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Israel confirms killing Arafat deputy in 1988

Lifts 25 year veil of secrecy on assassination in Tunisia.

A February 10, 1986 file photo of Khalil al-Wazir, better known as Abu Jihad, the Palestinian Liberation Organization's military chief seen in Amman, Jordan.
A February 10, 1986 file photo of Khalil al-Wazir, better known as Abu Jihad, the Palestinian Liberation Organization's military chief seen in Amman, Jordan.
Image: JOHN RICE/AP/Press Association Images

ISRAEL ACKNOWLEDGED ON Thursday that it killed Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat’s deputy in a 1988 raid in Tunisia, lifting a nearly 25-year veil of secrecy and allowing a rare glimpse into the shadowy world of its secret operations.

One of the commandos was disguised as a woman on a romantic vacation, and one of the weapons was hidden in a box of chocolates.

Khalil al-Wazir, who was better known by his nom de guerre Abu Jihad, founded Fatah, the dominant faction in the Palestinian Liberation Organization, with Arafat and was blamed for a series of deadly attacks against Israelis.

Two of those involved in the operation that killed al-Wazir now hold high political office in Israel — Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Vice Premier Moshe Yaalon. At the time, Barak was deputy military chief, and Yaalon was head of the elite commando unit Sayeret Matkal. Their precise roles in the operation were not divulged, and both men’s offices declined comment.

Israel has long been suspected of assassinating al-Wazir. But only now has the country’s military censor cleared the Yediot Ahronot daily to publish the information, including an interview with the commando who killed him, at least 12 years after the newspaper obtained the information.

“I shot him with a long burst of fire. I was careful not to hurt his wife, who had showed up there. He died,” commando Nahum Lev told Yediot prior to his death in a motorcycle accident in 2000. “Abu Jihad was involved in horrible acts against civilians. He was a dead man walking. I shot him without hesitation.”

Dozens of similar operations have been attributed to Israel over the decades. But Israel rarely takes responsibility and typically does not comment about covert operations.

Israeli officials did not openly confirm the operation. But the censor’s decision to allow publication, after years of stifling the account, amounted in effect to confirmation.

The military censor’s main task is to block publication of material deemed a threat to national security. Israel has a longstanding policy of preventing publication of any information that would expose agents, tactics and intelligence gathering methods or put anyone still alive who was involved in harm’s way.

In the al-Wazir case, though, it appears that after years of rumors and foreign reports claiming to expose the operation, along with the death of the triggerman, the censor’s office decided to drop its objection to publication. Many of the details and identities of those involved still remain classified.

The Yediot report, coupled with a more detailed account in the military affairs magazine Israel Defense, described a well-planned operation months in the making.

According to the Yediot report, the operation was a joint effort by the Mossad secret service and the Sayeret Matkal.

At the time of the raid, the Palestine Liberation Organization, headed by Arafat, was based in the North African nation of Tunisia.

From a command post on an Israeli boat in the Mediterranean Sea, 26 Israeli commandos reached the Tunisia’s shores on rubber boats.

Lev, the commando, approached Abu Jihad’s home in the capital, Tunis, with another soldier, a man dressed as a woman. The two pretended to be a vacationing couple, with Lev carrying what appeared to be a large box of chocolates. Inside the box, however, was a gun fitted with a silencer.

According to Israel Defense, the fighter dressed as a woman carried a map and distracted the bodyguard by asking for directions, which allowed Lev to shoot him dead. Israel had tested the disguise earlier at an Israeli mall, and after the “women” received random cat calls the outfit was deemed sufficient, it said.

Another team killed a separate bodyguard and a gardener before entering the expansive villa. Lev’s partner was the first to fire at the Palestinian leader. When Lev noticed al-Wazir reaching for a weapon, he shot and killed him.

Other participants then “verified the kill” by shooting the body several more times before the forces retreated to sea and back to Israel, the Yediot report said.

“I felt bad about the gardener,” Lev told Yediot. “But in an operation such as this you have to make sure that any potential resistance is neutralized.”

The Palestinians have long accused Israel of being behind the assassination.

Abbas Zaki, a top official in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah movement, said the Palestinians and Tunisia should now “work to bring Israel to justice.”

Zaki said the Palestinians hope their bid to gain upgraded observer status at the United Nations next month will enable them to join the International Criminal Court where they can “pursue Israel for its crimes against our people.”

Al-Wazir’s son, Jihad al-Wazir, who currently heads the Palestinian central bank, said the family had no comment.

On the surface, Wazir was a quiet, soft spoken figure in an organization replete with flamboyant characters. He eschewed the high-living that tainted some PLO figures during the organization’s years in Beirut, with its night clubs and cafes. That enabled him to maintain the respect of all the factions within the often deeply divided PLO.

But behind the mild, non-threatening facade was a man capable of using brutality and bloodshed to advance the cause of Palestinian independence. He was largely responsible for organizing PLO underground cells within the West Bank and Gaza. He maintained close ties to Soviet Bloc countries that were a source of weapons and political support, even as Arafat himself was reaching out to the West.

Al-Wazir had long been wanted in a series of deadly attacks against Israeli civilians. Among them, he masterminded a 1975 hostage taking at a Tel Aviv hotel in which 11 Israelis were killed, and a 1978 attack on an Israeli bus that killed 38 Israelis.

At the time of his death, he was a main organizer of the first Palestinian uprising against Israel, which began in December 1987, four months before he was killed.

Israel has carried out similar assassination operations in the past, including the killing of top leaders of Black September, the Palestinian group that carried out the massacre of 11 members of the Israeli delegation to the 1972 Munich Olympics.

It is also suspected of a series of other plots it has never confirmed or denied.

Among the most prominent:

— In 1995, the founder of the Islamic Jihad group Fathi Shikaki was gunned down in Malta by a man on a motorcycle in an attack widely attributed to Israel.

— In 2008, Imad Mughniyeh, a top commander in the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, was killed by a bomb that ripped through his car in Damascus, Syria. Hezbollah and its primary patron, Iran, have blamed Israel for the killing.

— In 2010, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, a top Hamas operative, was killed in a Dubai hotel room in an operation attributed to Israel’s Mossad.

Iran also blames Israel for covert plots against its nuclear program and the killing of top scientists. In turn, Iran and Hezbollah have been blamed for various attacks on Israelis abroad.

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Comments (104 Comments)

  • Shit me passport is missing

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  • EJPC 01/11/12 #

    Terrorists

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  • Israel will never have peace. I know this wont be a popular comment but the creation of a Jewish state in Israel was a mistake. I know the arguments in favour but it can only survive with massive support from the US. If for some reason Jewish votes were no longer important in the US elections, where would that leave Israel.

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    • It was more than a mistake, it was a monstrous injustice for those who were ethnically cleansed from the land.

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    • i may stand corrected but was did mountbatton have a hand in it

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    • E D 01/11/12 #

      Balfour I think

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    • Foreign Office, December 2nd 1917

      Dear Lord Rothschild,

      I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

      “His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
      I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation

      Arthur James Balfour

      (The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom’s Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.)

      Another very interesting fact is that the vast majority of Jewish peoples today have absolutely no ancestral connection to Israel/Palestine – they are converts to Judaism from the middle ages – read up on the Khazarian empire.

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    • Arthur Koestler gives a history of the Khazars in his book The Thirteenth Tribe(1978).

      Also Chaim Weizmann, Russian chemist and Israel’s first president, developed a synthetic plasticiser vital to cordite production during the imperial Great War(ongoing)which he donated ‘gratis’ to Britannia as trade for promoting the Zionist project.

      Appropriate that this racist/sectarian outlaw state is founded on a constituent of gunpowder.
      That said, two millennia of European racist/sectarian anti-semitism means Jewish fears of extermination are not paranoia. The tragedy is that Israel today collaborates with its historical Jewish persecutors in a new anti-semitic crusade against Islam(often a far more tolerant creed to their ‘Christian’-expelled refugees as Islam sees itself as descended(as people of the book) from both Judaism and Christian traditions of prophesy. The Palestinians and Arabs are Semitic peoples, it is the Caucasian who seems infected with a recidivist racist superiority/inferiority sub-human fixation.

      For an interesting insight into background, unwritten(until recently),on the imperial cynicism and diversion of post-Holocaust refugees to Palestine to garrison the black-gold reservoir for the WASP victors to ensure ongoing hegemony see ‘Human Smoke, The beginnings of WW II, the End of Civilisation’, by Nicholson Baker(Simon& Schuster, 2008).
      Schlomo Sand’s ‘Invention of the Jewish People’ gives excellent detail on the development of Zionist ideology in parallel with the pseudo-sceientific nonsense of Aryan theorising in European 19th century ‘respectable’ academia.
      Lotsa knots.

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  • The most ruthless terrorist group in the world and supported by the US war machine.

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    • Well said. The US supports them even when they attack and destroy US ships(USS Liberty) .
      Palestine is the world’s largest prison camp and what the Israelis did there is despicable. From using chemical weapons to outright crimes against humanity.

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    • They are pretty merciless alright. However, I think that the various branches of Islamic fundamentalism deserve the title of ‘most ruthless’ given their appetite for civilian slaughter.
      @ BLowe, the biggest ‘open air prison camp’ is actually North Korea, but your point is taken.
      The assault against the USS Liberty remains one of the most sickening false-flag episodes in recorded military history, and a truly chilling attempt to prompt and legitimize civilian death on an apocalyptic scale.
      It is the only case where I could bring myself to support the death penalty for high treason for the US authorities who participated in the sustained attempt to murder of their own servicemen.

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  • ‘all because the PLO love Milk Tray’

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  • Vincent Browne is correct.They are a cancer of politics for that region.

    Israel cannot take any criticism on it’s foreign policy, if anyone
    dare question them on it they always, go into viscous attack dog mode
    use the terms “anti-Semitic” and the holocaust.

    Questioning their current foreign policy has absolutely nothing to do
    with either of those.

    They are the biggest bullies in that region, they have basically told
    the rest of the world to mind their own business when it comes to
    questioning if they posses nuclear bombs.”nuclear ambiguity” they call
    it.

    They make their own rules it seems.

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  • A criminal state. They probably killed Arafat too.

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  • james 01/11/12 #

    Guilty on both murders

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  • I always find it incredibly ironic that do many people in Ireland are so anti Israel and seem to excuse the terrorist attrocities the Palestinians (aided by states such as Iran) have inflicted on the population of Israel over the years… yet many of these same people are so quick to condemn and be horrified about PAST actions carried out by the IRA during the Troubles against a country that is still occupying six of our counties. I not supporting violence or taking sides in any conflict, just pointing out how its acceptable to support a regime whose aim is to get independence and wipe out the Jewish state… yet mention the IRA and its a barrage of comments such as how they brought shame, they murdered innocent British soldiers etc. Yes I agree Israel is in the wrong and has done some dirty deeds but Britain did plenty here up until very recently… but we could never have a bad word said about their history here.

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    • How is the above story related to the British/IRA and their in actions in Northern Ireland in “The Troubles”?

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    • mart_n 01/11/12 #

      “I always find it incredibly ironic that do many people in Ireland are so anti Israel and seem to excuse the terrorist attrocities the Palestinians”

      You’re talking absolute bollox. Typical pre-empetive response from someone that doesn’t actually care about the situation at hand; and has instead constructed a strawman argument as to why others should share your blinkered views.

      Show a few examples of where people here have excused Palestinian terrorism while decrying the same from Israel.. or STFU

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    • well said sean.paragraph after paragraph above details atrocities carried out by the palestinians,hotels,busses,munich etc
      but the israelis only sew retribution in the form of going after the perpetrators.

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    • @ mart n … I dont like your tone. If you don’t agree with my comments thats your right but please less of the STFU. Made you look very immature….

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    • @mart_n
      eh he just did. the above/below posts atest to his observation.

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    • @mart_n
      eh he just did. the above/below posts atest to his observation..

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    • mart_n 01/11/12 #

      Blasting into discussions like this mentioning totally unrelated stuff such as the IRA and Irish people does no good for either side. It’s not exactly objective to base opinions solely on how your neighbors have historically reacted to things. If that was the case for everything then no progress would ever be made.

      You said that most people condemn the actions of Israel while condoning those of Palestine. I’d like to see the evidence for that..

      For most people; saying that the killing of one person is a travesty; is not tacit approval for the killing of another.

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    • @Raymond,

      “The Israelis only sew retribution in the form of going after the perpetrators” That is complete and utter nonsense. In case you’re unaware (and you clearly are), Israel have :

      - Built a concrete wall, longer and higher than the Berlin Wall, straight through the West Bank which is deemed Palestinian territory. They have bulldozed entire (Arab) villages to build it. Palestinians aren’t allowed in or out. Farms and other properties have been cut in two. Prosperous businesses have been decimated. The UN has declared the wall illegal yet it remains standing.

      - Created the biggest open air prison in the world – Gaza. Israel have placed a devastating embargo/blockade on the region. They bulldoze homes and won’t allow the necessary aid/building materials into the region because apparently it has the potential to become weapons. They have actually admitted to calculating the estimated number of calories needed by the people of Gaza and allowing only that amount in.

      - Have destroyed and continue to destroy Palestinian homes and build Israeli settlements in their place. This is once again on what has been deemed Palestinian territory. These settlements have been declared illegal by the UN. Unsurprisingly, they simply continue to grow. Tens of thousands of Palestinians live in refugee camps. There are 30,000 people living in 0.25 of a km in Balata. Meanwhile Jewish settlers have access to all the main roads which Palestinians are forbidden from using.

      I could go on and on. The evidence is overwhelming. Sadly the world is very reluctant to confront a nation that has the enthusiastic backing of the US government. (which incidentally doesn’t necessarily reflect the views of the US public)

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    • Well said, Ciara.

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    • Sean your knowledge of this region is horrendously misguided, and intentionally so. It just is not possible to get the real story of know what’s going on, and indeed we are fed complete propaganda as Israel and its allies controls the majority of international press including Reuters and Associated Press.

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    • In the last 11 years where rockets were fired into Israel from Palestine,27 Israeli citizens have died. In retalation Israel has killed 1400 children alone in bombing raids on Palestine.

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    • Derek,

      Careful now. Mentioning all the children that Israel have killed, or indeed that the IDF have used children as human shields in Gaza, is racist and anti-Semitic!

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    • @ Seán, The reason they obsess about Israel and cower when it comes to the question of Irish freedom is because it`s easier for these internet warriors to be brave from afar.

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  • It’s a war. Shit happens. He sounded like a murdering terrorist but one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

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  • Shit lads anyone seen my passport

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  • shit mine’s missing too…..

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  • Why do people support the Palestinians?
    If it is clear to me that every liberal believer in democracy and human rights should broadly support Israel – and be broadly hostile to the Palestinians – why does the world not see it that way? Why does the world support racist, mass-murdering Islamist religious fascists who are fighting to set up an Islamist state in which there will be no democracy and no human rights?
    It seems the Palestinians have hit all the right buttons:

    They are (allegedly) the “third world” fighting “imperialists” – a cause many people will support no matter what kind of “imperialism” is being attacked, and with no thought to what kind of state the “third world” rebels are fighting to establish.

    They are (allegedly) “non-whites” fighting “whites”. The modern left, which is still in the racist world, cares primarily about crimes by “whites” or “people like us”. It cares little about crimes by “non-whites”. As I have argued elsewhere, this looks like anti-white racism, but is in fact just another form of anti-non-white racism, treating non-whites as if they are not adults responsible for their actions. Not criticising Palestinians or other “third world” or “non-white” peoples does not show how enlightened you are. It shows how racist you are.
    Of course, to think of this conflict as “non-whites” versus “whites” is actually nonsense. Israelis comes from all over the world, including all over the Middle East (from which they were expelled), and including places like Ethiopia. But for racists the world over (which includes most of the western left), all Israelis are honorary “whites”.

    They are (allegedly) the “poor” fighting the “rich”. The fact that it is their own fault that they are poor, and the fact that the Israelis deserve all of their wealth because they have worked hard to create it, is neither here nor there.

    They are fighting against Jews – always a popular target throughout history. The world has not changed that much. Prejudices don’t die overnight. After Auschwitz, the world should have changed forever. But it didn’t.
    If a second Holocaust ever happened, the world’s reaction would be similar to the first one. If its Islamic enemies ever defeated Israel, and the Jews were being rounded up to be gassed in concentration camps, the entire Muslim world would cheer. The western left would explain how the Jews were responsible, for having generated such hatred. The EU and UN would hem and haw and do nothing. Only America and Britain and a few others would try to stop it. How can anyone doubt the above would be the case.

    They are Muslim, giving them a sympathetic constituency of 1 billion people. Muslims tend to sympathise with Muslims engaged in conflict with non-Muslims worldwide. Christians aren’t like this. For example, the genocide of Christians in the Sudan is generally a matter of indifference to western Christians, who are interested in other issues. See the silence of the Archbishop of Canterbury on the topic of the persecution of third world Christians.
    If the Palestinians were Christian, nobody would support them. Certainly the Islamic world wouldn’t. And if they were fundamentalist Christian, the western left would despise them – and probably even support the Israelis. But, for some reason, fundamentalist Islam is alright with the western left.

    They are incredibly violent and barbaric, with savage attacks against the most defenceless of civilians, such as children. Due to the strange nature of humans, this gets them more support, not less. If they engaged in peaceful protest, nobody in the world would pay them much attention. But no one can ignore young people who suicide bomb restaurants and shoot toddlers.
    The Palestinians are not the most oppressed people on the planet. Far from it. There are dozens of far more oppressed peoples and hundreds of more worthwhile causes in the world. What is special about the Palestinians is that they are the most violent and barbaric of all (allegedly) “oppressed” peoples on the planet. Hence – due to the strange nature of humans – they get more attention and more support worldwide.

    They are fighting a democracy. A democracy gives open access to journalists and is a nice comfortable place for them to report from (good hotels, shops, restaurants, Internet access, etc.). Also, the journalist can attack the democracy in print as much as he likes without fear. By contrast, non-democracies allow little or no access, facilities are primitive and unpleasant, and journalists live in fear of arrest or even death. Hence, lots of journalists in Israel. Hardly any in the Sudan or North Korea. Hence, a war against a democracy will be covered in a lot more detail than a war against a non-democracy. Hence, the democracy will be criticised for its (minor) crimes a lot more than non-democracies committing really serious crimes. Israel gets more criticism than even countries that commit large-scale genocide.

    They are fighting a democracy. A non-democracy would simply exterminate or ethnically cleanse them, and the conflict would soon come to an end and be forgotten by everyone except historians. Who in the world talks about the Armenians now? Or even Bangladesh or Biafra? Most young people have never even heard of these – just as Rwanda will soon be forgotten. But a democracy like Israel cannot simply exterminate its enemy and end the conflict. It has to be far more restrained, and so the conflict goes on and on for years.
    http://markhumphrys.com/left.israel.html#why

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  • Kevin Niazi does not know what he is talking about! Have you actually been to Palestine? I just spent a summer there. It would be very hard to travel to the west bank and leave with the idea that Israel is a democratic state. That is actually laughable! Take a walk through any of the refugee camps, see the small kids walking the streets and tell me these people are not oppressed. I met some 90 year olds who were forced out of their homes in beautiful Jaffa and have lived until this day hoping and believing they will return.
    Furthermore Palestinians ARE Christian too. Ever heard of a little old place called Bethleham where Jesus was born?… I lived in an area called Beit sahour surrounded by Christians of various denominations who were against the Israeli occupation of their land. It’s NOT just a “Muslim” thing.

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    • Hear hear, Aoife. I’ve been to Palestine too. It is just shocking the daily brutality that the Palestinian people are subjected to. Kevin Nazi has gotten everything from the web; not only has he not been to Palestine, he’s not even read a book on the matter. It’s quite clear.

      The reason Palestinian refugees are not allowed to return (which is their legal right) is because they are not Jews. The reason West Bankers are herded like cattle into checkpoints where they are humiliated daily is because they are not Jews. The reason Palestinian citizens of Israel are systematically discriminated against is because they are not Jews.

      Jewish and democratic? Sorry, but Israel cannot be both. It is the former and only that.

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    • So what if you Lived there. Bleeding heart liberals go there all the time for their own agenda. Read very informative comment from Stewie Griffin the Palestinians brought this hardship on themselves. They will never get land back from israel. It’s like being a bully who picks on the little Jewish kid only the little Jewish kid kicks the snot out of the bully and his mates and says don’t come round here no more. Simple compairison but same thing. My liberal heart bleeds. Oh by the way I was in Israel on the coast. Beautiful country. Warm people. Really liked it

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  • Its easy for us to criticise Israel, but we are not surrounded by openly hostile countries that want to wipe the country of Israel of the map!

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    • When you steal other people’s land and displace them to neighbouring countries, said countries are likely to be hostile.

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    • Or just because their Jewish. The Muslims really hate the jews, and its not just because of the land issue. Many of the neighbouring countries don’t care about Palestine. Oh don’t forget the leader of Iran doesn’t even believe that the holocaust happened!!
      Not saying that I totally agree with what Israel are doing, but put yourself in their situation. You will be singing a different tune then!!

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    • Er, very sweeping and unfounded statement. The problem that Arabs have with Israel is they are Zionist – entitled to take whatever land they please in the area – and religion rarely comes into it, unless you count the support of America which is based on a whimsical interpretations of the bible to agree with these zionists. The Palestinians have always, and still do, support a multi religious united country for the whole of Palestine, based on tolerance and freedom of religion. It is the apartheid of Israel that is radicalising the remainder who would otherwise be tolerant.

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    • Europeans are unsurpassed in history for their propensity to hate and kill Jews. Through history, Jews have fared much better in the Middle East than they did in Europe. It was mass migration of European Jews with no connection whatever to the Middle East and the formation of an ethnically exclusive state that fomented resistance. That resistance was against the racist state, not against the Jewish people.

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    • What is unfounded by my statement?

      But Europeans have moved on since those days and we are more enlightened not to be blinded by religion

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    • It’s not opposition to Judaism, it’s opposition to Zionism. Zionism is a vicious, racist, ideology.

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    • Like Islam and other religions

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    • Non sequitur (look it up).

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    • Everyone notice it is David the pro Israeli who is using the anti sematism card. He does not like to see a difference between Judaism and Zionism

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    • Countries neighboring Israel actually have an even more shameful record of how they treat their Palestinian citizens.
      @ Alien8
      I’ve seen anti-Jewish (not anti-Zionist) propaganda on Egyptian TV on a visit.
      Islam is a religion of hysterical intolerance. Not only for Jews – towards whom a majority of Muslims are taught to direct contempt and hate (firstly for rejecting the prophet’s message and secondly for turning against him in conflict), but they are also homicidally intolerant of other species of Islam. Ask a Sunni about Shia or Ahmadi Islam for a flavor of their brotherly ecumenism.
      No group of people suffers more from the Islamic eagerness to hate than Muslims themselves.
      The only branch of Judaism that competes with Islam are the Haredim of Israel, who’s adult men will spit in the faces of nine-year-old girls for the crime of being immodestly dressed.
      Disgusting.
      But not quite as barbaric as killing your 14 year old daughter by her mother holding her down and her father pouring acid over her for the crime of looking at two guys on a motorbike, as recently happened in Pakistani Kashmir.
      Religion – all religions are potent reservoirs of pathological and psychotic behavior.

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  • People in Ireland stand with Israel, sadly all the nut jobs claiming their Irish with their eastern european surnames like to get on here and talk shite..Just look at how many of them turn up at their anti- Israeli racist Nazi type protests…no more than 20-30 people in a country of 4 million..says it all…Long live Israel and PLEASE continue to asassinate all the murdering terrorists claiming they do it in the name of land or religon when truth is they just want rid of the jewish race..So continue to stand up for yourselves and know that there is 3,999,970 Irish people wishing you well..Arafat was nothing but a thieving bastard who stole from his own kind and murdered innocent people to distract away from him fleecing his own…thank god he’s dead and burning in hell with his seventy fookin something virgins…

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    • If ever proof was needed that Zionism is a racist ideology Chris here steps up implying that I can’t be Irish because I have a particular surname. That kind of thinking went out with social Darwinism mate… well, it has remained popular among ardent racists.

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  • Petr, your on a roll this morning! I would never want to live in a country run by people like you. I find that I distrust you in whatever you say.

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  • It is amazing what crawls when one turns over a rock, looking at the likes recorded on this site of the most outrageous comments,
    The world community united to grant Israel its mandate to establish their own homeland on the land that they historically occupied. There has been a Jewish majority in Jerusalem since 1880. Most of the Arabs in the territory at the time independance was declared had come there from Saudi Arabia and Transjordan attracted by the economic activity stimulated by Jewish resident activity in a country that had been moribund under Turkish absentee rule.. There never was a Palestine although there was a Palestine mandate held by the British granted by the League of Nation after the WWI with the express purpose of establishing a Jewish Homeland.
    The territories that Israel recaptured were held by Egypt and Jordan for 19 years in direct conflict with the Resolutions of the United nations establishing two states. These countries never did anything to implement the UN resolutions. It was only after ’67 when the Jews were in charge that there were suddenly “Palestinians”.. Nothing to do with being anti-Jewish, of course, just those nasty Zionists! Stealing land! The land they bought from Arabs to settle on.
    The Settlements- in waste areas where 4% of Palestinians live,(many of them employed by Jewish farmers) located on 2% of the land. Land that primarily is land that was held by Jews before 1948. Jews that were massacred. Building settlement? Adding housing in existing settlements. Continuous attacks will obviously lead to actions in defense, murderers who have killed will obviously face retributions for their murderous action, if not immediately, eventually. Murderers must know they will face retribution.

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    • Max stating fact here will not do alot of good :) i said much the same as you did if you read my post yesterday and you only get hostile racist remarks by those who think they know something. Sure let them off they are happy in their own little world

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    • Max – I visualise roses and white doves emanating from the philanthropy and humanitarian work of the Israeli state when I read your posting – that must be the most warped and perverted interpretation of the history of that region I have ever read in my short life.
      The “purchasing” of an empty wasteland which is then invaded by hoards of vicious immigrant Arabs after giving them employment – is this what you are thought in your schooling?
      The masters of deception and manipulation of the extremist ultra nationalist Zionist organisation, of which you are a proponent, has done its work very well educating you.
      Israel needs the feeling of being under threat to survive – this is a well known pillar of the Zionist project.

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  • @ciara
    utter nonsense???
    if even 25% of what you wrote was fact,it remains clear that the Iraeli nation lives it’s life under a state of siege. less so today but it is a state that is sorrounded by an arab land mass 100 times and and an arab population 50 times it’s size.these “states” only view is the utter destruction of israel and the driving into the sea of it’s people.6 times in 60 years the combined forces of these states have attempted another holocaust only EACH time to be taught the error of their ways.This is why israel must take the stance that it does until more countries seek genuine peace as egypt and jordan have done.it’s not suprising that arabs living in israel have a better standard of living and quality of life than any outside,what would gaza and the west bank be like today if israel was given a chance from the start. the death of innocence is always tragic,truly terrible but a long list from the present is actually nonsense if not given the correct context…the past ie the how and why things came to be as some see them.
    ///for the poster who seems to think israel should fear iran…while iran is no push over, it is not for nothing that israel is know as the regional superpower.

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  • The PLO was founded in 1964 before the “occupation” to destroy Israel. Is that right?

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    • Incorrect I’m afraid. I think you’ll find the Nakba was in 1948; ergo there was a need for a liberation movement from that time at least. European colonisation had been doing on for some time before that, of course.

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    • Petr how come you think you know facts but when a well informed post by stewie put you in your place you call it a myth? I’m afraid to informed you your mind is closed and full of hate over some unresolved issue. Perhaps one day you will get that chip off your shoulder. Until then I’m sure Israel is quaking from you and your Palestine solidarity buddies. Till then I still but my tomatoes and I make sure it says product of Israel. :)

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    • Petr how come you think you know facts but when a well informed post by stewie put you in your place you call it a myth?

      Not true. I answered him by citing the work of two Israeli historians – Benny Morris and Ilan Pappé – which have thoroughly debunked the myth of Arabs attacking first in 1947/1948.

      your mind is closed and full of hate

      You couldn’t be more wrong. I don’t hate anyone and I base my contentions on peer-reviewed scholarly work.

      The rest of your rant is scarcely worth responding to.

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  • Pity we didn’t do same and remove the lead IRA terrorists, some who to this day are too yellow to admit the truth about their past

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  • So at this rate, we can expect Israeli confirmation of Arafat’s Polonium 210 assassination sometime around 2029…..

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  • Israel won’t even let in weapons inspectors, they won’t sign up to what ever treaty it is that says to declare what nuclear weapons a country has. And they lead the calls for Iran to be attacked for not adhering to these international laws? Pot kettle and all that. Why does Israel receive billions of aid from America each year? To stockpile more arms me thinks, it’s not like they’re starving tel aviv

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  • Khalil al-Wazir, a.k.a. Abu Jihad (“father of the holy war”) was responsible for the Coastal Road Massacre (or if you prefer the ‘Operation of the Martyr Kamal Adwan’) on 11 March 1978, in which a Fatah killer squad came ashore on the highway north of Tel Aviv, attacked a passing bus and murdered 38 Israeli civilians including 13 children, leaving another 71 injured. This was the most notable of the many killings of Israelis in which he took part or helped to organise. The Israelis killed him ten years later. It’s called a war, folks. The aim is not to bring your enemy to trial but to kill him.

    Incidentally, those who imagine that this holy war against Israel is a response to the ‘occupation’ of the West Bank by Israeli ‘settlers’ will note that at the time of the 1978 murders, very few Israeli Jews had yet moved to live in the West Bank or Gaza or to return to the places such as Kfar Etzion from which they had been ethnically cleansed by Arabs in the 1948-9 war. ‘Settlements’ were almost non-existent at the time. And after the 1967 war, in which Israel had taken over the West Bank from Jordanian occupation, the Israeli government had offered to negotiate the return of this land to Arab rule in exchange for peace. They were met the resounding ‘Three No’s of Khartoum’ at the Arab summit of September 1967: No peace with Israel, No recognition of Israel, No negotiations with Israel!

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  • I was on the middle of posting an explanatory piece but thought WTF I’ll summarise! It’s like this – stay the f@@k away from Israel just leave them alone and they won’t f@@k with you. They have no beef with anyone except those lunatics who want to destroy them. Let me tell you that Israel has no need of US support. They are well capable of wiping any one or combination of their enemies off the face of the earth!

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    • You should have been the head of the whole of our planet’s intelligence agencies

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    • true jordan, anyway a few annoyed irish people hardly gonna scare Israel. anyway not going to bother arguing, just dont send rockets their way and they wont be bombing you. fair enough really. oh by the way war is coming with them the US and iran but people here will defend iran, anyway ignorance is ignorance i cant be bothered with it. we shout when they illegally use our passports which is wrong yes but what about the Columbia 3 using passports to sneak here having thought death and bomb making in Columbia ?? never hear much about that. irish people are just racist, bred into us which is sad.

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    • “, just dont send rockets their way and they wont be bombing you”

      Just don’t occupy Palestinian land, drive hundreds of thousands of them from their homes, and expect them not to fight back.

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    • oh whats the harm in one reply i suppose. The British governed the region in 1922. The non-Jewish Palestinians revolted in 1920, 1929 and 1936. In 1947, following World War II and the Holocaust, the British Government announced their desire to pull out, and the United Nations General Assembly voted to partition the territory into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jewish leadership accepted the proposal but the Arab Higher Committee rejected it a civil war began immediately, and Israel was declared in 1948. back then Palestine would have been huge and its own state but they rejected it to go to war with another people who say it as there home also. Israel would not have stopped Palestinians living there it would in fact have been the state of Palestine they would not have driven them out. the Palestinians in declaring war caused massive displacement Israel during this war declared by Palestine captured more land and those Palestine that left did not want to live there under Israeli control. fair enough but had they not attacked Israel they would have there state and control fair more land in modern day Israel and would be in fact a much bigger country than Israel. israel began to secure itself meaning depriving Palestine of the ability to make war. go down the peaceful route stop with the rockets. simples, if we were attacked all the time from neighbours in europe we would be fast to play dirty. last post im not going to argue it

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    • MrKnow 02/11/12 #

      See its no problem attacking a group of Islamist in the Gaza strip or on the boarders but when Iran start firing rockets towards Israel i don’t Israel will be doing any firing back because they will bombarded by 200,000+ missiles and rockets at once. There is a reason why they want America to lead this war. Israel vs Iran alone is like you vs tyson, one punch and its over.

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    • You really need to read Benny Morris and Ilan Pappé. Jewish terrorist gangs were cleansing Palestinian villages from early 1947 — long before Res.181. What you have done is repeated an Israeli national myth which has no basis in fact.

      And you say Irish people are racist because most of us oppose this viciousness — really!

      If an organisation you were not a member of drafted a plan to partition your house, giving most of it to to someone else, what would you do?

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    • 200,000 rockets yeah right lol. All of the Arab States attack Israel before and see how will that went for them lol so please no talking out of your hate for Jews. Israel would wipe Iran off the map. The problem Israel does have is they don’t have the technology to Bunker bust and to monitor like the Americans have. While a strike would be successful they risk losing pilots

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    • The USA has slelth bombers little risk there. Personally of loce to see Arab spring extend to it as or that Israel takes away their ability. Can I ask why are people not vocal about Iran or north Korea both states that deprive human rights. At the end of the day Ireland and Israel are allies and always will be

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    • Iran and North Korea.

      Heres an interesting fact.
      Year 2000, countries whos central bank not controlled by the Rothschilds: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Iran, Cuba, North Korea.

      2012: Syria (in transition), Iran, Cuba, North Korea.

      What a coincidence they have terrible human rights and are completely evil and nasty.

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    • Wow has to be in as one of the most stupid comments I’ve seen on the site. Of course the Iranians don’t hang gays and people who get accused of petty crimes that’s only American actors. And in n Korea same story they all actually as ly live in fabulous wealthy and are all happy. The west just dies night want us to see communism works. Seriously do the world a favour and spare it your thoughts. Do a bigger favour and don’t pass on those paranoid genes.

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    • @Eye see all – A nasty little posting from a coward hiding behind your fake profile.

      The material wealth of North Korea and Cuba has been crushed as the money people punish their non compliance. Do tell me where you source your information on the going on in Korea and Iran. Amazing how we never hear any good news from these places. Oh yes evil Iran – so what countries have they invaded in the last 100 years? Oh yes nowhere. No mention of the half a million deaths from the Zionist led (Council on foreign relations) US invasion of Iraq.

      So is it me that is a paranoid and stupid as you put it, or are you a perfectly brainwashed unquestioning servant of the global elite.

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    • South Korea invaded by north, Israel invaded by just about every other Islamic country in region. Umm sorry but i think eye has very valid points. sorry for blowing your point out of the water

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    • lol excuse me petr for being informed on facts :) i do read alot pitty its seems to be all myths. Oh well maybe i should give up reading my history books. Maybe you should read more too and i mean stuff thats not propaganda. Just saying :)

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    • Stewie

      Have you read Morris or Pappé? What do you make of their research into the chronology of 1947/1948? Have you ever heard of them?

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    • Sorry to blow you out of the water, Stewie, but apart from the Yom Kippur War (you don’t know what year that was, do you?) Israel has never been attacked by an Arab state. They have always struck first. Israel is an expansionist state.

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    • haha if you think so buddy :) listen im calling it quits here no point arguing with you for the same reason there is no point in arguing with young earth believers, flat earth believers and those that just gosh darn it dont feel like believing in evolution because their minds are locked in what they think. i promised myself i would not reply at all and i did once but judging how you turn other posts with nothing about this topic into this topic (weed story) well your hate is clear. So not going to bother mind you i could debunk you all day long but whats the point i’ll have more fun doing same thing with my wall :) Ta Ta

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  • Gavin 03/11/12 #

    They’re a little too good

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  • Abu Jihad? We’ll kill him after the trial. WHAT TRIAL???

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  • Max – That sure is some glowing endorsement of the philanthropic and humanitarian work of the Israeli state. “Buying” land from Palestinians, cultivating the land, creating economic activity and employing hostile immigrant Arabs. I see you are an advocate of the Zionist movement. You have been educated well by the ultra nationalist supremacists.

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