Fred will pay too…

So you stand resolutely against the fee by paying it?

I think you’re feeling a little bit ashamed of yourself or why do those “insults” hurt so much. You should have used the 100 hundreds to buy a dictionary so you look up what “resolute” actually means.

I’m sorry censored, but did you actually read what I said and the point I was making. At no point did I say I had paid the FEE, only that we should not refer to those who have as gobshites. So don’t be so quick to charge in and blindly attack. Read first and try to understand what the grownups here talking about.

@boildyeggs: I apologise if you haven’t paid. I did misread your comment.

And people wonder why the next budget is going to be worst than the last one – feckers (a collective term for the current governent) can’t count!

I believe the collective noun for a group of wankers is a “cabinet”

What spin and lies every day!!

Yeah, arithmetic is such a challenge, Anel.

Try paying the €100 in cash – they charge you an extra €10. Why is that? Could it be because with your credit card details they can just take that out each year and not have to chase you any longer? Is it that your credit card has your full proper house address so now they “have you” for all future taxes?

I have no bother paying my fair share of taxes but let it be fair. €100 across the table is unfair. On top of which for me to earn that €100 I had to earn also €175 (give or take), so when the property tax comes out imagine how much that is really going to cost you.

Can we afford it and continue to have a “normal” life in Ireland? I don’t believe so. You just can’t tax your way out of a recession. The people just don’t have any more to give.

Cut the government salaries, pensions (after 4 years what a joke!), expenses.

There’s a lot more ways for the Government to save money without attacking the Irish people continuously.

@Vinnie Mulvihill

All propaganda! The bull hogan thinks that we’ll be drawn into what he is saying and that stupid picture (I can only assume someone from F Gael took it, because a professional photographer could not go as low as that). Most of those bags contain messages like “go and take a run and jump for yourself”!

I still did not get an answer from anyone as to where the leaflets were printed. Ireland, UK, where? Did an Irish printing company get the contract, where will the referendum leaflets be printed?

Karl “a common foe”! Why on earth are you calling your democratly elected government a common foe? You should try living in Syria then you might have something to complain about instead of a €100 household charge.

@ mcbab, a common foe, the ordinary citizen of ireland should not be afraid of its government as the gov is elected by them and as such the gov should be afraid of its citizens and do what is right for them incl the little old lady who lives on her own as its those citizens who define us, our gov is now at the beck and call of germany and france and due to this new gov more and more families are on the brink and many have already past that point, suicide is through the roof fact!!!!!!!!!!!!, fathers and mothers leaving children behind due to the turmoil of financial stress and all the gov can do is add to the stress and bend to the will of their new paymasters, universal social charge, pension income levy, petrol and diesel through the roof elec and gas through the roof all adding to families struggle, the common foe is doing nothing.
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The common foe is the economic crisis. We elected this government to represent our interests, not the interests of the ECB and foreign creditors.

@ censored, i agree to a degree, you are right in a sense it is the ecb and the banks as it is the foolish actions of the ecb and the banks led by the so called intellects and our collective govs that have gotten us into this, we the citizens listened to the likes of bertie and cowen these elected people, the sign of a good leader is a person who can surround himself with experts in all fields, banking, economics etc and steer a country and its banking system in the right direction and as such in the best interests of its citizens, we the citizens listened to these people as they should have been steering the ship on the right course but we learned too late and now the true common foe is our inaction as citizens a collective and letting those we again elected to steer our ship in the best interests of others and not its own people.

Woman after my own heart…. Stuff Europe and stuff europes wife

Yes I do know what its like to have a child with special needs and I also know what its like to have family in a house supported by the hse for special needs and to be quiet frankly they do a fantastic job there, I also have opinions on our health service, I’m not impressed with the waiting list thats there, but I have te say unfortunately our health service is far better than some in other countries, now dont get me wrong, it is a disgrace, my aunt had a heart attack on a Sunday night three weeks ago and was still on a trolley in a and e at Tuesday lunchtime, yes thisis a complete disgrace and needs to be sorted, my father himself is one of those on the list waiting to be seen, so no im not living in a dream world, no I dont agree with what’s going on in our country but this has nothing to do with the household charge, people are just using it as a way of putting two fingers up to the government, the IMF have told us it had to be introduced and unfortunately we answer to them now, all I was saying was im sick of the dont pay side constantly saying dont be bullied into paying, while them themselves could be blamed for bullying also, I have paid because its the law, I dont need others saying im a fool for paying let everyone have their own opinion and make up their own minds and stop the personal attacks on the ones who have paid.

We only answer to the IMF if we choose to.

Dont be bullied into not paying it either if youd perfer to. Im pick of everyone from the dont pay side forcing it down our throats, its our choice, the dont pay side is worse nor bullying than the government.

They were soooo gullible to vote Fianna Failure in again and again …

Well put Dexter. We put ourselves in this position by voting for Fianna Fail repeatedly. The Greeks put themselves in their position by who they voted for and how they themselves behaved.
We don’t have sustainable taxes, we queued up to elect Fianna Fail when they promised to get rid of them. Now we don’t like their reintroduction when we need them most. Perhaps we should reflect on our previous choices. There’s no doubt this property tax will be increased, none whatsoever – property tax is a tax on wealth. So I really don’t see why people are shouting about it like it’s some conspiracy. We have 14 billion this year alone we need to find.

Gary: you keep talking about the deficit, but you’ve never explained how you think we’ll get out of this. Reducing the deficit gradually over a period of years is not going to work. Have you checked what we’re paying in interest already?

Yes we will, people, together, standing strong! We will abolish this ridiculous tax from the EU (I see the services rhetoric has stopped btw). I will not pay so thanks Declan333 for paying for me sucker!!!

@ryan, you are probable naive enough to think the dirty shinners can get us out of this mess too by means other than assassinating the IMF and burying them up a mountain.

Stupid is paying it at all!

You sound far more stupid

They need us to register for this so next year they can catch everyone for property tax and the year after that for water charges. No one is mentioning that the house hold charge is for this year only, most likely that will continue on so now by 2014 you be paying over 1200 or more. Can’t wait to see how much it will be in 5 years. Imagine how hard it would be for a lot of people to pay an additional €100+ each month in their mortgages and this is exactly what the government expects us to do?

It was Enda himself that stated it would be unlawful and unjust to tax a person’s home.

Minister Hog is refusing to pay his own property tax in Portugal

And the best of all “residential properties of ministers of state are exempt from the house hold charge!”

A minister of state on the late late show, stated in front of everyone that they know it’s unfair and unjust but tough! This from the party that made so many promises prior to the election and then broke them all within the first year.

Shame we don’t have a reset button to start over with our government.

I’ve lived and worked in Ireland for 41 years, I honestly don’t believe I will still be here by the time I’m 50. I don’t expect any of my children to remain in Ireland once they graduate. What a shame……

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. – Winston Churchill

So we’ll just keep digging ourselves into a hole John?

I say do exactly what it says on the tin…… Silent

+1 Dave

a thought, in germany a politician represents approx 250,000 people, in ireland its approx 26,000. if england had the same ratio of politicians to people as ireland they would have approx 16,500 politicians. enda went on about cuts in in no of TD’s in the election hype and then its only the seanad, id rather keep the seanad and cut TD’s in half or more and the seanad there to keep and eye on them,

What’s $8m in euro?

Utter rubbish…how are they going to find me if I have not registered…and for the record I am being facetious! I paid € 35k stamp duty not three years ago. Where did that go to? They can f@ck right off!

Yeh! And you’re never going to be elected again O’Reilly!

Challenge to the reader – take a look at the debt clock at the link below:

http://www.financedublin.com/debtclock.php

How many sheep does it take to pay one day of interest on the debt?

Boring, you’ve paid so get the boat,what does it matter that the rest of us don’t (hogan come on the twitter accounts are getting tedious-trollio) in answer to the drivel you posted see my comment above.

Well said Declan

No it won’t, I won’t pay end of :) stop reading if it hurts your head! End of trollio bu bye

@declan332: I don’t really understand people like you. You paid the charge. Ok, that’s your choice. I’m disappointed in you because I think you don’t really seem to understand what’s going on here. That said, your choice fair enough. I think you’ve missed an opportunity to protest in a democratic way against the way this crisis is being handled. I believe our current policies will kill this country stone dead over a period of years, and we must change our current course.

You believe …. what? “the tax is for real, obey the law”. Either you’re a dyed in the wool FG “obey the law of the land” robot, or you’re a coward, or maybe you can afford to pay and you just don’t care about the wider implications.

@AN Other

Surely, you have a few more words in your vocabulary? At least write something that we can discuss with you! Yes, I know you won’t win the argument but at least give us some reason, one, as to why you felt you had to pay this registration fee, with no explanation from the bull hogan, no please, no honesty in his body?

No followers, no tweets. Just a troll. Sad git.

Shut up, pay up. U want everything for free, everything handed to you. Wake up, shut up and pay up.

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