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Hamas says it has been holding secret talks with 5 EU countries

The Palestinian group says it has been holding secret political talks with five European Union member states in recent months – a possible signal that the isolation of Hamas is easing

Osama Hamdan
Osama Hamdan
Image: AP Photo/Hussein Malla

THE PALESTINIAN ISLAMIST group Hamas has been holding secret political talks with five European Union member states in recent months, a senior official in the militant group told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

If confirmed, such talks would be a sign that the isolation of Hamas is easing in the wake of the Arab Spring uprisings that have brought Islamist movements to power in parts of the Middle East.

The EU and the US consider Hamas a terror group and refuse to deal with it unless it renounces violence and recognises Israel.

However, the West is reassessing its Mideast policy following the uprisings of the past year that toppled several pro-Western regimes in the region and gave rise to the Hamas parent movement, the pan-Arab Muslim Brotherhood.

It appeared possible that some EU member states are now softening their approach toward Hamas.

‘Channels of talking’

In an interview Wednesday, Beirut-based Hamas official Osama Hamdan said his group has been talking to government officials from five major EU member states in recent months. He would not list the countries.

“I can say it’s an important level (of officials), without defining whether it’s junior or senior, and the channels are working,” said Hamdan, who handles the group’s foreign relations and spoke at a Hamas office in Beirut’s southern Dahiya neighbourhood. “It’s not just a contact. It’s channels of talking.”

Hamas won Palestinian parliament elections in 2006 and seized control of the Gaza Strip by force a year later. Since then, the West has demanded that the group recognise Israel and renounce violence, in exchange for a diplomatic role. The Islamists have largely observed an unofficial truce with Israel in recent years but balk at recognising Israel.

Hamdan is the first Hamas official to speak publicly and in some detail about purported contacts with Western governments.

In Gaza, three Hamas officials said Britain, France and the Netherlands are among the countries involved in backchannel talks. Two also mentioned Austria, and one added Sweden to the list. The officials said talks have been held in Gaza, Lebanon, Egypt and Turkey. The three spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the diplomatic contacts.

Officials in Britain, France and Austria denied their governments are conducting talks with Hamas, while officials in Sweden and the Netherlands could not immediately be reached for comment.

In the backchannel talks, Hamas is seeking assurances that European countries will recognise the outcome of future Palestinian elections, Hamdan said. It’s not clear when such elections would be held, since they are linked to a stalled reconciliation agreement between Hamas and its main rival, Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

They have to accept Palestinian democracy

“They have to accept the Palestinian democracy,” Hamdan said of the international community. “We believe that if … they are ready to accept the results, regardless to the names and the organizations, that would be fine for the Palestinians.”

Hamdan said he believes the changes in the region, with its resurgence of Islamist movements, have prompted some European countries to review their policy toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including Hamas. “I think the Europeans also understand that if they want to deal with the region in the Arab Spring, they will face big questions from the region toward the Palestinian cause,” he said.

Hamdan said European officials keep bringing up the recognition issue in backchannel talks, but that Hamas won’t budge.

Hamdan and others in Hamas argue that recognition cannot be granted as long as Israel controls war-won territories the Palestinians want for a state. The Hamas founding charter calls for Israel’s destruction. In recent years, senior Hamas officials held out the possibility of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, but they refuse to say this could be the permanent solution to the conflict.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said he couldn’t confirm the European meetings with Hamas. The group can only play a role if it meets the long-standing demands by the international community, he said.

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Comments (23 Comments)

  • guess there not so secret anymore…………….

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  • I’m sorry to have to post this here but there’s no where else it’ll get noticed. I put up replies to Too True Left in this evening’s Michael Noonan thread on the treaty. They were deleted and now the thread is locked so it looks like I didn’t reply.

    This is unprofessional. It’s happened before. Are ye a news site or a site for pushing a particular agenda??

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    • I noticed that too. Not nice.

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    • If you’re a yes voter or you criticise SF, take screen prints of your posts. The moderators might remove them and not even inform you.

      Incredible…..!

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    • @Impartial Eclipse.

      I haven’t seen the comments you are referring to so I can’t comment on them, but I would draw your attention to the comments policy there at the bottom of your screen if you are on a desktop (I’m not sure of you can access them in the app, but if you access the mobile site via a browser they are there at the bottom of the home page).

      This clearly states that the comments aren’t actually moderated. There aren’t any specific rules, besides laying off personal attacks and jibes, or anything that could be considered offensive or libellous – which makes sense.
      Each comment has a “report comment” beside it, users can report comments if they wish – this brings the thread and comment to the attention of the journal staff who may contribute or delete as they see fit.
      If they lock a thread it’s usually because the debate is devolving into something pretty bad or there may even be too many comments, that’s simple storage space..

      I don’t agree with their policy of not informing people of why they may have been blocked, I can appreciate removal of an offensive or libellous comment without explanation, but if you are banned I reckon being told why makes sense, after all we can’t learn unless we see the error. Signing up with a new twitter account is easily done, so it defeats the purpose of the ban and ultimately wastes more time for the staff who will probably end up banning the same person more than once.

      A lot of people get very upset that their posts are being removed, or seem to think that when a thread is locked that some how it suggests an agenda, but it’s not.
      (funnily enough, the majority of times I have seen this happen the comment in question did break the rules, although as I said, I cannot comment on what you said as I didn’t see it). I really don’t think the majority of contributors here have taken the time to read the comments policy, it really shows..

      Obviously enough people reported it for it to be taken down.. Whatever it contained. In light of these facts, accusing the website of having an agenda is a bit much wouldn’t you think?

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    • It’s the second time this week, Shanti. Earlier this week, I put up a comment criticizing Sinn Féin. It got deleted. I had it saved on clip board so I put it up again asking why it was deleted. 2nd time it was left in place.

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    • Are you using an app by any chance?
      I find that quite frequently I will post something and it won’t show up on true thread web the page refreshes, initially I thought that they weren’t showing up, and if I could I’d rewrite it but upon visiting the web page via the browser I would realise that both comments were actually there, the app just didn’t display it.

      That said, it could well have been removed, if enough people reported it. As I said, not knowing what the criticism was I cannot comment on that. I have seen rather offensive comments remain, that do break the comments rules, presumably because no one reported them – further proving that there is no “moderators”. I’ve had comments removed, but upon reflection they mentioned issues with a specific company I had insider knowledge of – they could be deemed libellous as there was only my post to go on. I fully appreciate why they were removed.

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    • I’ve checked with the app and the web and the comments are gone. Also the thread is locked. So I can’t attempt to put the answers in again.

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    • toorkeel 03/05/12 #

      Yes Impartial you are right, this website appears to lean in a certain direction. If you criticise SF, Socialists or the Anti Everything camp your posts are often removed. Pathetic populist journalism.

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    • your answers are still there…. you keep repeating the same lines without getting back at any criticism.

      The government is in theory right with their yes vote….. but its suvcess is also dependingbon the rest of europe.

      I dont trust yhe governmrnt after all their previous lies….and there are alternatives…. cause brussel isvto afraid to let the zone fsll appart
      ..

      the fatcats would be out of a job

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    • I had an experience few months ago where I was debating in one thread. One evening this guy had a massive go at me, accused me of everything, practically threw the kitchen sink at me. And the thread was locked. So I couldn’t reply.

      I emailed them and they did unlock it for me. There was no explanation given as to why it had been locked in the first place.

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    • No, they’re gone. See the comment where I finish up “We do need that”. There were posts in reply that have been removed.

      Anyway, we’re off topic here. I’ve emailed them….. twice.

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    • toorkeel 03/05/12 #

      Yes my comment is still there, It appears I haven’t “offended” anyone of the above mentioned yet. I always, when allowed reply to any comments Red and will engage in any debate. As for alternatives, I’ve yet to see a credible one coming from Joe Higgins, SF, ULA etc if that’s what you are referring to

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  • End the Israeli occupation of Palestine .
    Stop Israeli imprisoning Palestinians without charge, or trial.
    Demand Israel abides by international law.
    1700 Palestinian detainees on hunger strike at the moment.
    Stop EU “favoured partnership” with Israel .

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  • So toorkeel, the problem here is the Palestinians. They are firing rockets at Israel and if they stop doing it Israel will do what?
    Balance.

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  • Ah yes Toorkeel : the closet unionist.
    And IE: the blueshirt apologist. Ha Ha, no one wants to read your shit. Move on.

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    • toorkeel 03/05/12 #

      Ouch, my feelings are hurt, maybe I should report your comment, I’m offended. Now I’m a closet unionist and a blueshirt. strange argument as this a topic about Hamas. That’s what makes me laugh about you “wannbe socialists and whiter than white liberals”, you are the first to abuse when someone has different point of view. You cannot engage constructively so you attack, ironic really since you constantly strive to spread peace and harmony against the naughty establishment. I suppose that’s why you a minority end destined to stay as one

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  • Its simple guys,
    If all of you people gang up on me, keep beating me, steal my land, kill my children, destroy my means of earning a living. And I eventually raise my hand to defend my self and I strike one of you in the face or kill one of you…..does that make me the aggressor? Or am I simply engaging in a legitimate act of self defense?

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