considering the widespread public opinion. Perhaps people realise it’s a waste of time.

‘Why stand outside Dunnes stores protesting, it’s a waste of time’ – Half of Dublin, circa 1984

Then Mandela was freed

Nelson Mandela was freed in 1990, to suggest that he was freed because of the action outside Dunnes Stores in 1984 is a bit of a push. Their actions, well incredibly important and noble, did not lead to his freedom

I’m sorry, but why would you take out the “local muslims”… am I not a “true Irish” person because I live too close to O’Connell st? Am I too local? I was born in the Rotunda… where does your parameter stop? Are non-local muslims OK then?

Sarah – read it again and use your brain this time.

The Dunnes Stores strike was the beginning of the national boycott which led to the Irish state banning the import of south African goods, which in itself was part of a worldwide BDS movement. The reason it took so long for the apartheid SA state to fall was the continued support of Ronnie Regan and Thatcher. When it got to the point that Regan was continually vetoing his own congresses motions to boycott South Africa, it was game over.

Mandela himself was the first to thank and acknowledge the Dunnes Stores workers, they were even invited to his funeral.

Were jammin. You’re getting funnier and funnier.

As usual it was a big story about not very much back in the 1980s. Trade unions were syill somewhat concerned about workers rights and werent gucci suited smoked salmon socialists and limousine liberals they are nowadays.Bunch of women got fired because they wouldnt handle SA goods,like there was simply shelves stuffed full of SA goods back then in Dunnes.They were fired and made political capital from it. Odd though that beck then there was a major employer in Shannon town who was a white south African company.Was called DE BEERS and they handled blood diamonds just as much as industrial diamonds in Shannon.Odd that the peace mongers and anti white govt crowd never opened their gobs about De beers back then,just as much as the ignored the Irish collusion of Garda special branch and emigration officals on dumping political asylum seekers back on Areoflot aircraft going to Havanna or Moscow..

@Were Jammin

It was a great day… and great to see such support form the ordinary people of Ireland as well as the tourists… except for the brainwashed ones… guess who? lol

Now I’ll sit back and enjoy as the fuming frustrated Hasbara warriors post about 100 comments trying to play down what a success today was!

One for the good guys! :)

And the pro-Israel demo was huge. Oh wait, there wasn’t one. The usual turds are on here today though. Can’t use proper names in public to spew their insane views. So they do it here.

Fognostical – My apologies – I had forgotten – of course “Local Muslims” would be shot if they tried to March in Israel – wouldn’t they ?
Not in Ireland yet though – we have a little bit of Democracy in Ireland – an awful lot more – even tolerating Enda’s version of it !

@ Fear

You must be thinking of the Muslim anti war protesters in Gaza who were executed by Hamas. There have been lots of marches in Israel against the conflict with Muslim and Jewish marchers. I haven’t heard of any of them being shot

Claire – One wouldn’t hear about Demonstrators against The Genocide getting Shot in Israel – they are in jail first , without Trial.
Then they are sent to The Concentration Camp , that is Gaza City.

Then the Genocide Team of IDF set up their Extermination Team and start Bombing the Entire Concentration Camp – blowing up everyone – yes EVERYONE – in their wake – that’s CHILDREN – MAMMY’s & DADDY’S too!

Claire 2 israeli protesters were hospitalised for marching against the occupation the other day. Two palestinian protesters were shot dead in the west bank yesterday . Maybe you dont have access to any non israeli propoganda news sources. But thats ok you keep your blinkers on and spout away in support of israeli war crimes and ethnic cleansing. The world definitely needs more like you

And one of the few Israeli journalists who was brave enough to speak out.. Gideon Levi now has been given a bodyguard as Z.i.o.n.i.s.t. mobs are threatening to kill him..and every Jew who doesn’t support Z.i.o.n.i.s.m.!

Hamas are simply the Mirror Image of Z.i.o.n.i.s.t. Likud…

Was 7000 more than was out supporting Israel. ZERO% for Israel. War criminals

You’re claiming there have been no demonstrations in Tel Aviv against the conflict in Gaza?

@mcbab http://www.rte.ie/tv/scannal/Dunnes.html

@SarahConnor I know where your son is.

Well said Sarah!

@richard. It didn’t make the story here so we can safely assume it wasn’t a priority. Shame.

It’s all about proportionate condemnation. Hamas have murdered 3 civilians.. Israel has murdered at least 1,400 of them including over 400 children.
I’d say that proportionate to the length of speech, i am sure Hamas got their fair share.
Charles, why did you not go and support the condemnation of both Hamas and Israel, seeing as you are fair and balanced in your comments.

Presumably – The Pro-Israeli (Genocide in Gaza) Propaganda Corp , will be on spreading their porkies here in the next few minutes , earning their 30 pieces of silver ?

Is that complaint about lack of Israeli casualties still going the rounds of the dhimmi ?
Israel built iron Dome.
Hamas built tunnels, beach side homes and luxury hotels , none of which are accessible to Palestinians. Palestinians are just cannon fodder for the Hamas ‘leaders’ who hide out in Qatar and send their kids to school in Europe.

Hamsa supporters, please put up or shut up about your ‘propaganda’ theories and Hasbara conspiracies.

Its impossible to argue with self righteous fools, who think their cause is so much more important than everything else.

Must be killing them that Gaza is not the headline news now that the Americans have decided to put the real problem of ISIS into the headlines.

Hi Cal, I was at the beach with my kids. Got lucky with the weather till mid afternoon then beat a retreat to get ice creams. Typical summer

“30 pieces of silver”? Hmmm nothing anti-Semitic about that

@ Charles

Are any of the Hasbara giving out about the massive civilian casualties caused by the Israeli army? NO!

Are any of you giving out about the many quotes coming from Israeli government figures e.g. the new nazi Moshe Feighlin from the Likud party? No!

Guess they forgot that part in the Hasbara manual!

Thats right wayne it is pointless arguing with you self righteous fools who support mass murderers and killers of children especially brainwashed self righteous fools who believe every little bit of pro israeli propoganda, absolutely pointless

Hamas, by firing rockets into Israel, are also responsible for all the deaths on both sides

When you looked at your kids playing on the beach charles,did you spare a thought at all for the four kids that were playing on the beach in gaza a few weeks ago? They didnt get any ice creams

@Charles, Glad you enjoyed your day on the beach with your kids and that you didn’t have to see them getting blown to shreds.

Of coarse they are stephen and israel are completely justified by blowing up kids on the beach and justified in blowing up civillian shelters and of coarse definitely justified in blowing up the hospitals treating the survivors

I did say also responsible, not solely responsible. Simple fact, if Hamas didn’t fire rockets then Israel wouldn’t have needed to respond. For every action theres a reaction, basic law of physics

There are no hamas supporters here but there seems to be plenty who support the child killer brigades of the idf

Stephen dont kid yourself, there is no justification for the slaughter inflicted on palestinian civillians these last few weeks.

“Claire Finn” – Is an obvious Fake Twitter Account, set up , it seems, by some very dark quarter – probably some Israeli Propaganda Body .
Just examine it’s retweeting of Israeli sourced “info” – which is the real giveaway !

Said “person” has about 25 “contributions” on this thread alone ?

@ Stephen

Action and reaction… you’re 100% correct… you just have it in the wrong way round:

So lets discuss how the rockets came about shall we?

Israeli forces were shelling and invading Gaza long BEFORE the rockets began.

According to a pro-Israel website, the Jewish Virtual Library, Gaza rocket fire against Israel began in 2001. Four rockets were launched in the entire year. The Israeli military website agrees with this chronology, saying that the first rocket was launched from Gaza on April 16, 2001. At that time Israeli forces were regularly shelling both the West Bank and Gaza, and had been doing so for several months. Gaza was particularly hard hit.

See IfAmericansknew.org for casualty statistics…

So lets set the record straight….

Wow some FG supporters here too supporting genocide in Palestine

Foggy why don’t you go back to work at the embassy and let the Irish debate thus issue pleaser

@ Stephen. First blood in this round of the conflict was drawn by israel, not hamas. And just because israel is having to deal with mostly homemade rockets fired by the people it imprisons and blockades in Gaza, does not mean they get to wipe their ar$es with the Geneva convention or humanitarian law.

How many contributions do you have? Unlike you, I have a name and a face…. and an argument.
Ad hominum attacks are a sure sign of having no argument.

Claire – Your Name & Your Face – IS A FAKE & I’m calling you out ? – you are an IDF Genocide, paid , plant – I have examined your Twitter Account & have no doubt whatsoever as to your lying motives and your taking money from the Government of Israel, to spiel their porky pies !

Claire is a fake. She one of the paid Israeli supporters. Charlie and foggy too

@FearCiarraioch

Fake account? Says the “person” with two accounts and 5 followers.

Hi Claire,

Apart from the Statue of Liberty on your Twitter account (hardly Irish So). you also seem to have made a radical mistake. If you’re living in Ireland, as I assume that would be your main reason to be on here, blithely ignoring 60+ years of Israeli aggression and 67 UN Reslutions – while does your Twitter account say ‘British Isles’? The Republic of Ireland is not a part of the ‘British Isles’, certainly not politically.

It would seem your views on just about everything are skewed and confused. Possibly you are not really who you say you are, as just about everyone on here realises.

One final thing – take a look at the pro-Palestinians comments up and down this page. I think you will notice that the vast majority are very strongly in support of the Palestinians. We are also in favour of the observation of the UN Charter, which enshrines the right to self-defence when attacked. Israel has been attacking Palestine for more than 60 years, progressively stealing land, building illegal settlements, trapping and even ‘controlling’ the amount of calories that the enslaved Palestinians can eat.

Controlling their food.

When you come up with anything other than a inhuman explanation for ‘rationing’ a trapped people’s food supply, then we might listen to you. For a moment.

Your rabid anti-Palestinian diatribes only serve to harden the overwhelming majority of peoples’ opinions in favour of supporting the Palestinians.

But then, let’s face it, the game is up. You are not ‘Clair Finn’, just another paid for mercenary, hiding behind a fake photo.

History will remember this.

P.S. Vive la France! (The French built the Statue of Liberty…you probably didn’t know that either)

Ok so Claire. Take a photo of yourself with today’s date and use it as your twitter profile pic.

@ Ya’ll

I’ve examined her account and in fairness it is indeed a real one… but if she’s Irish then I’m a bloody Leprechaun! Definitely a Hasbara plant… and shes also friends with the the Journals resident nutjob… Foggy! How sweet! :)

Easy to miss dude, to be honest their website could be laid out better.

Spoken like a true Son of the Desert.

Dungeon – No I haven’t seen them. It would be great if you could link them, so the pro Israel crowd can be put in their place

If Israel is our only hope we have no hope. Hope is nonexistent in Israel.

I’m not surprised Roger,given the censorship in your Best Little Democracy in the Middle-East,do you know how to use Google at all?

Lol, I’m no fan of Israel. I googled it but couldn’t find it. What is your problem with linking them? Wouldn’t you like to show people the brutality of Israel?

Can’t find any Israeli head-hacking photos, will these do ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719991/Horrific-new-photographs-ISIS-atrocities-prompted-Obama-act.html

Dungeon – First you said there was pictures. Then you said you weren’t surprised I haven’t seen them because of censorship. Are you privy to information that is censored for the rest of us?

Might aswell be talking to a packet of crisps, Roger.

The journal dhimmi get their news from Radio Hamas on FGM106.