What legroom? if your over a certain height, legroom is non existent, unless you upgrade.

To America or Australia?

Yeah and nobody will say that they do mind, but will be thinking “bollix”! Unfair question to ask

I find the other way around works too : “Excuse me, would you mind not reclining your seat, I’m somewhat of an awkward giant and my knees are hurting as it is.”.

Said nobody ever

I think I know that guy. He’s been on every bus & plane I’ve ever been on, and at every event Ive attended

Does height have anything to do with it? It doesn’t actually increase your legroom.

It’s called Knee Defender, so I would imagine its a factor. :)

But then again, a less height challenged individual would be able to answer.

As for whether they should or should not be allowed. I can’t don’t really know.

Stacks, I’m 6’4″ and believe me, it does. When I sit down on most aeroplanes my knees are generally already pressed against some part of the seat in front of me, and if the person in front decides to recline their seat it puts a lot of extra pressure on them. I’m kind of loath to say anything to the person in front of me as it’s within their rights to do so, but if it were an exceptionally long flight and I had no option to swap seats with someone, I may be inclined to say something.

6’8″ here :D
Exit seats are always a must :)

I’m 6’4 and Ive used my knees to prevent people from reclining to lie in my lap before. The fact that I can do that tells you how much room we have

You people are freakish giants! You should form some kind of posse

I’m a mere 6’1″ and my knees are already planted against the seat infront. Either that or against the actual hinges. Jasus I can only imagine being 6’8″ your knee must be side the lads ear in front..

Agreed and limbo in and out to toilets adds to the entertainment …..

That person has paid for the use of the seat so should be able to recline if the seat is designed to recline .

I’ve had the luxury of being on a plane that can do that…. It’s just Ryanair quality for me…..

Meant to say “Ive NEVER HAD”
Too early for me to be posting comments…..

Now that I know about it if it happened to me I’d just pull them off. Who do you think the hostess would side with?

Now that I know about it if it happened to me I’d just pull them off. Who do you think the hostess would side with?

@terry you might be very popular. http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/gf-general-forum/96498-cork-96fm-radio-dj-caught-wanking-plane.html

I don’t understand this. Is Robert saying that he would not recline his own seat even once, on a 12 hour flight?
I find that hard to believe.

Ive flown around the world many times and up until recently all of those flights were in economy class. Legroom is at a premium so IF my seat allowed me to recline i feel im fully within my right – as are those in front of me to choose to do so!

The audacity of those believing its perfectly fine to interfere with another passenger’s seat is simply staggering!

If someone behind me used one of these devices i would have no hesitation drawing it to the attention of a flight attendent. Whats next!? Its ok for others to rearrage or move your cabin luggage to suit themselves??

Oh and some simple remedies to your problem of the recliner in front…
a) dont fly economy b) pay that little bit more for a seat by the exit or c) recline yourself!

I doubt most airlines would even let you interfere with the plane in anyway. So just report it and they’ll be more than likely be removed.

I’ve done long flights without reclining my seat purely out of courtesy to the person behind, I’m 6,2 and you don’t hear me complaining about sitting up!!

@Gerry, I would not recline my seat on a 12 hour flight unless it was night and was sleeping in which case I beleve it is acceptable to recline your chair. @Alan most of using economy are there because we can’t afford business class. Therefore I beleve we should all help each other have as comfortable a flight as possible. Obviously you have a right to recline your chair but there are many things in life I’m within my rights to do but don’t out of consideration.

You can sit upright all you want but if I’m trying to sleep or even just relax that seat is going back.

So true. I had a huge guy push his seat back so far, I couldn’t even see the screen..twelve hours from Brisbane!

@Terry does it genuinely not bother you that you are making an already uncomfortable experience even more so for somebody just so you can “relax”?

Stand up and stretch your legs every five minutes, grab the top of the seat in front to leverage yourself up, if there is a complaint, apologise and say that, with the seat reclined, you need to stretch your legs the airline has not provided you with enough space to get up without using the seat in front as a lever. If it doesn’t work, at least the inconsiderate SOB has just as bad a flight as you.

As soon as the guys seat in front of me goes back…so does mine, they recline for a reason….politeness gone mad!

@ robert why should he feel bothered? It was ur choice for flying, ur choice for booking economy, ur choice for not selecting an exit seat and ur choice for not reclining yourself!

This is utter lunacy. Its entirely up to the discretion of each passenger if and how much they want to recline. Whatever decision they make they should never feel any guilt or shame utilising a basic function on their seat! It is their seat after all isn’t it?

its commendale how considerate you are (overly imo) but based off my experiences and the results above, you are very much in the minority

Not in the slightest. Why should I be uncomfortable? If you asked I would definitely put it up half way but why I would sit on a plane for 12 hours with my back as straight as a pencil just because a tall person wouldn’t pay a bit extra for an exit seat?

I’m 6’6″ and I book the exit seats when possible. But they are the first seats to be booked on flights and a lot of the time occupied by people of average height or smaller. The person in front of me is entitled to recline their seat of course, but I’m not going to make myself even more uncomfortable trying to keep my legs out of the way. The passenger in front I’d going to have to put up with two knees sticking into their back.

I wish someone like Terry was sitting in front of me. I can’t help it, if walking past him, I accidentally spilt my drink all over him. I suppose I should be more careful, seeing as its happened me before.

If you done that I’d probably know if you done it on purpose and then I’d make your life hell for the rest of the flight. Ill take it you’re a bit of a coward because that’s exactly what one would do and then shriek like a little girl that was all an accident if confronted about it.

Shane. I’ve tried that on many flights but after an hour or so I’d notice the person behind has reclined their seat. Those who prefer the use of this gadget would more than likely be the one to claim the extra arm rest.

Or as your being served drinks, twice now I’ve had the seat in front kick back on me as I had just received my coffee and the other time a glass of red wine. Hot tea down my lap and a wet table and a reclined chair in my face. I was raging.
Courtesy would go a long way or even a heads up!

You can’t reason with the argument of ‘im fully entitled to recline’ they are, and once a person has that complete self serving attitude to recline 100% of the way, its not politeness gone mad its common courtesy. I will rarely ever recline 100% of the way. The times I do is when I see the person behind has done it, or they’re of a shorter nature. But realistically il have to get out of my seat quite often if the one infront is fully reclined and using the back of that seat is the only possible leverage to do that. The best way I deal is to sit in an isle seat gives you that bit more leg room.

Do you recline your seat on a plane?

Wish I had it on a train from Cairns for Brisbane (33 hours). This young lad reclined his seat so far back I couldn’t even get out of mine. I asked him to move it up a little and he told me to F off. Eventually I leaned over, hit the button and rammed him forward and put the seat further up than it should be. Had my feet against it so he couldn’t straighten it. He turned around and asked me to let him sit back and I told him to F off. Gave him a couple of minutes and told him he can sit normally if he wants but if he reclines again I’ll throw him out of the seat altogether. It worked! :)

Or stop being such a passive-aggressive tit and just ask the person in front to raise their seat.

Lazy journalism!!!

Pity there’s no way to shut up grumpy old bastards too.

They should have it sectioned off and soundproofed like they have in churches.

Kids on flights are ok when the parents are in control but irish parents generally are not cos there crap at parenting.

No child will be we’ll behaved for a full 12 hour flight, and its not fair to expect it. Irish parents are just as good as any others. I suspect that you have just been on proportionally more flights with Irish children than with kids from other countries.

Obviously Frank was a Saint when he was born and throughout his childhood!

@itiswhatitis They’re meeting their friends over there. Seriously, it’s not rocket science.

Lern too spel !!

It’s a sad indictment of this world/country when kids/old people/sick/mentally unwell should be got out if the way so that others can enjoy their lives. I know I will ne accused of over analysis but that’s how things are going. People too busy/stressed to have patience with others.

Kids are going to naturally be a bit noisier than other people on flights, and that’s life, we were all kids once. However, that doesn’t give parents the right to sit back and sleep/watch a movie while their kids run amok and make as much noise as they like. I’ve seen more well behaved kids than badly behaved ones on flights, and it’s totally up to the parents.

Have you tried draping your legs over the headrest in front?

Plenty of room. :)

I often need to work up to 20 hours straight the day before I travel on holidays, I get to the airport straight from work and meet my other half there with the luggage.

So I am in your eyes inconsiderate as I recline my seat to try to sleep before my holidays?

I can’t sleep sitting up and if I did I would be crippled over with neck pains afterwards.

Cannot see any sense in your argument whatsoever

I think you’re proving my point perfectly, you put your own well being & comfort above someone else’s. Because you are a selfish person! The person behind you may too have finished a 40 hour shift and in need of rest, their life might be in grave turmoil, but do you ever think of this? I doubt it, cause you’re too busy thinking about yourself.

Sounds an awful lot like a tax on height to be honest…

People wouldn’t need to use it against me because I wouldn’t be inconsiderate enough to shove my chair in there face! It is however acceptable if it is a night flight and people are sleeping.

Why do you get to decide when its acceptable for someone else to sleep?

@ yes robert why do you feel solely qualified for judging what is acceptable or not? You do realise that not everyone gets the oppurtunity to sleep during the night dont you? why shouldnt a fireman, air traffic controller or a doctor who have toiled all night not be able to recline to improve their chances or quality of rest? Are they subject to ur judgement?

Are they the ones inconsiderate or you?

I never said I should decide when someone should sleep. I have repeatedly said that if someone was sleeping it wouldn’t bother me. I happened to be on a long haul flight recently, Singapore to Helsinki. During the flight the while I was watching a movie the guy in front reclined his chair to the point my screen was 3 inches from my face and his chair was almost on top of me and he wasn’t even lying back, still sitting upright! This made the flight considerably more uncomfortable and watch the movie almost impossible. Personaly I wouldn’t want to intentionally make someone that uncomfortable. I don’t beleve this to be politeness gone mad and beleve that most decent people would agree with me.

Don’t fly Ryanair if you don’t like them. Simple.

@Daithi, you’re right, I don’t. I did try them a few years ago and still carry the trauma…
Thus, as a service to the public, I remind everyone who’d listen how bad Ryanair are.

If you don’t like my comments, just move on and don’t read them. Simple.

@dublincylisit, I once had a bloke on a pushbike cycle at speed through a pedestrian crossing just as I was crossing, dreadful experience since that day I too pass on my experience for the safety of the public, you might have met me on the roads I’m the Guy shouting out safety /abuse at cyclists who use footpaths, ignore red lights, under take on the left when no cycle lane. Swings and roundabouts.

@Mack there are plenty of selfish ignorant cyclists out there. After all they’re drawn from the general population…
Anyhow, you’d probably want to have a look at the safety category in Dublin’s Cyclists: http://dublincyclists.blogspot.ie/search/label/safety
You can shout at the screen as much you want…

@Dublin cyclists, get off your high Nellie re-read your first comments you called a company shitty yet your next comment said you have only flown with them once, my comment is a piss take using one small problem / case to taint my outlook on everything to do with them. I do believe your a cyclists by choice as it allows you to give out to all drivers.

I’m also a Dublin Cyclist but I didn’t realise someone was so up their own arse that they would take the title for themselves. As far as Ryanair, I would not fly with them if I had an alternative, but I still admire what they have done in the Aviation Industry, even if that admiration is waning more and more as time goes on.

@Mack believe it or not, I realised your intentions before I wrote my previous response. Witty and sophisticated, you’re not. I simply invited you to shout somewhere else.

So I understand you’re a passionate loyal customer of Ryanair. Good for you. Even better for people like me. As long as there enough people who fly Ryanair, other companies keep their price low while the service (and seats) is superior.

@Gerry Healy, I’m glad you’re cyclist. Well done! The twitter username is a choice purely based on the blog’s name, which presents pictures of cyclists in Dublin (hence Dublin’s Cyclists). This, BTW, never includes your humble servant.

I love Ryanair.

Ok let’s never moan about anything or attempt to improve anything in our country or lives ever again until there are no starving people in the world!

How’s that hi-tech device for accessing the internet working out for you Sean?
Wonder how many starving people that could feed?

Sean id say you’re great craic to be around the life and sole of a party