I am actually shocked that fingal got a c….really??? The coco with the largest urban sprawl, and most building on green field sites….services built after estates…and sometimes not at all….’new’ villages built miles away from train stations…
I have to wonder wot was going on in longford and leitrim too, there are some obviously stupid planning decisions made there too…stupid to the point of suspicious.

Donegal is corrupt, there are houses built there that doest even have the correct planning permission. Buyer beware.

Give it a rest, Jesus. Do you ever sleep, eat, live, have a healthy life? Non stop whining. You will make yourself sick.

You must be joking toorkeel I’m having a ball! Days off aka “keep manners on your lot days” ;)

If this is your idea of having a ball, I suggest you go watch a funny movie, meet funny people or simply get out for a while. Thankfully your idea of having a ball and mine are very different thank god. You don’t need to “keep manners” on me as you put it. I think its “your lot” that need manners after having witnessed “your lots” violent behaviour at an otherwise peaceful protest last weekend in Galway

What are you talking about violent protests? Are you talking about when I torched the university? Or maybe it was all the cars I set alight on my walk back to the bus? Or maybe it was all the Gardaí I injured and sent to hospital?

No I reckon you’d want to get real. What happened in Galway does not constitute a violent protest. ;)

I’m nominating you as leader, when this imminent revolution begins Reada! I for one will follow you!!!

Of course Reada, I forgot you only see with one jaundiced eye. My apologies. The protesters in masks and balaclavas who decided to break through barriers, the ones who dragged a young Garda along the ground. The violent minority which you are obviously happy to support and maybe even lend a hand to. Not the vast majority who attended to protest peacefully. Your type won’t be happy until you have another Greece on your hands, widespread violence….be careful what you wish for! Your minority are not democratic, the exact opposite in fact. That’s why thankfully you are a small minority and will remain so.

Man up toorkeel. Man up! The only Garda I saw on the ground was being helped up by a protester. The Gardaí would want to start thinking about who they’re meant to be protecting. I told them to go in and arrest Eamon Gilmore. Politely, of course!

Mike. It will have to be a bloodless Revolution on our part anyway. I’m a pacifist and won’t kill anyone. Toorkeel likes to test my patience but he’s safe as houses! Perhaps an unfortunate analogy given our current situation but I promise I won’t hurt him! ;)

#IrishRevolution

Wierd comeback and quite an odd statement but anyway Reada. It’s not about manning up, you obviously have zero respect for the law, that’s pretty obvious and have no problem with back slapping violence, that’s your look out. Considering your apparent family tree of Gardai, your viewpoint is strange…

If I hadn’t seen and heard what I did I’d still be a fool too. Don’t worry about it toorkeel.

It’s only a kip!

Gavin knows what he’s talking about. He rescued one and brought her to the big smoke. :)

Gavin that comment is beyond offensive. If you were talking about travellers or black people it wouldn’t be tolerated, but somehow you think it’s OK to make horrible stereotyping remarks like that about rural dwellers?

get off your hobby horse! – the results used independent data sources. Park your bias and read it.

You are spot on.

If a tourist wants to see real unspoilt Irish countryside go to Northern Ireland.

If they wan’t to go bungalow spotting…go to the west coast. This is why tourism is dying a death in these areas.

The day we depend on tourism to decide where to live is the day I’ll let ye call my country Ireland Inc (Yuck!)!

This country used to be covered in houses. The housing Market that brought this country to its knees wasn’t one off housing in the country – it was developers with politicians in their pockets!

@ Reada Obviously never been to Cavan so…..

Being an objector to a property tax I take it you probably favour irrisponsible planning as a source of council income?

yes Reada the country used to be covered with mud thatched cottages with people living in dire poverty, squalour and worked the land..they didnt live in 250 sq. m houses, with 2 cars, washing machines, dish washers, broadband, telephone, ambulance, fire brigade, paved roads, postal services, bin collection..etc etc

apples and oranges

” traditional Irish settlement pattern’?

You mean ‘clachans’? Groups of 30-40 houses or did you mean something else? E.E Evans study of 19th century settlement patterns in Donegal found that “the single isolated farm is a relatively recent form of settlement”

Studies of Irish Rural Settlement, James H. Johnson, Geographical Review, Vol. 48, No. 4 (Oct., 1958)

Or did you mean scullogs? ‘Nicholas Taaffe, writing in 1766 (and primed by Charles O’Conor of Belanagare in the middle of the grazing county of Roscommon) also lamented the decline of the ‘scullogs’: – communities of industrious housekeepers who in my own time herded together in large villages and cultivated the lands everywhere,

Settlement in eighteenth-century ireland ed Terry Barry, Routledge 2000

So what “traditional Irish settlement pattern” should An Taisce have in thier vison? 18th Century, 19th Century or 20th Century bungalow blight?

Well Richard I’m open for debate.

I get the feeling though, that because you refer to 18th Century bungalow blight, that you don’t much like us and how we live, and how our forefathers lived.

A highland-type clearance would be in order, I suppose.

Hi Páid planning and settlement patterns should be based on social needs and the behaviour of the population and should take environmental and especially landscape protectino into account. We should base planning on “tradition”. Why should the settlement patterns of the neoltihic Ceide fields be used as a model for 21st century planning?

I have no problem with someone living in the countryside if they live and work there. I do have a problem with the speculation that alot of farmers were taking part in the last 10 years, by selling sites for profit. We now see the consequences of this all over the irish countryside but particularly on the western seaboard. Alot of people living in one off houses drive to work, often long distances to towns and cities and need to drive to schools and shops. The provision of rural public transport is alot more expensive when people are dispersed here, there and everywhere as opposed in more centralised clusters in towns, villages or hamlets. It is more expensive to supply all sorts of goods and services with this dispersed settlement pattern. The countryside had alot of people living there in the past as there was more jobs in agricultural labour. The mechanization of agriculture has done away with alot this work and people left. There are of course other reasons for the exodus too.

I would disagree strongly that the strips of houses and giant one off houses is a “traditional settlement pattern” but one of the last 10 development mad years.

Apologies my comment should have read “We should not base planning on “tradition””.