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'I reacted with my training': Canadian ambassador on why he tackled an Irish protester

In a wide-ranging interview with TheJournal.ie, the ambassador also spoke of his admiration for Garda Commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan.

KEVIN VICKERS IS probably one of the better known diplomats in this country.

Before he became Canadian Ambassador to Ireland, he came to international attention when he stopped a terrorist attack at the Canadian parliament building in 2014.

25-year-old Muslim convert Michael Zehaf-Bibeau shot and killed a Canadian soldier on the steps of the building before attempting to enter it. Vickers, who was Sergeant-at-Arms of the parliament at the time, led the security team during the operation and shot the gunman dead.

This year, he was under the spotlight again after he tackled a protester who interrupted a ceremony to commemorate British soldiers who died during the Easter Rising.

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Vickers came up against criticism for his intervention, but in an interview with TheJournal.ie, he said he was acting on instinct, having worked as a police officer for most of his adult life.

“I grew up since I was 19 in the guards and I received extensive, extensive training and provided close security to heads of state from around the world throughout my careers so I’m trained to instinctively respond to incidents and I think probably the incident in Ottawa as well as the incident [here] it’s not me thinking it’s just an instinctive response that I reacted with my training,” he explained.

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You know I often think if I was a cardiologist, for example, and somebody took a heart attack in front of me, would I stop and think:’Well what are the repercussions here?’ You just intuitively act given your training and your profession.

Vickers also said he was impressed by “the love the Irish people have” for gardaí.

“I say that based on many, many conversations I’ve had all over Ireland and you know I think the guards are blessed,” he said.

“I’ve got to know Commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan and I think Ireland is blessed to have a person such as her calibre and character to be in charge of the guards, and they are Ireland’s guardian angels and they’re these communities’ guardian angels and they’re revered as such in all the communities I go to.”

Vickers remained diplomatic when asked what he thought about Donald Trump, stating he was “intrigued of all the different readings about the individual”.

I heard an interesting interview, one of our previous prime ministers Brian Mulroney was interviewed about him just the past week it was on our national news where he was of the view – Prime Minister Mulroney was of the view – that a lot of the election comments was electioneering rhetoric and that perhaps that given a chance he will do okay. So, I’m hoping for everyone that may be the case.

‘A person of values’

He had more to say, however, about his own country’s leader Justin Trudeau, who is a personal friend of his. Trudeau is widely regarded as a progressive leader, and has been strong on issues like immigration, climate change and gender equality.

Since November last year, more than 28,000 Syrian refugees have been welcomed to Canada. He has frequently referred to himself as a feminist and backed up that statement when he became Prime Minister last year and appointed a completely gender-balanced Cabinet.

Trudeau has also spoken in favour of legalising marijuana, having admitted to smoking it himself in the past.

“Justin is first and foremost a person of values, the values that come to my mind right off the bat would be honesty and integrity and he always had, I guess I would describe it as a concern for a less fortunate people, and so I think that its evidence in his priorities and how he conducts himself,” Vickers said.

The ambassador said Trudeau’s mother Margaret, who was herself an activist and who he described as a “wonderful, remarkable lady”, may have had some influence on his concern for women.

“He is just a very principled young man and I think Canadians are very proud that he is now our Prime Minister and he is taking these stands.”

There’s many, many tools in the toolbox, and those tools can include tools such as understanding, dialogue, compassion, education, a tool of enforcement or you know military involvement is a tool of last resort, and I think that is where he is at as well.

Irish heritage

Vickers has strong Irish connections, with his mother’s family hailing from Bantry and his father’s family coming from Arklow and Portlaoise.

Canadian Ambassador to Ireland Kevin Vickers in Dublin Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Charlie Flanagan, greets the then newly appointed Canadian Ambassador to Ireland in January 2015. Niall Carson / PA Niall Carson / PA / PA

“The people in Arklow will tell you that’s where I’m from and if you enquire with Minister Charlie Flanagan he’ll tell you that I’m from Laois,” he joked.

Where I’m from in Miramichi, New Brunswick, everybody is Irish, everybody is Irish. Primarily from west Cork but the names primarily at home that you would find are Hennessy, Driscoll, McCarthy, Walsh, Butler. Not only do we have the same names, I’ve since found out, that we actually look like one another, if you go down to Bantry or Skibberean and walk into a coffee shop you could be at home in Miramichi. The mannerisms of people as well are very much congruent very, very remarkably alike.

He credited the reputation Canadian people have for being friendly to this Irish heritage, which he said had a “tremendous impact on Canada in formation of our values”.

“So you know people say ‘you’re Canadian’ and yes I’m Canadian, but I feel just as much that I’m Irish, and I think many Canadians are that way.”

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    Gnik
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    May 17th 2017, 3:03 PM

    Just proves a properly resourced force is an effective force. We’re years behind other countries in so many aspects.

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    May 17th 2017, 3:10 PM

    @Dilly Dong: They are the Forensic Lab figures. UK got Thu type of database over 15yrs ago, our Garda got it last year.

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    May 17th 2017, 3:11 PM

    @Dilly Dong: if you don’t trust the Gardaí that’s your call, but the FSI is a completely separate organisation.

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    May 17th 2017, 4:45 PM

    @Gnik: I think everybody should give a DNA profile to the database when born or when you become a resident in Ireland…guarantee you there would be an increase in crime detection. Then we just need a judiciary to hand out the PROPER sentences to keep the repeat criminals off our streets. Before the civil liberties bleeding hearts respond….my only comment is if you are a law abiding citizen this will make your life safer.

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    May 17th 2017, 5:28 PM

    @Gnik: they could use it to work out who stole the money.

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    May 17th 2017, 5:30 PM

    @Mary Murphy: whilst personally I agree, those who are sceptical would worry that your DNA could be abused and you could be placed at scenes you were never at. Only need to look at some of the scandals in America to see one bad cop, can abuse that type of DNA

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    May 17th 2017, 3:03 PM

    brilliant

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    May 17th 2017, 3:05 PM

    @David Peate: yeah fantastic! Only about 20 years behind the rest of the civilised world, my house was burgled 3 years ago and the durtbyrds left behind a dirty needle, Garda had no interest cos no data base was available

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    May 17th 2017, 4:10 PM

    @john barnes: at least they have it now. But don’t let that stop you from having a good old moan

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    May 17th 2017, 4:27 PM

    @Darren Tully: who is moaning? I’m just pointing out what is being presented as a good news story could also be seen as a national embarrassment on how behind the times and under resourced our police force is

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    May 17th 2017, 3:28 PM

    Suspended sentences for all.

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    May 17th 2017, 3:29 PM

    First good news from the criminal justice system in years

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    May 17th 2017, 3:53 PM

    It’s hard to believe that we are only coming to the conclusion the DNA is the way forward, you gotta love the 1980′s

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    May 17th 2017, 4:40 PM

    We should have a national DNA database, details recorded at birth or when person move to Ireland. With obvious restrictions placed on access to it. Such would be a serious deterrent to criminals

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    May 17th 2017, 4:39 PM

    “Never doubted the benefits that would result from my pioneering Database Act”
    Alan Shatter is one mega pain in the asre.

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    May 17th 2017, 5:45 PM

    @Brian MacCarthaigh: But he did see the legislation through the Oireachtas and made sure it was properly funded when other Ministers had talked about it for years. If it is fair to criticise when you think a Minister is in the wrong surely it is fair to give credit when they are in the right? He is in the right on this one as he consistently drove and championed the legislation and the funding for the database at a time of public expenditure cutbacks.

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    May 17th 2017, 3:32 PM

    Crazy that this wasnt in place to begin with, next up is connecting them across the EU and the world.

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    May 17th 2017, 4:10 PM

    “a sample was submitted from a suspect who had been detained for a traffic offence”

    Does this mean the guards are collecting DNA for people committing traffic offences? Does anyone else think this is wrong?

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    May 17th 2017, 4:20 PM

    @Sean Claffey: No I dont. It helped them catch a rapist. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

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    May 17th 2017, 4:24 PM

    @Paul P O’Sullivan: “If you have nothing to hide you, you have nothing to worry about”… So why not just have mandatory DNA samples taken from everyone? While we’re at it, give the government access to everyone’s online accounts, phone records, email….

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    May 17th 2017, 5:10 PM

    @Sean Claffey: If you commit a crime rhat requires court your DNA should be taken.

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    May 17th 2017, 5:52 PM

    @Paul P O’Sullivan: only after conviction.

    Perhaps the man wasn’t guilty of a traffic offence.

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    May 17th 2017, 10:54 PM

    @Sean Claffey: Keeping in mind that some traffic offences are incidents like dangerous driving and dangerous driving causing death or injury I don’t believe that to be disproportionate at all. In the UK it’s very simple; you’re arrested on suspicion of an (any) offence and you get sampled, end off…

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    May 17th 2017, 3:32 PM

    Solved != Convictions

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    May 17th 2017, 4:41 PM

    Just think if they had of created their database when Britain brought theirs online 20yrs ago how those stats would read now..

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    May 17th 2017, 4:44 PM

    @The Viking: did u have to post that while I was still typing my comment?

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    May 17th 2017, 4:42 PM

    I was never a big fan of Alan Shatter. The UK introduced a DNA on April 10 1995. It takes us 20 years to get our act together. It’s nothing to get excited about. Great idea to follow the UKs lead 20 years later the tweet should read.

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    May 17th 2017, 5:47 PM

    @Sean: The database should have been introduced earlier but Shatter was the one who got it done and who made sure it was funded when everything else was being cut back. It is fair to credit him.

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    @Bar Bar Drinks: Next time, use a sock.

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    @Matty kinevan:
    An empty Tayto bag is more effective than a sock. Cautionary note: don’t use empty salt ‘n vinegar bags

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    @Nick Allen: More of a Spicy Monster Munch man myself

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    May 17th 2017, 10:25 PM

    20 years too late

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