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Referendum on united Ireland ‘inevitable’ – Adams

The Sinn Féin president hit out at the UK Northern Ireland secretary, who this week rejected the possibility for a “border poll” on the region’s status.

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A REFERENDUM ON the position of Northern Ireland as part of the UK is inevitable, Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams has said.

Adams today launched a stinging attack on the UK Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Owen Paterson, who this week dismissed the possibility of holding a ‘border poll’ on the status of the region.

Branding Paterson a “political overlord” imposed on Ireland, Adams insisted that he “should not presume to arrogantly dictate to people here how we will conduct our affairs.” He added:

The political landscape in the North has been transformed in recent years and there is growing support for a united Ireland. A border poll is inevitable. Mr Patterson knows this.

Earlier this week, Paterson confirmed in the UK House of Commons that he had no intention of calling a border poll. According to UTV, he cited the results of a Queen’s University survey that showed 82.6 per cent of people in the North want to remain in the UK.

Speaking at a Sinn Féin conference in Derry, Gerry Adams today insisted that his vision of a united Ireland was one open to unionist views. He said it would come when “the people of our island have formed a cordial union of Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter”.

Adams added that at present, unionists are “isolated” in Britain where they make up just two per cent of the population. “In a united Ireland unionists would make up 20 per cent of the population and be able to exercise real authority, power and influence,” he said.

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Comments (208 Comments)

  • Will you be supporting Ireland’s 4 province rugby team team today ? I Will.

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    • Different argument all together. That isn’t gonna cause a return to the troubles of the 60s 70s 80s and 90s. The creation of a united Ireland very well could. And no to answer your question, I don’t watch or support rugby.

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    • I will be supporting them, but if they changed the flag, got rid of our national anthem, replaced the president with a minor British royal and didn’t play in green then I wouldn’t. And they are the kind of changes we would have to make to placate the northerners

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    • Surely Brian not voting yes due to the Flag, Anthem etc. contradicts what those in 1916 and War Of Independence fought for?

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    • Fiachra the war of independence and the civil war were more about removing the king and getting a republic than about partition. If we had to unite we would have to compromise, on things like the commonwealth flags, anthems etc

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    • Briain, you’re right we’d have to compromise; but is that such a bad thing?

      Luca, you’re saying we shouldn’t do something because of the threat of violence? Well that’s literally letting the terrorists win……and they haven’t even done anything yet! Also, I think you aren’t giving the Unionist community enough credit for accepting a democratic outcome. We’ve all come a long way since the UWC strike that brought down Sunningdale. I’m not saying there’d be not trouble, I am saying that a few violent bigots shouldn’t be allowed to dictate to the rest of us

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  • I’ve always wondered, if we ever did have a United Ireland, what would it mean for Sinn Féin and the very concept of Irish Republicanism? Would it make them irrelevant, would they claim it as an ultimate victory and settle comfortably into becoming a part of the political establishment, have they ever even discussed what they would do if this happened?

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    • There are plenty of party members that have the same views as me, we like the social policies but switch off to the northern accents

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    • You have one of the most productive imaginations I have ever encountered ‘Briain’.

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    • I think FG and FF would have to put aside their differences then, because Sinn féin would be solely acting on their socialist agenda.. which beats the hell out of anyone elses efforts over the last 90 years.. to reuse a quote posted earlier; “A Capitalist Republic isnt worth the life of one Irishman”. Thats not what Sinn féin are campaigning for, they will not be done untill we are united under a socialist republic like we should have been 90 years ago..

      I’m too young to have much of an opinion but right now Sinn Féin are looking like the only choice is the next election.. Though it will be hard to forget what they’ve condoned in the past it’ll be harder to forget what FF,FG and the other right wing politicians have done to this country in more recent years…

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    • Danny, they are also socialists. So until the country is sufficiently socialist (from their point of view) they’d still be campaigning away.

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  • I dont know why people are complaining- this is about a referendum, a democratic process where the people decide their future. The problem with that is?

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    • There should be no problem with it, except when it’s perceived as a threat to the cosy status quo down here. We’ll all cheer on the whole of Ireland in the rugby today though. Sad.

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    • And a team that is captained by a man from the six counties

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    • Mx 10/03/12 #

      If the EU were in charge of the referendum, they would keep voting until it’s a Yes

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      Fiachra. You have to remember that a large section of both FG/FF/Lab had no trouble for 70 years, with one man, one vote not being implemented in the North, had no trouble with companies in the North refusing to hire workers just because they were RC’s.

      They know that when a united Ireland arrives, that FG/FF are going to be faced with a whole mass of voters, businesses etc that will not tolerate the attitude of “oh we have to skew the terms of reference for this contract so as to get this lad the work, even though he is multiples dearer, he is FF or FG etc etc”.

      Ireland would be forced to act in a grown up fashion rather than the piggy bank of FF/FG.

      You bet they’ll fight that tooth and nail. Neither party can survive in a modern Ireland, let alone a re-united one.

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    • @Ross, Catch up, we are in 2012, people like yourself (from both traditions) you can’t leave history where it belongs (in the past) are the real problem.

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  • Have you drove in the uk lately ,,,6 hours on the m25 Blackwall tunnel blocked ,,,, we have a great country here ,,great ppl ,,, but fucked up at the moment but we will bounce back and learn from ower mistakes ,,,Irish ppl are a hard working race and are admired all over this world ,,, if we stoped putting putting us down as a ppl and just get on with it ,,, the Irish roads are fine ,,, just dickheads in here talking crap boils my blood

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      There are a good 10-15% of the populace in this state that are still very sore that this part of the country is independent. It drives a lot of the anger towards the Republican movement. There is never outrage in the papers when the head of the UVF is in the Aras or at a state function. Just imagine the reaction of the Sindo or RTE if the last Chief of Staff of the IRA was a regular attendee at such functions. No doubt there was awful work on all sides but If the righteous brigade would have had equal disdain for the UVF as they had the IRA, then we would have moved towards peace.

      and no I do not mean Protestants.

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    • Ross surely Gerry is in the dail weekly? Has he been prevented from entering the aras like you say?

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    • Brian you really should red up on your history before you make stupid statements like that, it only makes you look foolish.

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    • Ha, yeh. Still trying to get my head around the reference to the road network around London. Dartford tunnel is on M25. And there’s a bridge you know. Blackwall Tunnel runs between Bow (gor blimey) and Greenwich (Gren-itch). Was Adams stuck in a jam? And it’s Briain, Brian…

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  • I would love to see a United Ireland, what Irish person wouldn’t ! But I don’t think anyone in the North wants to pay
    off our debts !! More tax etc etc

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  • A referendum can hardly be constituted as a threat. Its democracy. All he’s doing is stating fact.

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  • Conal 10/03/12 #

    Clearly they are wanted. In the last election in the north alone they got over 170,000 votes, more votes actually than the DUP.

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  • As a Fermanagh man living in Belfast. Im suprised by the very partitionist views of some of the southern readers. People in the North arent different from those in the south. Us West of the Bann in Fermanagh,Tyrone and Derry have far more in common with those living in Monaghan,Cavan and Donegal than we do from those living in the Greater Belfast region. For most living outside of Belfast all the border is, is a imaginary line where the roadsigns change and you need euros in your pocket. To be honest the majority of people in Northern Ireland couldnt give a flying fig about whether we are ruled by London,Belfast or Dublin we just want good provision of services,investment in infrastructure,jobs and most importantly Peace. I don’t care what accent the politicians in Charge of me have as long as they are competent and can prevent lunatics destroying lives and businesses

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    • @ Connor

      Hear Hear!

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    • I think it would benefit the people of the north. At present they are around 2.5% of the population of the UK and they are on a separate island. They’re treated as an afterthought a lot of the time. Even at an unofficial level watch out for ads that say “UK only” and exclude northern Ireland. I don’t think an Englishman looks at a northerner and sees a compatriot

      In Ireland northerners are more like 35% of the population. The Unionist community would be a huge voting bloc and the north as a whole would be central to every every plan, economic, social and otherwise that any government tried to implement. In fact, the government could very well be a northern based party.

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  • There will be a United Ireland someday and it won’t be under the Crown Gay Mitchell………

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  • Conal 10/03/12 #

    Owen Patterson seems to be afraid of the outcome. There’s no chance that up to 80% would vote to remain part of the UK and he doesn’t want to face the facts.

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  • Foggy grow up ,,, I’m a Irish man true and true stop slating ppl who want to see this country unite ,,,I don’t agree with adams but you must respect him fir his ,,for his ambitions ,,,,and be for I get the red thumbs down I’m not a member of SF ,,, or anything to do with them I’m a republican who loves my country and wants to see it hole again ,,,,

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  • Speak for yourself and also there was a document signed called the Good Friday agreement not sure if you heard of it. The war is over!!

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  • If the 2 parliaments were joined in there current states and with no other party convergence , it would make sinn fein the second largest party on the island , with no longer a split along the fault line of the north would fine gael and fianna fail split their vote more evenly making possibly sinn fein the largest party on the island . Alternatively with sinn fein and labour being 2 left wing parties and the unionist – fine gael forming a quasi right where would fianna fail throw there hat , when a populist centre would no longer make them a party of government. A united ireland would be great craic from a party political perspective thats for sure.

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  • My understanding is that once a border poll is triggered, it is repeated every seven years.
    We only have to be lucky once, the unionists will have to be lucky always.

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    • mcbab 10/03/12 #

      Who is we ?

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    • Irish people. Who are you?

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    • Take a wild guess mcbab. He’s on an Irish website. Spot on Paul. :D

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    • I vote Sinn Fein but after nearly 100 years apart its time to realise the north has more in common with Britain than us. I refuse to dilute my country for the sake of 1 million who don’t want to be Irish only and not Irish and British.

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      Briain.

      You must not have troubled much of the North then!

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    • isn’t that ” we only have to be lucky once” a terrorist quote

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    • “We” exclude unionists Housty? Ironic…

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    • Sheila,
      I think both sides of the border should vote. The outcome would only be ratified if both sides of the border are agreed on the issue of a united Ireland. I personally would love to see a united Ireland. I live in hope that I will see it in my lifetime. I have travelled through all the counties of Norther Ireland and I would welcome everyone living on this island to be part of a united Ireland.

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    • Agree Gerard. One problem. In the case of N Ireland, self-determination, an internationally accepted principle, precludes an all-Ireland referendum. Until “catholic” – “nationalists” stop referring to “protestant” – “unionists” as “them”, there is very little chance of unity. We are us, me thinks…

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    • @Gerard (Ferris)

      Yes, I do agree. But I feel that the people in the 6 counties should be asked first maybe. I just feel that they all need to talk and vote on it themselves, before the people in the 26 counties get involved. They have had to live through years of hatred, murders, kidnappings, fear. They would know better than us, in the South whether it would work or not. They have all more or less lived with each other for years and know what each other would or could accept. I never thought there would actually be any kind of peace time in the North in my life time, and there is, which is just great. But I feel, I hope it doesn’t sound like I’m being negative, that there are a few rotten apples still there and it may be impossible for our generation to pick them out. Maybe … my children’s generation will see an all Ireland, but I cannot see it coming that quickly in my time. There is too much hurt and hatred in the older generation to let go at the moment. Hopefully it may happen before I’m gone, wherever that may be.

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  • A united Ireland is not just desirable due to historical and ideological reasons, it makes plain and simple sense as well. We are a small nation. We are a small island. Duplication of services across an artificial border is a needless waste of resources. Two police services with unnecessary levels of bureaucracy preventing proper co-operation. Two health services. Border communities cut off from their natural hinterlands. My own interest is in the agricultural sector. Two agricultural ministries operating in a country the size of ours is outrageous. The time is right to start talking in serious terms about a united Ireland. We live in a more peaceful time, and all sections of Irish society are beginning to see eye to eye. A united Ireland would provide all of us with the opportunity to be masters of our own destiny. We are stronger together.

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  • As I’ve said in the past English when it suits them Irish because they have to be.

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    • Being from Monaghan I’ve been north plenty of times, partition was the best thing that ever happened to us, the healthy ( and sane) part survived because the deseased part was amputated. How many people on this board have actually talked to northerners? They’re just not like us.

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    • People from Dublin are just not like us, but that is no excuse to cut them adrift.

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    • Briain true, I, a Derryman, am very different to a Dubliner but im quite like a Donegal person and I dont have much in common with Belfast people (they talk funny) but i really like Clare people and have a particular distaste for Tyrone people (in regards to GAA). But as you say were all very different and that is why i support an Independent Peoples Republic of Cork!

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    • Housty then speaks on behalf of all citizens of the republic?? Dont think so — I doubt Germany will be keen to throw additional billions at us to pay for policing in the North.

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    • Fiachra, sounds good I would vote for you!

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    • Brian,

      From a little bit of experience by me, dealing with and speaking with Northern Irish people, they are exactly the same as people South of the border! Good people and bad people. The same in every country of the world. The experience I’ve had are shopowners, people on the street that I have asked directions from when I was lost. They have all been very polite and lovely friendly people.

      We have bigots, and arseholes in the South just like the North. That’s what the world is about. I personally don’t believe that if a referendum was going to happen, it should only be held in the North in the 6 counties. It is them that need to decide, not us. Maybe, maybe some day, but today and too soon would be wrong.

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    • Briain, no you wouldnt, Im one of the “diseased part” that apparently is insane and needs to be amputated!

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  • we should do a lot more support and develop Irish culture so more people would become aware of the difference between Irish and British. During the long years of occupation by the British colonial power, one of their main strategies to subdue the population was to destroy Irish culture, language, arts, etc. Be proud to be Irish, speak the language develop the music, writings, arts and science.

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  • Would we have to have a referendum to accept the vote of the north or would the south and north be party to the same vote?

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  • The words of Bobby Sands come to mind “A Capitalist Republic isnt worth the life of one Irishman”. When a United Ireland is achieved, it must be based on principles of equality and social justice for all, not just the elites (as happened in the two partitioned states). The structures for achieving a 32 county Republic in a peaceful way are in place. It is the job of Republicans to not only achieve it, but to convince all the peoples on the island that it is the way forward, to a better fairer more prosperous society.

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  • Easy foggy .

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  • Just think of the all Ireland government coalition…..FG and the DUP :(

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  • I don’t see any real plan to implement a United Ireland.They seem to be hoping for a sectarian headcount which will only leave us with a large alienated minority.
    Many Ulster Protestants could be talked into a United Ireland but it will never be Sinn Fein who will talk them into it.

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  • On what basis can the “Right Honourable” Mr Owen Paterson deny the poor plebians of “Northern Arland” a vote on the future of their state?

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  • Ross 10/03/12 #

    at Brian.

    The Monaghan style bomb already happened. The Guards did not investigate it, they stopped after 6 weeks and destroyed much of the evidence gathered. They didn’t like the results that they were getting and it did not suit the narrative that the FG/Lab. Govt of the time wanted. It is a great pity that they did not publish their evidence, say lies be damned and do the right thing. I believe that it may have forced peace, the outcry in England would have been so great.

    I’m no fan of the British Army or establishment but I have no doubt that the English people would not have tolerated what went on in Dublin/Moanghan and they would not have tolerated the actions of the Cosgrave Govt. either. I guess when he dies, that the whole unsavoury truth will come out. It might not be convenient for him while he is still alive. The only Taoiseach that Bertie Ahern can look down on.

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    • Whos Brian? Is mise Briain.
      So we has Monaghan, where by the way one of my cousins died, but the English didn’t have equivalents? Guildford, warrington, etc etc ever heard of those or was your tv on mute during the 70s and 80s?

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      Briain

      Yes there were atrocities in England as well, there is no evidence linking members of the Irish state army or the Guards to the attacks, unlike the Dublin/Monaghan bombings. I am not aware of any bombing in England that was not investigated by the authorities. Could you imagine of after 7/7 the Met in London announced that they were suspending the investigation and destroying the evidence.

      I remember the 70′s but I still reside in the present. Do call in for a visit.

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      Briain

      Yes there were atrocities in England as well, there is no evidence linking members of the Irish state army or the Guards to the attacks, unlike the Dublin/Monaghan bombings and British security forces. A claim backed by the head of the Met. who investigated the claims.
      I am not aware of any bombing in England that was not investigated by the authorities. Could you imagine of after 7/7 the Met in London announced that they were suspending the investigation and destroying the evidence.

      I remember the 70′s but I still reside in the present. Do call in for a visit.

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  • I think the reunification of Ireland will be hard at first, financially and politically. But in the long run a small island like ours will save money and benefit in the long run..

    Economics aside I think it would be great shake up of our political system, FG and FF would have to put aside their differences because Sinn féin would be alot stronger and have a purely socialist agenda.. The left wing cannot get a look in as it stands because people cant see FF and FG are practically the same party..

    I’m too young to have much of an opinion but right now Sinn Féin are looking like the only choice is the next election.. Though it will be hard to forget what they’ve condoned in the past it’ll be harder to forget what FF,FG and the other right wing politicians have done to this country in more recent years…

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  • I find it very interesting that Scotland, where no groups ever resorted to violence, is closer to independence than Ireland is to being united. Dissident republicans should take note.

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  • David 10/03/12 #

    I know it’s off the point and historical, but can you imagine how hard it was for our Republican leaders to mobilise support for a Republic and a free and fair State back when people needed a different Ireland. The 10 or 20 people on here can’t even agree whether we should have a United Ireland, who should take action, or whether action needs to be taken at all.

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  • A vote will take place maybe not in Ferry Adams life time. SF are masters of the long political game so this is only one movement along that route. The demographics of NI are changing with a fast expanding Catholic middle class working its way into positions of influence in the professions and civil service. The expectatio

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    • hit a Button and posted in mid flight. the point I was about to make was there is an expectation that there will be a theoretical nationalist majority in about 20 years. whether they would all vote for unification with the south is the 64000 dollar question!

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    • But the current split is what? 55%to 45% yet 82% don’t want a united Ireland, so surely more catholic middle class equals more catholic middle class that dont want a united Ireland

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    • My point exactly Brian, it is far from a foregone conclusion that a future theoretical nationalist majority would vote for a united Ireland. That is why Sinn Fein are playing a long game here and the condemnation this week is only one tiny step in that process to influence a change in attitudes to their POV. They are ideally suited to that type of campaign,

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  • Tiocfaidh Ar La. Erin go Bragh

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  • Just an observation but if your a CF patient in the North you have a better chance of living longer, healthcare is better up North, even more Oncologist’s up there as well.

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      Martina. That is by choice of the electorate. FF/FG give them mass unemployment, poverty and forced mass emigration every 20 years and a failed health system. They are defined by cronyism and corruption and for having policies that are catering to a very select few. They are consistently out of sync with small, successful countries that grow strongly and yet look after their people as well.

      People still gave them over 50% in last years election.

      If a battered wife consistently refuses to leave her husband, refuses to ask him to change his ways, refuses intervention or help, then she can hardly complain when he acts the maggot to her once again.

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    • Stockholm syndrome !

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  • The biggest obstacle to a united Ireland is the feeling that it would be a victory for the IRA. Adams talking about it annoys constitutional politicians and normal folk.

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  • Will never happen sure why da hell wud they want 2be part if a bailed out country thats jst behind greece thats prob gona default in the near future better in the uk then republic of ireland..

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  • I don’t think there is as much of an appetite for a “United Ireland” as Gerry Adams might wish to believe on either side of the border, a h

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  • The last major poll for a united Ireland was in 2009 – ^ “Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey, 2009. “Do you think the long-term policy for Northern Ireland should be for it … to reunify with the rest of Ireland?”". Ark.ac.uk. 2010-06-06. Retrieved 2010-11-21.
    Result: 21% in favour.
    Sinn Fein are dreaming if they think they can bring that past 51% within the lifetimes of their leaders.

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  • Nice idea but unlikely to happen. People know what way their bread is buttered. With the border providing smuggling and cheap shopping, an NHS service that is top notch, etc among other advantages people won’t vote to remove it

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  • Did we not already have a united Ireland 90 odd years ago????

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  • Not going to happen

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  • Talk the Unionits into a united Ireland? It would be a hard job talking the Catholics into a united Ireland! this country is an absolute mess in case ppl have forgotten. A united Ireland is merely an aspiration. an aspiration that northern Catholics or protestants don’t seem to share anymore. while this republic is tied to the IMF and has yet to fully relinquish the influence of the church and Vatican, to talk of persuading northern protestants to join up is an embarrassment. Entirely ignorant of the state we’re in.

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  • Adams, not being from the south is so out of touch. “Down here”, as McG described it in pres election, we are less concerned one way or the other and certainly don’t care what religion you are…

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    • Don’t care what religion you are? Unionist / Republicism are not religions last time I checked. Adams, while I am not a fan, is as Irish as you or me. Thankfully you don’t speak for everyone in the 26 counties.

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    • Whats wrong with saying down here? Ive said it myself, and I have lived in Galway all my life.

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    • works both ways. Some in the 26 counties tend to say ‘up there’ as well, especially those in the media

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    • Ross 10/03/12 #

      o’Reilly.

      “we are less concerned one way or the other and certainly don’t care what religion you are…”

      The 2 ex-IRA volunteers in my SF cumann who are Protestants, probably have picked up on that already. Isn’t is gas, your the first luadair to bring up religion. Time to get with the programme and shove you bigotry where the sun doesn’t shine, time to get out of your little bubble. Open your mind, it’s like your bedroom, it’ll only stink after a while if you do not.

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  • Adams you fool, concentrate on the 26 counties we are currently paying for. We cannot afford to support the north and I’m pretty sure the people of the north aren’t willing to enter into a system that has 3rd world health care in replace for the free NHS system, then there’s the cost of infrastructure maintenance..we will soon find out that the school facilities, sports facilities and public service are to a higher standard to the south..will they down grade them to the same as the south or keep them and have the new republic citizens of ulster living in a better facilitated part of Ireland costing more than the southern citizens. Don’t think the people of the 3 other provinces will like that. I for one think there is a time and a place for this and it’s obvious Adams has nothing better to do than burdening our crippled country to satisfy his fantasy. There are a large proportion of northern citizens that don’t want a united Ireland for the simple fact that they’d lose the benefits of living as part of UK. Adams needs to bugger off back up there and keep is corrupt, blood stained little hands out of southern politics.

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    • Also you don’t have to pay €60 to see a doctor up in Norn Iron cos it’s free

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    • And Adams is a fool?? I bet he can string a sentence together!!

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    • skeolawn 10/03/12 #

      The UK “mainland” props up the Northern Ireland economy. They might not want to do that forever. You’re right that we can’t afford it, but right now we can’t afford to run the Republic either so where’s the harm? Anyway, with a larger population and a bigger trading zone (with the same rules) we might actually be able to get our act together. It would certainly add a different perspective to political discussions – something that is badly needed.

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  • Ireland was only ever united under British rule….so go for it Gerry, so here is to good roads, healthcare, government, education, local authority…oh and cheap shopping. Can’t wait to rejoin the UK

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    • Nominally united. And if you think Britain is Utopia you should go visit it sometime. They have their problems, just like us.

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    • toorkeel 10/03/12 #

      Would you believe Skeolawn, I have visited the UK many times, actually as recent as last weekend having even lived in it for a few years….

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    • Is it all about materialism, money and wealth? All these Celtic Tiger cubs wishing back the fake boom and running down the notion of a free prosperous and thriving Irish Nation. Why not imagine the potential this country has, unionist and republican united in the common goal of making Ireland a fantastic place to grow up, raise a family and grow old in dignity, supported by our own people, not bailed out by The Crown or the IMF. Why not?

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    • skeolawn 11/03/12 #

      @toorkeel: did you notice anything on your visit?

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  • Maybe if UK & Ireland were united there would be less problems.

    Just imagine if we had all the better roads and infrastructure that we experience when we go up north down here.

    But who wants that?

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    • Just drove on said roads today, the roads are better in the republic these days, and infrastructure was built by the uk, so it wouldn’t make sense to say by uniting it would be better in the south

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    • What on earth are you talking about? You’ve clearly never been to the North because the road infrastructure is MUCH better, and much more well lit in the south.

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    • Sean, Belfast maybe but go anywhere west of the Bann and you will see how much infrastructure we get. Derry, the 2nd biggest city in NI and the 4th in Ireland has shocking roads to Belfast, Dublin and Galway, 1 rail line that takes longer than driving and FDI has really suffered due to the lack of transport links!

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    • If we were part of the UK Ireland would be an afterthought like north Wales or huge swathes of northern England. Have you been to those places? The quality of life lags a long way behind here or London. For all it’s faults I’d rather Dublin didn’t turn into Middlesborough

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  • I would love a united Ireland… Enough with the segregation, it’s time we joined a country with the NHS, a respectable government and a triple A bond rating…

    Yo Jerry, where can one buy a union jack?

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  • Hey Gerry Adams, who gives a shit. Oh my life is complete now because we own the Giants Causeway. Apart from that what does the North have to offer? Cast it aside and lets get on with our own problems. As for those in that other country, it’s a severely fragile peace they have and making them unite with us will destroy that peace. Good job Sinn Fein. It would be bad for both countries.

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  • it is the same as we listened to finna fail in the 50s and early 60s..playing the green drum when it suits. i want to see a UNITED IRELAND IN MY LIFETIME?

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  • random 10/03/12 #

    I don’t understand why anybody in the North would want a united Ireland when further devolution would give them much more control over their own affairs.

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  • Couldn’t care less.

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  • As i see it Gerry et al are viewing this one dimensionally, the issue of unifying northern Ireland and the republic of Ireland has at least 2 aspects for referendum,

    the issue of ni leaving the union would be one referendum, presumably for the people of the uk and secondly the unification of the 32 counties which would be another referendum for the people of ireland…

    Gerry may be right that unification is envitable, especially in the context of a federal Europe, another separate inevitability, But the time is not yet…

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  • As usual the Irish people are asleep @ the wheel. We have a united Ireland leave it alone.

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  • Nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!

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  • Mr Lee 10/03/12 #

    I wouldn’t want a united Ireland! Imagine the problems! Laws, tax, education, etc.

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  • mcbab 10/03/12 #

    Dream on Gerry!!!!! We “down here” are fine as we are thank you.

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    • Mcbab we’re “fine down here” are we? What parallel universe are you inhabiting.? If the “Republic” of Ireland is currently “fine” I wonder what state it woulld have to be in to be described as a corrupt bankrupt little statelet run by a self serving elite of gombeens?

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    • John, why did you put “Republic” in quotation marks? That’s not the name of the country. It’s right there at the start of the constitution – the name of the country is Ireland, so who are you quoting? It’s not a statelet either, it’s a state. As for being corrupt, Ireland has been in the top 20 least corrupt countries (according to transparency international) for the whole 10 years they’ve been keeping records.

      So to answer your question; a much worse state than this one

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  • And How Can we afford it?? We cant afford to run our own country at the moment. Typical Sinn Fein Nonsense!

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  • ‘shit you not’,

    Agreed, Adams has been elected by some (not me) in the Republic to the Dail. To do and work at business and problems we have here. If he wants to talk about uniting the 6 counties with the 26 counties, then he has to go back where he came from, and that is the Northern Ireland Parliament and work on his suggestion there. As I said above, the referendum should be given to the people in the 6 counties, not us. It’s there decision.

    As far as I can see it, Adams wants this because he has fought/being part of this all his life. He wants to be remembered and in the history books not just because he is/was part of the IRA/Sin Fein but he wants us to remember him like we’ve had to be reminded of that ass Aherne by having to look at that phallic symbol in the middle of O’Connell Street, Dublin. Just like Aherne, I/we do not need something like that to remind us what he/they have done to this country. Thanks but no thanks. This is the decision of the people in the 6 counties, not mine!

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    • @ Sheila. just a few points on what you wrote. 1) You’re opinion might hold a little more weight if you learned how to spell Gerry Adam’s political party. 2) There is no parliament in Northern Ireland, only an Assembly. An assembly and a parliament are two almost completely different things. 3) If there was to be a referendum on Irish unity in Northern Ireland then there would also have to be one here, bringing the issue directly under the remit of any politicians down south. 4) The idea that southern politicians should not voice an opinion on issues not related to this state (although Irish unification would have a massive impact) is ludicrous. Using your logic, then Irish politicians should not voice opinions on events such as the wars in Syria, Libya or Palestine, we should not voice opinions or interfere in human rights abuses in China, Bahrain, Turkey, etc. We shouldn’t interfere or voice opinions in disaster stricken countries such as post-tsunami Indonesia, Japan or Ethiopia. 5) Adams, and I’m not a fan of his by the way, was condemning the Secretary for denying the people of Northern Ireland their democratic right. Whether you agree or disagree with Irish unity, surely you recognise the right of the Northern Irish people to decide?

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    • @Brian O Dalaigh,

      1)I have his political party spelt right! Thank you! The way I see it! 2) You are being padantic! Obviously, I meant Assembly, pardon me! 3) I would like to see what the people in the 6 counties thought of the idea first, before we put out ‘boot’ in with our opinion/vote! 4)I did not say he could not voice an opinion, I just feel that he probably could voice it better in the Northern Assembly and speak to the people of the 6 counties from there, not from the Republic. They might actually listen to him from there and not feel that he is pontificating from the Republic! 5) Obviously, I believe in the 6 counties residents opinion. Theirs come first before mine!

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    • Sheila, Adams was born in Belfast so he has every right to comment on issues North and South. In fact the people of the Republic have every right to comment on NI matters under Article 2 of our Constitution .

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    • Sorry Sheila, but you spelled the party as Sin Fein. The party is correctly spelled Sinn Féin – two “n”s in Sinn and a fada over the e in Féin. If you agree that the decision should be made by the people of Northern Ireland, why then are you condemning Gerry Adams for condemning the British Secretary of State for denying the people of Northern Ireland from making their own decision? To be honest, your entire opinion seems to be entirely based on the idea that whatever Sinn Féin say, you will oppose.

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    • @Brian Ward,

      Did I say he couldn’t? I said maybe, he should speak to the people of the 6 counties from the 6 counties. Go and sit down and discuss what they want with them, not from Dail Eireann. I am sure a number of people living there would find offence with him pontificating on what should be done from a seat in the Dail.

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  • Given that northern Ireland is a part of the united kingdom I would have thought that the referendum would be held in the uk, not just Ireland. It wouldn’t be just up to the 32 counties to decide to break up the union…..

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  • If there are people in Ireland who want northern Ireland so much – just go up there to live. Please bring Derek Mooney with you as he loves it and keeps promoting shopping up there. The majority of the people in Ireland want it as it is – with the type of people from the SF/IRA left up there.

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