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Column Calorie counts on menus? Not in my restaurant.

The suggestion that all restaurants could display calorie counts is farcical – and it won’t help tackle obesity, argues Michelin-starred chef Oliver Dunne.

Minister for Health Dr James Reilly wants to put calorie information on fast-food menus, and some have suggested this could be extended to all restaurants. But many restaurateurs question whether this is feasible.

In an interview with TheJournal.ie, Michelin-starred chef Oliver Dunne of Bon Appétit in Malahide explained why the proposal is “farcical”.

IF WE ARE talking about fast food restaurants, like McDonalds, no problem. But for actual restaurant businesses, it won’t work. The minister’s plan is actually laughable.

First of all, there is no one there to monitor it. To actually spend money on introducing this, and then not to monitor it just doesn’t make sense. It is a waste of people’s time and tax payer’s money.

This is how a restaurant operates. You come in that day, and you decide what should be on the menu. You see there is sea bass there, cabbage and carrots are coming in today – so that will make a nice meal. This is what happens on a daily basis.

If you have to wait for calorie counts to come in, the process would be: I would come up with a dish I want to prepare for the dinner service. Then I would have to send it away to a dietician or a nutritionist. They would have to analyse it. If I use any other ingredients – like adding ketchup maybe to create a sauce – then I would have to get onto the manufacturers of that sauce, like Heinz, so I can get the exact breakdown of the ketchup.

Heinz isn’t going to be in hurry to provide me with that information, and might even charge for it. I wouldn’t imagine you would get an accurate response back for about a month. Then that meal would be allowed on the menu.

But restaurants simply don’t operate that way. We don’t specify if we put five green beans on a plate, or if we put exactly 20g of butter in a dish.

‘Healthy eating is not about eating out’

The issue of obesity has been given as a reason to introduce this. I would argue that it is generally not obese people that go to restaurants as such. For one thing, very few of the actual population dine out regularly. Children are obese because of bad parenting – simple as that.

Healthy eating is not about eating out at restaurants. Healthy food and eating correctly is more about the portions you eat on a daily basis, or the amount of crisps or chocolate you eat while watching the TV, drinking cans of beer. That is what causes unhealthy people and obesity, not going to restaurants.

If the minister for health is proposing to spend money on this, he should be looking at spending money on education, on teaching parents and children to cook responsibly. There have been studies done by dieticians that show that some low-income families order in two or three times a week – pizza one night, Chinese food the next.

Perhaps they could look at a tax break of some sort whereby you go off and learn how to cook probably; it would save money from the health system in the long run. People simply don’t know how to cook any more.

This cannot happen, full stop. It factually cannot be achieved. They tried it in America, and they could not do it. No disrespect to Ireland, but if the United States of America tried to do this and they failed, it is just not going to work here. People are not going to spend thousands of euros out to see how many calories are in each of their dishes.

If this was implemented I don’t think it would have a huge effect on people going to restaurants. People might pay attention to it for the first couple of weeks, but then I don’t think people would even notice.

Oliver Dunne is the owner and head chef of Bon Appétit in Malahide, Co Dublin. Byline photo by James Horan/Photocall Ireland.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:23 PM

    If you are over 18 and are not vaccinated you should be charged for the testing.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:29 PM

    @Homes: And in that case they just would get tested.
    Would it not be more beneficial to know where the cases are rather than have people out there who may suspect they’re infected but the cost of the test puts them off getting tested. They go about their business in ingnorance and infect others.

    Great plan.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:31 PM

    @Homes: Pity there’s not a charge for hatred against your fellow country person. I’m vaccinated and I am sick of this division perpetrated by some on their moral high horse.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:41 PM

    @LaoisWeather: The vaccinated/unvaccinated issue is causing relatively little division in Ireland. I don’t agree with the OP but people have a right to be annoyed that everything isn’t being done by some to fight this virus.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:47 PM

    @JedBartlett: what a comment

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:49 PM

    @JedBartlett: For once I’m agreeing with Jed Bartlett on this. There’s many reason some might not take the Vaccine, just as there’s legitimate reasons some don’t wear masks, but those arranging test’s have enough to do without having to check if someone’s reason is good enough.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:53 PM

    @Homes: ah yes I forgot you can’t get the virus when you’re vaccinated.
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    M0r0n !!

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    Sep 8th 2021, 12:59 AM

    @Tom: ah stop would ye? Just know that when this is all over, it’s the majority of us that took the chance to save as many as possible… including the likes of you. You’re feckin welcome

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    Sep 8th 2021, 7:22 AM

    @Stephen Boland: You’re a real hero

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    Sep 8th 2021, 7:24 AM

    @Tom: you can actually but are much less likely. You’re welcome for the correction. You don’t need to sign off on here. You know that ?

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    Sep 8th 2021, 7:28 AM

    @LaoisWeather: hatred is a string term. Frustration with a minority is closer to the truth. Note I’m not talking about kids or medically vulnerable. I’ll point out also though that the unvaccinated are the group spreading division. Fuelled by miss information online. If unchecked this group will cause other issues in society in the future. We just need to look to the events in Washington. Get vaccinated and this ends allot sooner.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:52 PM

    They should make 1 queue for people with an appointment and other without. People with appointment lose much time waiting.

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    Sep 8th 2021, 12:03 AM

    @Claudia O’Riordan: good suggestions, so it probably won’t be implemented

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    Sep 8th 2021, 2:24 AM

    @Claudia O’Riordan: that is how it’s set up at the rds testing centre, but the queue for those waiting still can extend for up to 1 hour during peak time

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    Sep 8th 2021, 8:42 AM

    @Claudia O’Riordan: agree, i had test recently had an appointment was there 10 minutes early. Told security i had appointment, they had me down, ticked me off list and put me in Q with walkins. i was there for over an hr just waiting. What was the point of having an appointment

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    Sep 8th 2021, 9:06 AM

    @Claudia O’Riordan: I brought my son to Croke Park for a test the other day. Queue was for walk ins. Appointments went straight to the front.

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    Sep 8th 2021, 10:07 AM

    @Claudia O’Riordan:
    That was the set up in the Portlaoise test center when I was there Monday. I waited for about 10mins in the walk in queue.

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    Sep 8th 2021, 12:44 AM

    Is it possibly due to the fact the system is being abused by those who are using it to clear themselves for international travel, or for going back to work after returning from international travel, despite the fact it has been well stated that HSE supplied testing is not to be used for that purpose?

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    Sep 8th 2021, 8:07 AM

    @Joe_X: how can they use that though if there’s no certificate of negativity provided? you just get a text, that’s not usable for international travel is it?

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    Sep 8th 2021, 12:00 PM

    @Miriam: Correct, you can apply for a DCC with a recent negative test result but it has to be from a list of specific private testing service as you don’t get anything except a text from the HSE and you need a cert to apply for the DCC.

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    Sep 8th 2021, 6:52 PM

    @Claire O & Miriam: couple the foreign guys that I work with supplied screen shots of the HSE result texts as proof of being clear to our company before returning to work. One of them used the HSE test facility to show his GP who gave him a cert to fly out. There are ways and means if you know the right places to ask.

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    Sep 7th 2021, 11:31 PM

    I’ve just posted a comment but it hasn’t been added.
    It seems a contradiction to encourage getting tested but no accepting random walk in tests.

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    Sep 8th 2021, 1:01 AM

    @Liam Mernagh: why? If they don’t have capacity then they don’t have capacity… would you rather actual nurses from hospitals were there to pat you on the arsed and tell you it’s going to be ok?

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    Sep 8th 2021, 2:15 AM

    @Liam Mernagh: they made it clear it’s because there are long queues. Instead people should book a same day time slot. What’s the issue here?

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    Sep 8th 2021, 8:09 AM

    @Stephen Boland: it’s says here they do have capacity- just take a slot online so it’s spread out rather than queue together for hours, still same day service

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    They have been very successful so far.

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    Must be a surge in testing again, I passed the centre in mallow Road cork yesterday and there was a long steady line of cars waiting to get in.

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    Outbreaks in Primary Schools causing the surge in testing requirements

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