“Parental responsibility is even more important. Parents should encourage their children to complete school, and move onto third level education.”

I agree. But it shouldn’t just be Travellers that this encouragement be given to. There is a far greater population of delinquent non-Traveller families whose offspring are responsible for far more crime and social welfare spending than Travellers. Surely we should target them first than single out Travellers?

Do they choose to live in halting sites?, what about the family that were burned out to stop them moving in …..they are criticised for living in halting site, criticised for living in houses ….
do we really want to house Travellers in Nazis style camps in the hills of Donegal?

“Surely we should target them first than single out Travellers?”

I’m not singling out anyone. The article makes reference to travellers, I’m responding to the context of the article.

“Do they choose to live in halting sites?”

Yes.

“what about the family that were burned out to stop them moving in”

I think you’ll find that this is a very rare occurrence, and isn’t limited to travellers. It happens to many people in the settled community also. Either act should be obviously condemned, but this is a red herring and completely deflects from the issue at hand.

You’re completely missing the point – and I think it’s one that most people have acknowledged. The state is not responsible for young travellers leaving school 4.7 years on average in contrast to other children. That is the responsibility of their parents, and I think people are getting tired of parents not stepping up and accepting responsibility for failing their children.

Does every group and body in this country expect the state to mammy them from the cradle to the grave?
The state provides plenty to all but there has to be some responsibility on the part of the parents.
Every rights group in this country would want to wake up to the reality of the situation and stop demanding rubbish like this.

Children’s rights alliance, would youse ever have a go at the parents before you start mouthing off against the state, you pick the easy target, are you afraid of getting a brick through your window or your car keyed or torched by the real culprits?

If i don’t send my kids to school for more than 20 days I’ve someone knocking on the door threatening me with court. Why isn’t it the same for a traveller family

That Martin Collins talks some amount of shite. He never apologies to the victims of travellers crime, the elderly people they rip off on a daily basis. Let him answer me this, where do they get the money for their brand new vans and their big fat gypsy weddings? Answer me that Martin? People aren’t stupid, let them stop moaning and make some contribution to outlet struggling economy.

Because they would beat the living daylights out of you if you went in demanding they do something they don’t want to, regular things such as paying tax, bin charges, not littering, water charges, property tax and minor things such as ensuring their children attend school.

Traveller children collected for, and brought back from school by the State. Are “settled” children and their parents awarded this privilege? Is that not a form of reverse discrimination in itself?

What grade was given to the children’s parents?

Fact….lead by example, parents need to do there bit instead of expecting it to be done for them….cut the benefits for those tax dogging….and here come the red thumbs!

Fact….lead by example, parents need to do there bit instead of expecting it to be done for them….cut the benefits for those tax dodging….and here come the red thumbs!

Tax dogging ? Is that watching someone pay tax for thrills?

I assume these children were given an F for participation and their parents an NG for parenting and social responsibility?

It’s everybody’s fault except the travellers. It’s sad for those travellers trying to get on on life that so many of their own don’t care about their own community.

” … it is unlawful to discriminate against a traveller child’s right to attend a school on the basis of them being a traveller, but this is not so for a settled child.”

So.. it’s not illegal to discriminate against a settled child for being a Traveller?

What?

Very true, and many of the larger halting sites have on site primary school teachers!! In a north Dublin site, with over 15 families, the teacher often have only 2-3 children attending…parents would not even send their children for an education when it was on their door step!! When the teacher was taken due to the small numbers, there was uproar!!
No child “wants” to go to school, as parents, we all have regular morning tantrums and stress getting the kids to school!!
Again it’s the parents that are at fault…but of course it’s part of their culture and their ethinicity!!!!

Apparently they got a c for settled kids.

Likely it’s enforcement.

Traveller culture is an oxymoron!

http://www.hadd.ie/entitlements.htm indeed it appears to be true

Thanks for the backup batman! ….

What about children with special needs, learning difficulties, in families where there is unemployment?? They have all been affected by cuts!!
Because I’m “settled” do the cuts to education etc not affect my children?

As you said its the parents fault…no comments here discriminating their children? It’s traveller parents discriminating their own children by not giving them opportunities for a better future.

The parents must lead by example – or else it’s a never ending cycle of handouts.

Sorry, but I couldn’t read your post.
By the time I got to the end of your name I was exhausted…

When they respect the majority then the majority will respect them, simple really.
Don’t know what all the fuss is about?

Since when did rational observation become “blind hatred”? Seriously?

I completely agree Patricia. The intolerance and lack of compassion is sad and disappointing.

There is no discrimination in any of these comments, merely angry taxpayers stating facts

Are you missing the point?
Education is the key.
I don’t care what they call themselves, they have a duty of care towards their kids like everyone else.
Do you understand that these kids will be left little option in life.
An attitude like yours will only prolong the cycle.

Heard you the first time Patricia Ann etc etc etc

Patricia – your attitude of holding travellers to a lower standard than you would hold another member of society stinks quite frankly.

There is a school in the town and their parents can’t even make them attend. For once it not the governments fault.

Shane, get a few to move in next door to you, will soon hear you whistling a different tune.

Why should traveller children get special teachers? Where’s the equality in that?

The reason the teachers were taken from the sites is that children didn’t even attend!!!. These teachers were re-deployed to schools where parents made their children go to school!!

Well said, EU Auditor. But the bigots in this country are quite happy to go along with anything the Big Farmers and Big Business men in government do, as long as they can scapegoat travellers and single mothers. The travellers are the native people of this country, and the bigots came over here with Cromwell and took their land. That is why they hate the travellers. The travellers are a reminder to them that they are the original low lifes from the slums of Englands big cities. May the Lord deliver us from those Evil predators, is all I have to say.

Patricia, you really should get out more often.