And create jobs.

Cronyism of the worst sort. Hogan downgrades Waterford City, the south-easts oldest & biggest city to save a few Million but finds it in his budget to throw 5.5 million into the town of Kilkenny. Walk a mile from anywhere there & you’ll be in countryside. Absolute example of the worst in Irish politics. Makes the Healy Raes look subtle.

Waterford may be old and big, but it is not the sort of place tourists want to go. Can’t put lipstick on a pig.
Kilkenny makes sense.

Kilkenny is a “City” City for over 400 years since the granting of city status in 1609. There is a rumour out there we’re a town but that’s just silly ;0). But seriously there is a lot of under exploited history in the city, we have no museum or heritage centre to speak of. In fairness Waterford is Beautiful- services by a few museums/ heritage centres, the quays and the parks are lovely etc. Kilkenny’s history is really under-supported for years and this investment will bring jobs to the “city” but also more Tourists to the entire region.

Waterford is a beautiful city and attracts many thousands of visitors every year. So it’s safe to say there are plenty of people who beg to differ with you there.
There is far more to do in Waterford. You can walk from one end of Kilkenny to the other in about 5 minutes.

Don’t get me wrong they have a beautiful castle and the grounds around it are lovely. But there is just as much history in Waterford if not more .

Reginald’s Tower, nobody has downgraded Waterford City status at all and there’s been no factual proof given by anyone to show that the government is doing this

This isn’t some plan against Waterford, both Limerick City and County councils and Waterford City and County Councils are being merged to save money. Off hand I believe Carlow and Kilkenny councils are being merged as well.

Its about cost saving and it makes an awful lot of sense.

Seems the government is damned if it does and damned if it doesn’t on one hand we have a massive amount of overlapping positions in a city and county council in the one county and its a waste and if the government tries to do anything about it then you bitch and moan.

Kilkenny has done well from tourism and its very important to the local economy, it would be foolish not to invest in it. Would you not agree?

Perhaps Waterford should have learned from this sooner……., it has lots of history but for decades it just depended on the Waterford glass to bring people into the city…..its only in recent years Waterford started investing properly into the whole Viking Triangle thing.

Lets not forget that Waterford is getting 1.9million this year towards its Viking Triangle, the same Triangle that got 9million back in 2010 while this country was still in trouble money wise.

Handy you forgot that Waterford has got alot of funding recently for tourism, but yet because alot of people in Waterford appear to have an chip on their shoulders about Kilkenny City you moan about Kilkenny City getting funding.

Under the local government act 2001 there are five cities Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Dublin. Likening is allowed to use the term city but it is in fact a town.
( have a look at the sign on the way into Kilkenny by the car garages TIDY TPWN WINNER, also I should point out you have a town hall not a city hall)

Kilkenny is a nice place I’m not disputing that fact but the issue here is a minister abiding his power and trying to over develop a town and get everything he can for it while taking from others. Galway was lire more then a town 30 years ago and look at it now this is exactly what phil hogan is trying to do in Kilkenny but at the expense of Waterford

Karen Bolger, I’d agree Waterford does have history but it has neglected it for decades and its only since around 2009 that they started to invest in anything other then “the glass”.

Bottom line is the numbers speak for themselves, Waterford is no where near as popular as a tourist destination compared to Kilkenny and its not as popular with the locals in Ireland either….Kilkenny is much better known for nights out.

As for your silly comment that you could walk from one side of the city to the other in 5min,

Well thats nonsense, limit to limit…so hotel kilkenny to castlecomer road is a good 1hour walk, to compare Waterford is 59min walk from the cork road citylimit sign to just across where the citylimit sign is at the train station beside Mount Misery.

now your just trying to belittle another city that you have a chip on your shoulder about, very chidlish,

This is part of the same initiative by government that saw Waterford receive funding. We have received funding very recently for Viking Triangle in Waterford, as we did back in 2010. Both Kilkenny and Waterford have a huge unexploited tourism market in terms of both great cities history and the government and local committees are doing wonders to promote both as great historic destinations. So to say that the government and/or Phil is looking after his own back yard only is very unfair.

Waterford was not ‘downgraded’ as a City either, despite popular outcry.

You firmly have your FG hat on there Sully, everybody knows your loyalty is to FG first & anything is well behind. Karen is 100% right. The local government act states that Ireland has 5 cities, FG but more especially Labour are actively trying to downgrade Waterford & Limerick cities.

Waterford has Tramore :)

Nailing your cards to your fg hat there boy. Ask your boys what they intend to do with waterford regional hospital. We’re being hung out to dry down here but obviously party policy is the trump card

Barry you’ll note I said you could walk from one end of the town to the other in about 5 minutes.. I.e. Patrick street to parliament street or Patrick street up to macdonagh (that may take about 7 mins)
I’m not trying to belittle another town and far from a chip on my shoulder I have about Kilkenny. I spend 5 days a week driving to and from it for work. I have already said it is a lovely place so don’t start putting words in my mouth.

I am simply sick and tired of the City I was born and raised in being neglected the way it is. Little by little they are tearing us apart.

I see the usual suspects are on supporting there parties and saying this will also benefit Waterford. Frankly I can’t see how it will. Although Waterford might only be down the road people aren’t going to spend there time doing the tourist stuff in KK then want to travel onto Waterford.
It’s just going to isolate Waterford even further.

Pretty town, with a castle that isn’t nearly as nice as Trim, Lismore or Malahide. It’s a bit like Blarney, a victory for marketing. Waterford has far more to offer tourists than Kilkenny.

Well then you might want to invest few bobs in Carlow because there is not much for tourist to see there

What did Martin Cullen do for waterford exactly?

Ye’re the most boring bunch. Nothing to talk about except hurling.

Not from either but Reginald’s, your well bitter. Boo hoo….

This is part of the same initiative by government that saw Waterford receive funding. We have received funding very recently for Viking Triangle in Waterford, as we did back in 2010. Both Kilkenny and Waterford have a huge unexploited tourism market in terms of both great cities history and the government and local committees are doing wonders to promote both as great historic destinations. So to say that the government and/or Phil is looking after his own back yard only is very unfair.

Tourism is what will help get this country back on its feet and we should be welcoming any such funding.

Kevin it seems to be the policy line your towing there seen as you have repeated yourself umpteen times. Once would have been enough we can all read you know.

It’s not begrudges ray I just think there are other places (not just Waterford ) that could do with the funding. As already pointed out its already bustling with tourists.
In fairness Waterford has been hammered recently and a big part of the reason we got the finding was the closure of the glass factory and the relocating into the city centre to help
Us keep what tourists we had.

Ye all seem to think I’m bitter about Kilkenny but if you bother to read I actually work here on a daily basis and have pointed out that it is a lovely place . Very we’ll
Maintained and presented. I just don’t see where the €15 million is going to go. Since I started working up here there has been a lot of work done around the castle area already.

Waterford got funding recently and in 2010. So no, not really.

Did some fella from Kilkenny steal your lack Reggie

I think your spelling & grammar says all anybody needs to know about you John. Facts are facts.

sorry seems like good old fashioned begrudgery.

Karen, what about the 1.9million that Waterford is getting this year for Tourism and the 9million it got in 2010 for tourism when the country was broke?

I have to agree with Mick here, seems like good old fashioned begrudgery..

Would you prefer that other area’s in the South Easy are ignored and that Waterford gets all the funding…would take make you happy?

Karen; This is part of the same initiative by government that saw Waterford receive funding. We have received funding very recently for Viking Triangle in Waterford, as we did back in 2010. Both Kilkenny and Waterford have a huge unexploited tourism market in terms of both great cities history and the government and local committees are doing wonders to promote both as great historic destinations. So to say that the government and/or Phil is looking after his own back yard only is very unfair.

Tourism is what will help get this country back on its feet and we should be welcoming any such funding.

if people go to Kilkenny, its only a short hop down the road to Waterford. it might entice more people to the whole region, including Waterford.

well to be fare he wont get many votes in the lovely Waterford City wood he now.

Yep,

Because Mayo has got so much over the years from previous governments that the streets there are now paved with gold. Also I hear the taoiseach wants to build the Enda Kenny bowl out there in foxford because there’s such an excess of cash going into the county.
Plus there’s news of some big spire thing being built in Ballina. Sure why would people emigrate when Mayo has ‘won the lottery’?

It wasn’t big Phil that drew the balance for a start, but I am sure his influenced help. Since you are so bitter about the grant that Kilkenny got, I assume you will be calling on Waterford City Council to hand back the recent grant and the past grants they got for the Viking Triangle in the City?

Money that is being wasted needs to be cut. That means there is more money that can be spent elsewhere including tourism. Hence why nearly 10bn in the past year has been given to Waterford and Kilkenny to help improve both great historical cities and offer more for tourists helping the economy.

Its that very attitude from a select group down in Waterford, a City that I am from and very proud to be from, that is why its dubbed the ‘forgotten City’ and neglected by the IDA and so on. Some want it all and none for anyone else. Waterford got their funds and now that Kilkenny get theirs, the Waterford folk are up in arms.

The constant negativity is killing Waterford. Not Big Phil and his sometimes daft implementations of daft policies and looking after his very own electorate while he is at it. We had our day of Parish Pump Politics in Waterford and there wasn’t much complaining. Many are calling for the exact same from our local TDs now.

The best thing in Waterford is the road to Kilkenny

Um you do sound like a begrudger just like Reginald and all the other Kilkenny bashers on here , go away and get a life the lot of ye .

@ starry eyed . Without sounding like a begrudger is your opening line and then u start begrudging reminds me of Ricky bobby when he starts with , with all due respect and then disrespects its comical have you read back that comment to yourself .