We deserve the same deal as Spain. We’ve played ball long enough and took the hit for europes banks.

Every cent needs taking off the sovereign and nothing less is acceptable.

Why is there even negotiations?

You add up all it cost us to save European banks and write us a cheque and take the equity/assets where necessary.
Nothing other than this is acceptable.
No negotiation Noonan, Hold the line;
EQUAL TREATMENT RETROACTIVELY.

Even worse than lying their way into power is the constant insults to our intelligence. They take credit for ‘negotiating ‘ the interst rate reduction that was given to us automatically on foot of the easing of repayment terms to Greece, and now they’re ‘negotiating’ a deal on bank debt that only materialised thanks to spain and italy acting in it’s citizenms interests and digging their heels in on the issue of bank recapitalisation.

Still trying to find the right way to do the wrong thing, force us to repay other peoples debts. There is no acceptable, just way to do such a thing.

I just wish I had some faith in Noonan, Hayes and co to have the balls to do what is right. They have let us down too many times by accepting whatever Europe decides to give us rather than put up a fight to get us what we deserve & what we are due.

treat the electorate like mushrooms etc…in the dark and fed horse shit..

Its bad enough that Laurel and Hardy will be over there negociating for us but whats more worrying is that its taken Merkel and the other European Leaders over 4 years to realise that loading a country with banking debt and crippling then with austerity was the wrong way to go. The man in the street with a basic grasp of economics has been advocating the opposite for quite some time.

Private for or from whom. In private from the people who pay back the bond holders or in private from the bond holders.definately not in private from the Germans.they can’t keep a secret.

They did not negotiate the deal it was super mario and don juan that told merkel what the story was. nGood news IF it comes down the road but dont take credit for piggy backing some bodies superior negotiating skill

Wonder how many FG people have been instructed to follow sites like this to push their own agenda?

noonan wouldnt be able to barter in a fruit market

In private with no plan.

This is all spin,the ESM only lends money at an interest rate,so we are not getting a present but a loan,which will have to be paid back.
Also the ESM is funded by the taxpayers of the EU so we are still supporting these defunct and corrupt banks

Sure why would you tell the plebs who have to pay for bankers and bondholders gambling debts anything? God forbid we’d be kept informed about what the so called powers that be plan!

i actually cannot comprehend the fiasco of this situation.. personally speaking i dont any of them deserve the wages their own considering the bloody mess they made, and also theyre good shafting the blame on previous leading parties when they all knew about it on the high bloody salaries..

i mean well organised and suits the top dogs..

Naturally. All negotiations should be done in private. No brainier.

where is the transparancy on this? considering the mess the country is in and their doing deals to what get the best financial outcome, its a little suspicious considering the amount of debts we have and also the rates on the loans.. how do the people get their say if the government wont share with the voters on whats being done in the name of the public. ???

Spain and Italy did it in public and it only took a couple of days.

…best done in private…like all the other incredibly good-value debt deals such as the Cowen-Lenihan bank guarantee…

and net result we will be told what relief if any we will get….noonan and kenny will come back with their tails between their legs when a few crumbs are thrown our way in recognition of the yes vote