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Public sector workforce falls by 2,000 in first quarter of 2011

The latest figures included news that 2,305 posts were shed in the health area.

Brendan Howlin
Brendan Howlin
Image: Niall Carson/PA Wire/Press Association Images

THE NUMBER OF people working in the public sector has fallen by 2,000 in the first three months of 2011.

Minister for public expenditure and reform Brendan Howlin announced the figures in a statement today saying that reductions “reflect the Government’s determination to take control of the public finances and to reduce the size of the public service”.

A total of 303,457 people were employed in the public sector at the end of March, down from 305,402 at the end of 2010.

The government is looking to reach a target of 302,000 public service posts by the end of this year.

The latest figures also show, according to the minister, that the total exchequer pay bill for 2011 so far is in line with estimates of €15.7 billion by the end of the year.

The biggest fall in employment in the public sector saw 2,305 posts shed in the health sector.

The only sectors that gained employment were defence – 128  posts and social protection – 979 posts, although this included a transfer of 957 welfare officers from the Health Service Executive to the department of social protection.

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  • Well I work in the public sector and 2 out of the 5 supervisors in my dept (I’m one of those left). I’m paid less, work harder, no-one to cover hols, days off etc and we are still expected to give same standard of care. get no thanks either cos the staff are so unionized they do no extra!

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  • What’s interesting is much of the publics attitude to the public service, like it’s some abstract office building where nothing is done and costs millions. Nothing in this country is possible without the intervention of public servants. From the food you put in your mouth to picking up the publics shit involves the expertise of public servants.. It’s not just firemen , Garda and nurses that are essential services. Ok the service has to be provided at a reasonable cost but the reason you dint have baby milk poisonings in this country .. Unlike China .. Is that there are very competent people looking after that in the state services here. Another thing is that most public servants are low paid and many are on the bread line as we speak. Yes we have to cut our clothe to meet our measure but if you cut it too much you end up with your arse hanging out. Being a public servant is seen as a bad job in good times and a good job in bad times. After listening to my contemporaries in the private sector through the boom talking about the price if a new sail for their boat, their new BMW, chippies charging 100 euro to hang a door and people being screwed for the smallest household job the worm has turned. Most of the anti- public service hyperbole is driven by capitalist media .. The agenda is set.. The public service will be stripped down but don’t be whinging when the phones aren’t answered .. The is theirs nobody there to pick it up.

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    • Aside from the front line services however…

      The public service is wildly over staffed at the administrative and so called management levels. Some article I read recently said there were over 2000 people employed in Human Resources alone in the health service!! And the payment people are taking home from grade 4 (junior admin) upwards is by private sector standards absolutely scandalous considering the lack of formal qualifications or actual professional experience in some functions. And this is despite a pretence at competency based recruitment.

      In the private sector a generalist in HR in a stand alone role might if they are lucky take home €45-50k PA in total, based in a 40 hour week with 20 days annual leave plus public holidays, with no other benefits, demanding at least an undergraduate honours degree if not a masters degree and professional accreditation in an SME with say 500 staff. And if they don’t do their job well they will be fired. And if their organisation needs to cut headcount by redundancy they are as likely to lose their job as any other employee in the private sector. And if their organisation needs to make pay cuts they are as likely to have to take a cut in pay or work reduced hours but still get the job done as any other private sector worker.

      A person with no formal 3rd level qualification at grade 4 in the health service pay scale can expect to take home over €40k!! Plus a long list of benefits and compensations better leave flexi-time paid sick leave job security and so on and so forth.
      To be a senior HR manager, grade 7 or 8 all you need to have is enough time served in any area of the organisation to land a role, you do not need specific qualifications or accreditation or even relevant professional experience and can earn over €95k PA based on a 33.45hr week 33 days leave plus public holidays and having a staff of 4 and basically only really dealing with a head count of the average small company. Add to this the pensions and paid sick leave which is almost viewed as additional annual leave, flexi-time annual pay increments which have no bearing on competence capability or performance and countless other benefits which you just don’t get in the private sector and job security – heaven forbid we enforce involuntary redundancy (in the way it is all too common in the private sector) I’m surprised anyone wonders why the country is broke.

      There is no accountability and no such thing as performance related reward, a culture of ass covering and passing the buck and a serious cultural problem in respect to the manner in which people communicate with each other in the workplace and no concept of innovation or strategic thinking or working. But then they are employees of the government or are government supported on the same model and out of the above list of characteristics it is hardly any wonder that such attitudes and behaviours filter down, is it?!

      And some of you wonder why private sector commercially focussed workers ie: people with qualifications and professional accreditations in profit based organisations have a problem with the headcount and the salary levels of public sector workers.

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  • Apart from retirements. Howlin is just juggling figures from one Dept. to the next…great work..

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  • Dear sure2bsure, I have worked in the public sector and my comments are based on experience and observable and verifiable fact. I shall also reiterate I was not talking about frontline services, however I have experienced more commitment and employee engagement in the private sector in comparable jobs. A sector with vastly less employment security. And furthermore I do not see how you can defend the lack of relevant qualifications within the ranks as some pseudo socialist equaliser to those you see as over privileged – ie those with an education. Most people I know who went to college had to work through college and came from working class backgrounds. I don’t see why this country and the tax payer should pay through the nose for institutionalised mediocrity – especially as it is actually more costly than employing professionals with the appropriate education training and experience. And if your only answer to the extremely costly problem of the public services is to go on strike then you have proven my point in regard to lack of actual employee engagement in the sector – it seems your main concern is the god You accused private business owners of worshiping…

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  • @Lisa, whilst I will not condone personal and offensive attacks here or anywhere else and do support your right to voice your experience as you see it, if you are working in a hospital I find it very difficult indeed to accept that you have to make sure nothing goes wrong all on your own. Furthermore as noted above most people are upset at the wastefulness and the incompressible levels of pay in the public service compared to the nearest private sector comparator. If you are a catering supervisor I expect you are probably paid and compensated through pensions and other benefits at a much higher rate for the hours you work than the executive head chef in The Raddison – you might want to consider that when attempting to try to understand why the private sector has it’s gripes.

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    • I doubt that Roisin ever contemplated a career in the public service herself considering the pay and conditions are so good. Once upon a time it was looked on as an alternative route to middle class when access to third level was much more restricted. Now it is a target for the vitriol of the private sector.Apply the same terms of employment to the public sector as in the private sector .. Who in their right mind will work in the public sector except those with some mislead notion of vocation? That is a virtue you won’t find in the money grabbing private sector. .. a sector where the euro is God. You can turn out as much anti public sector propaganda as you want but come to terms with the fact that we are all in this mess together.. Both sectors need each other to function. I for one am tired of the absolute cheek of those elite business people that continue to pontificat from their ivory towers. Everyone else should suffer to maintain them in the lifestyle they are accustomed too. Getting to the level of pay talked about is subject to a long series of increments. .. Another area of complaint from the private sector. I agree that there are way too many middle managers. I also agree that many of the top managers are paid too much. Public servants have been patient, we have shed staff and taken substantial paycuts … Keep pushing the envelope and we’ll eventually walk out … Someone else can look after your elderly mother, your addicted son, check your food for contaminants..i think an all out strike is about all that will garner some respect for the work we do.

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  • I don’t appreciate being told to piss off! And yes there is a whole hospital of about 1000 patients, staff, visitors to be looked after and when trying to make sure nothing goes wrong and all alone it’s not easy! I have to ensure high quality of food, care, and yes I do have a lot of staff to supervise.
    Don’t for a second believe that we are all sitting around checking our bank balances. I’ve lost so much and can’t even take a day off. We are expected to give give give and keep quiet.
    So please don’t swear at me because i don’t swear at anyone, I have an open mind.

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  • As to the comment about phones not being answered. They very rarely were at the best of times.

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  • @ Lisa. Jesus, 5 supervisors? Where do you work? NASA? Honestly, the country is fucked if the public sector cant just pull up their socks and work as hard as the rest of us without moaning about having to work harder.

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