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“Meaningless” vaccination certs can spell danger for puppies

Vet Pete Wedderburn has publicised Leo the Shih Tzu’s (pictured) battle for life to show how meaningless vaccination certs could even lead to puppies being euthanised.

Leo the puppy, who is now on the mend
Leo the puppy, who is now on the mend
Image: Pete Wedderburn via Facebook

THE STORY OF a very ill puppy has helped to warn people of the dangers when taking in a new pet, a leading Irish vet has said.

Pete Wedderburn, a veterinarian at Bray Vet who also appears on TV3 and writes a newspaper column, spoke to TheJournal.ie about the story of Leo, an eight-week-old Shih Tzu who was recently brought into his practice.

Leo

Over the past three days, Wedderburn has used his Pete the Vet Facebook page to spread Leo’s story and show how people who buy puppies need to be aware of the issues around vaccination.

“What was unusual here was that normally the work that a vet does with an animal is confidential between them and the owners,” explained Wedderburn.fwedderbu

And especially in a difficult and emotional time the last thing you want to do is to make a public exposure of what can be very stressing. But at the same time there are lessons that can be learnt from situations like this. In this situation I put it to the owners that I would treat their puppy and do everything for it for a special price and in return they would agree to let me use his case to publicise the issues.

Describing it as “very challenging because it was real life in real time”, Wedderburn cared for the dog – who he said was dying when it arrived at the clinic – and posted regular updates on the Facebook page.

Around 10,000 people have viewed each photo of the tiny Shih Tzu and watched as his condition changed.

Potential of life

Wedderburn said he didn’t know if the dog would survive, and wanted to publicise the case as it is something he sees around every three months at his practice.

It’s the usual thing. The little puppy has the potential of a long and wonderful life, only it’s extremely ill and you know that it’s going to cost somewhere up to €1000 to do everything for the puppy; yet if you do that it is going to give the puppy the most possible chance of survival but there is a risk it will die.

He said that most people do not have that money to hand and despite their best intentions will just walk away and leave the vet with a big bill.

“When you have a few experiences like that, [vets] stop believing people,” Wedderburn explained, which has led to vets asking for such payment upfront.

Vaccination

Wedderburn said that “the last thing you want to do is euthanise a puppy”, but this was the only thing that Leo’s owners could afford.

“Around the country there are many people like that,” he said. Instead, he struck a deal with the owners that they would pay €200 up front and he would do everything possible to save the puppy’s life – while informing people of the situation.

“Some people on the Facebook page have been blaming the breeder,” he said.

But it’s not nearly as simple as that. I’m not sure what the puppy had – it probably was parvovirus but the test to determine that is €40 – 50. If  it was parvovirus it can can certainly be prevented by making sure puppies are properly vaccinated and aren’t let out at all until they have had vaccinations.

Leo’s owner was given a vaccination cert – but crucial information was missing.

It wasn’t signed by a vet and it didn’t even have the details of the puppy. It was a meaningless certificate. Vaccinations have to be handled very carefully. Breeders do sometimes give them themselves, but if a vaccination is left out on a car dashboard or put in deep freeze it can be destroyed. If a vaccination cert isn’t stamped and signed by a vet and doesn’t have all the details of this individual animal or some ID then you don’t know that puppy’s had that vaccination.

He said that he sees cases like this – where meaningless vaccination certs are given to owners – every week. “It’s very, very common.”

Because of this, Wedderburn directs pet owners to the Love My Pet site, which discusses the lessons that can be learned from the episode.

Getting better

Despite Leo’s harrowing weekend, where he required a blood transfusion and nearly died twice, the pup is on the mend. “Thank goodness he is doing really well,” said a relieved Wedderburn.

Normally a puppy would go into an emergency clinic, but they would have to be paid upfront. So instead, he provided a ‘gold standard’ of care and even gave up his weekend to be by the pup’s side.

“It’s not ideal but meant I was able to be there myself,” said Wedderburn, calling the last 48 hours “quite dramatic stuff”.

Message

With thousands of people captivated by Leo’s story of survival, Wedderburn hopes that people realise that this is not an isolated case, and can happen to anyone who buys a puppy.

It’s difficult on many different levels. If somebody asked me to euthanise a puppy I would find that very hard to do that when I know there are things that can be done to save its life. It’s the last thing I would want to do and I would walk away from work feeling quietly devastated.

He encourages new owners to take out insurance so that if it does occur to them, the costs will be covered.

Wedderburn described the level of interest as “really unexpected” but was glad that it grasped people’s attention, particularly as it was a “real time” incident.

“This really happens across the clinics. We don’t talk about it much because of confidentiality issues,” said the vet, saying that it is good to be able to use these situations to help educate owners.

In this case at least, it looks like there will be a happy ending – “but there are plenty where there’s not a happy ending”, cautioned Wedderburn.

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  • Arrival

    Leo when he first arrived - a very sick dog on the brink of death.
  • Semi-conscious

    Leo while semi-conscious, with white gums and severe anaemia.
  • IV

    Leo after three hours on an IV and medication.
  • Blood transfusion

    Leo while having a blood transfusion.
  • After blood transfusion

    Leo after his blood transfusion - not passing blood but not eating.
  • On the mend

    Leo eats his first meal after being ill - chicken and yogurt
  • Vaccination certificate

    One side of the 'meaningless' certificate.
  • Vaccination certificate

    The vaccination cert - which doesn't contain a vet's signature or identifying details for Leo the dog.

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Comments (30 Comments)

  • The poor mite. Glad he is on the mend. Hopefully his story will help educate potential pet owners. You can’t be too careful, check the authenticity of ALL paperwork.

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  • I have been following this storey all weekend on Facebook,Pete was on his weekend off but gave up his time to care for this little dog even during the night,he should be applauded for sharing and highlighting this case in the hope it will make a difference to some people’s thinking…

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    • Yes fair play to Pete for highlighting this issue. This story really strikes a chord with me because my family lost two gorgeous Shih Tzu’s only recently, one was 16 years old and the other was 18. My own Shih Tzu is only two but he is already a family member and the thought of someone having to let a puppy go because the treatment is so expensive is heartbreaking.

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  • Hopefully some people get the message here.Fair play to Pete for saving Leo’s life.

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  • troll or idiot, always first in

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  • Pet insurance is worth taking out too

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    • Yup I have it. Covers all visits, his physical, 2 xrays, certain bloodwork, teeth cleaning, vaccinations and 20% off regular rates for pills or other services needed.
      Course now I’m behind advised not to get the vaccinations as it could cause a condition he has to flare up.

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  • Same goes for cats too, they must be vaccinated and neutered, no excuses.
    Sad but common story . . .

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  • Tommy C 13/08/12 #

    If people got their pets from the SPCA, this wouldnt be an issue. Stop buying animals off breeders and get them from those who dont sell or breed them for profit.

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    • Yeah because dogs from the SPCA have super digs that never get sick. The pup in the article had it seems parvo which needs to be vaccinated against each year. Whether the pet was got from a breeder or the SPCA this would be the case.

      Plus one for pet insurance. It’s great and doesn’t cost that much. Got mine for €80 this year from tesco online.

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    • @Tommy C,

      I am a breeder of Leonberger dogs. That said, I have only produced 12 pups in 6.5 years, so i am a hobby breeder, only breeding when i want something to keep myself. I have spent somewhere in the region of €4,500 (approx) on health tests for my dogs (hips, elbow xrays, two separate eye tests, and a test for a genetic disorder) and whelping related issues so why wouldn’t I charge for a puppy? I have a vested interest in the health & welfare of my breed and I believe that the majority of dog breeders are exactly the same as me. That said, people must exercise caution when buying a puppy. There are breeders who are commercial breeders, who are in it for the money, there are puppy farmers who don’t give a damn about the dogs they breed. People need to use their loaves when buying a dog, to get the best of what’s out there as their pet. No one in their right mind would phone a car dealership and spend a significant amount of money without ‘doing their homework” but it is amazing how many people spend huge sums of money on a dog, have no idea of breed related health issues (all breeds have issues) or ‘do their homework’. In my humble opinion, it is a real case of buyer beware!

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    • Tommy C 14/08/12 #

      Garreth, ALL dogs that arrive at the SPCA kennels are kept in isolation kennels for weeks under teh watch of a vet. A geansai load of tests are done on these dogs before they are vaccinated, chipped and neutered so yeah, I guess you could say that their dogs are as Super as youre gonna find in the pet world.

      For every dog bought from a breeder, there are hundreds in SPCA kennels or pounds who need a home.
      Sinead, of course your dogs cost you money, thats the reality of having pets.
      The majority of pedigree dogs are suseptible to specific diseases. I had a king charles, she went blind. I had a pom, he got kidney cancer. Most of them are inbred so if you pay for a screen for genetic diseases, that was YOUR responsibility as a pet owner. As for the buyer beware statement, thats just a bad sales pitch on your behalf. SHows you really dont care about the ‘product’ you are selling.

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    • @Tommy,

      My buyer beware statement was regarding the need for people buying a puppy to have a critical thinking mind. People should come armed with questions to a breeder about health, temperament and welfare. People can get blindsided when they see puppies and not stop to think about the bigger more important issues.

      Yes it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to do health tests for those conditions that tests are available for but equally people buying a puppy should ask to see health results too and see the original certificates.

      And as for casting aspertions on my character regarding your ‘sales pitch’ comment, so tell me, how well do you know me to enable you to deduce such a thing? Surely you’re not basing your opinion of me on a few short lines and hiding behind the bravery of your computer in doling out your opinion?

      You have had pedigree dogs yourself, King Charles and Pom, so why are you down on breeders? Did you have a bad experience? Maybe you did, who knows, but don’t engage in deductive reasoning about me without having the appropriate support to back it up.

      You insinuate i see my dogs as a ”product’. Well if we continue that theme, a product is something that is sold, sell enough and you make a profit, make profit and the business expands, right? Having only 12 pups in 6.5 years, surely that isn’t great business acumen (I’m hardly flooding the market!) , so therefore I cannot fathom how you deduce I see my dogs as a product.

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  • Wish the breeder/seller could be named n shamed.

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  • People can be so careless and irresponsible when it come to puppies. Just rescued a beautiful Belgian shepherd cross and they said she was all vaccinated and running everywhere. Got her cert and there was only 2 completed!

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  • Buying dogs that are so over bred should be a crime
    its genetic manipulation causing most of these problems!

    My oldest dog [a mungral cross of a doberman/lab/spaniel] who recently died was a ripe old age of 22 i was obviously devastated! Never had a vacination since he was 8 weeks old was never sick untill the end.

    I don’t know why people think that certain features of a dog are cute when all i see is ugly freaks of nature with buldging eye’s and heads to small for their brains, completely useless unable to do anything alot of them untrainable!

    Toy dogs need to be banned!

    All dogs blood lines can be traced back to the wolf 90% of which to a particular group in the north of russia, that are still there today! True fact!! they manage to survive without vacinations, immune system is all natural.

    People come along and find a trait to be exploited in a particular animal and breed it till they end up turning a wolf into a lab or a pointer or a spaniel because breeding traits in dogs is so easy.

    Modern man finds certain traits cute, not of a hunting benifit or a working benifit but cute “seriously” this bit anoy’s the hell out of me, they take the cute and make it tiny by starving pups to stunt their growth by inbreeding them then with their stunted brothers and sisters till they get what is now not a dog but a product that they can charge huge sums of money for, that fit in someones bag that the small size makes them fit into our busy lives and are more a fashion statement than a dog so I blame ONE type of person!
    The people who want these “products/fashion” items because they are “cute” and not just a big old shaggy slobery fun ball who you can train to do anything and is of a size to do most tasks who will not have any of the illnesses or bred in defects that don’t need a special diet and have still some of their natural immune system left intact.

    I’m sorry to offend anyone but thats how I see it little toy dogs or even german shepards with their bad hips ect are a crulty on these “man”ipulated breeds anyone who BUY’s a certain breed with known genetic feck ups deserves a kick up the back side!
    Don’t buy a dog, give a dog a home all i see is FREE TO A GOOD HOME thats the dog you want! already saved yourself €300+whatever for price of breed and more because these are dogs are real dogs physically mentally better because they have more genes to choose from when developing!

    Needs to be laws on breeding because it has gone from being a tool to help with human life hunting working ect to what we have today a frankenstein like approach to beauty/”uglycute” new word hope you know what i mean!
    rant over soz ;p

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    • @Andy

      I agree totally when you say buying dogs that are overbred should be a crime but it is only in recent months that the dog breeding bill has been enacted into law after years of campaigning for legalisation. The Irish Kennel Club could have a very pivotal role to play in regards to managing overbreeding of dogs by refusing to register such dogs. Whilst this will not eliminate the problem, education for puppy buyers is another way also.

      To turn your point about genetic manipulation on its head; having genetic information about your dog enables conscientious breeders make very informed decisions regarding what dogs to use with regards to disease elimination going forward. If for example a dog has an inherited issue and is known to be affected ( two copies of the affected gene) then they should not be used as they will produce a percentage of affected dogs. However, if you use a dog that is clear of the condition with a dog that is a carrier, a percentage will be carriers and a percentage will be clear and no dogs will be affected. Over a few generations it is possible to eliminate conditions in dogs.

      Whilst toy dogs aren’t personally my thing, no doubt my favourite breed wouldn’t appeal to others. I get the loveable mutt thing too. I would argue that many of the dogs in shelters are mutts as people who spend large sums on pedigree dogs generally understand the investment it is and if they don’t, no breeder worth their salt should allow anyone to have a dog that isn’t prepared to invest what is required.

      There are very sad cases of breeders that have knowingly used dogs at stud and bred bitches that have congenital issues. These have been highlighted by various programmes on TV. Whilst they are extreme, I don’t believe it is representative of the norm. Many breeders are doing their best, being selective on what dogs they use, not using dogs with health issues, not seeing breed club guidelines as targets (e.g. A bitch only having a max of 3 litters in her life), there is nothing wrong with her having two and trying to increase genetic diversity in their breed.

      The Kennel club in Ireland needs to legislate to enforce good breeding practices which at this time they do not. Unlike the UK kennel club who do not charge extra to have endorsements (to protect health of breed) on the registration of a new litter, the KC here charges per endorsement per pup, which negates against promoting good breeding practices.

      Just my two cent worth.

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  • I’m in two minds about this. I’ve given first vaccinations myself to my own pups (17 years ago now ) I still have one of those pups myself. now after someone buys a dog its up to them to look after it. The people who took pups from me that time were responsible for looking after them then. I know of at least two that lived long and happy lives well cared for. My own dog has never seen a vet though. he may in the next few years as he’s old now. It is hard to see a pup get sick though.

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  • Oh, what papers does Pete write for?

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  • I would spend all i have to save my little shih tzu fuzzy :). So glad the wee dog is doing well its really angering when you read about people beating and abandoning dogs. Sick sick people

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  • There is also an untold story of the thousands of dogs that have to be put down each year, some of them also young dogs, because there are not enough owners. So if we really care about dogs we will not be buying from breeders (thus causing even more dogs to be born) while there are still so many dogs in shelters who will never get a loving home. Why not get over the need for a pedigree dog – you may be able to find one in a shelter anyway, and there is something unsavoury to me about that financial transaction, somebody breeding dogs for profit.

    Our little (rescue) doggie was also featured in an article in the newspaper with Pete years back asking people not to buy dogs that have had their tails docked, or not to get their tails docked because it is basically an amputation and their tails are a major means of expression for them.

    I would love to see a move away from sentimentality towards really caring about animals in this country – we need to think more about the happiness of the animal if we wish to be its keeper and, for some animals, whether it is the kind of animal that should be kept in unnatural captivity for our pleasure at all – birds are the most obvious case, but what about rabbits and other little furry mammals??? And what about the miserable farm animals like the lovely pigs who never see daylight and live tightly packed in miserable concrete buildings – which is how nearly all of our pigs are raised in this country???

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  • Sometimes the antibodies passed from mother to pup can destroy any vaccinations. Also the behaviour problems that can occur caused by lack of proper socialisation can cause a dog to be euthanised. The first 12 weeks of a pups life are crucial for learning how to behave with other dogs. If a pup doesn’t meet another dog for 12 weeks this is asking for trouble.

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  • Thank you Pete the Vet for showing true Humanitarism towards that little Angel.. These Dog owners are clueless and dangerous to these defenseless animals and they should be banned from owning an Animal again in the future for displaying this reckless abandonment towards a little puppy who does not have a say in whether he lives or dies. Pete should start a fund where people can donate money to be used when these situations arise. I’ll be glad to send a donation towards the fund and make these disgusting people accountable for their actions!!!!

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  • Why didn’t he treat the pup for free if he was that concerned? Sure that vet is loaded.

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  • A thousand euro to save a dog . that 1000 would save hundreds of children in Africa which is more important . Fair play to the vet and well done

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