well as far as im concerned they can get rid of the seanad now…that was their one chance to prove their worth to the people and vote for the people…they sold out..

John Whelan said on radio that the cut in child benifit was wrong.Well John, Suffer little children you Hypocrite.

What a short memory John Whelan has. He’s forgotten a few short years ago he was jobless, breadline & with a hefty mortgage to pay. Shame on him!

Seanad just passed on an opportunity to scupper plans to abolish it…

“Labour Senator John Whelan has apologised” Hopefully you will not be a member of the senate for much longer John and then lets see you help your community. How many pieces of silver did it take John to betray your own principles?

The one positive thing about this is that the people of this country are waking up to what we have as a government. Self serving, arrogant detached and utterly unfit for purpose. These Labour senators could have made one final stand before the referendum to abolish it but they chose to follow the route of the TD’s. Pathetic, sorry excuses for leadership.

Betrayed again ! It looks like their salaries and expenses are more important to them that the interests of the people !

Im trying t ostart a campaign to reduce TD’s huge salaries , take a look at
http://www.facebook.com/1525PayDecreaseForAllTds

Cowards, the lot of them.

Promises made behind closed doors

The lads in the pub were right, them free loaders in the Senate don’t give a monkies for the poor, I bet must are off abroad for the christmas to their holiday homes.

Labour are like the Lyons Tea ad, ” They are all-talk”

All of the Politicians in the Senate who voted for this Bill in the Senate should be ashamed of themselves, but in particular the Labour Party Members should feel more shame than the others!

Reason being that they appeared to be having a change of heart over the changes at the weekend, but all that went out the window after meeting Joan Burton!

What did she promise you people for your vote so that none of you had the guts to vote for your convictions?

You should all hang your heads in shame for voting to take food out of the mouths of young children in order to ensure that the rich are protected!

You have voted to take money off the less priviliged in society, but the Bankers and you as Politicians get away more or less scot free……..No wonder Politicians cannot be trusted but the people of Ireland will have the final say and will not forget what you have done!

At the end of the day only one man had the courage of his convictions and he can hold his head up high and that man is Colm Keaveney.

The rest of you in the Labour Party have no morals at all and I often wonder what James Connolly would think of the Labour Party today, the Party that turned it’s back on the people and broken all it’s promises so that it can stay in power!

I think the real issue here is that most of the sittin TD’s and senators don’t qualify for the fat juice pension till March. So they are hardly going to rock the boat now and put people’s moral issues before a juicy pension for life. Come on , this is Ireland , pensions before people politics.

Bye bye Seanad talking shop wafflers the fat lady will sing for you all soon can’t wait.

More despicable Labour members u-turning and caving to Fine Gael bullying?

No surprise here!

there are more citizens in this country than tds and senators, we can over power them!!

For a non-amending referendum (legally called an “ordinary referendum”), a joint petition must be presented to the president by a majority of the members of the Seanad and at least a third of the members of the Dáil. Following the receipt of the petition from Oireachtas members and a consultation with the Council of State, the president declares that the issue is a matter of such national importance that it can only be decided by reference to the people. At that point, the president does not sign it unless it is passed by the people at referendum within 18 months or passed by the Dáil after a general election and within 18 months. This procedure has never been used.

I think the time has come to use this procedure

A person living at home with working parents doesn’t get that

Bye bye Labour all because of the treat of taxing union subscriptions

What I’d like to know is, who wears the giant pirate trousers?

The Fine Gael senators were only adhering to the precept of their trade, to wit: ‘You can always solve a crisis by caving in.’ See http://www.ottosbunker.com for a Gothic version of Gilmore’s revenge.

Rob that’s horse shit! U could have a lad living at home whose 21 let’s say! His mam n dad work so there money is takin into pay! He might only get about 40 as it is and your saying cut it by 25? Lol also those parents might have to get other kids through college

So concerned with social welfare are governments. Keep the common poor little irish layabouts happy with enough slop and alcohol and they won’t start a rebellion. While the middle class sheep are to weak to start anything so get hit them with more taxes. The ignorant vampires know how to control the Irish it’s all so easy for them.

Rob zombie first off u must have mates who don’t pay towards the house they live and eat In, parents must be well off not to take a weekly wage (rent) off your friends love to live in their world because In the real world everyone has to pay their way! Me I hand over 70 euro a week for that I get dinners,hot water,ESB,A bed,washing done if needed and if the money is going around a curry at the weekend I also pay another sum towards loans that I have!!! 188 isn’t a lot but it does bloody help I don’t drink as I can’t afford it so yes 188 helps me and my mother who needs my money each week to help feed who is living in our house! Since she will have 10 a month taken off her soon and also as she is a carer with the cut coming for them every little helps!! Don’t generalise for every person you think doesn’t pay there are 3 people who do and depend on it!

Second no the social as far as I know don’t pay full payment of labour if both parents are working! Which is beyond stupid they don’t pay at all or only a minimum amount to an adult. By law in this country your an adult at 18 the guards don’t go looking for your parents at 20 or 21 years old so why should the labour??? I think your thinking of the reduced rates brought In last year for every person under the age of 25 that are new applications to the labour don’t get a full €188 a week it varies for each age group!

They did things arseways again. They should have cut the dole of single people still living at home with their parents regardless of age by €25.

That would have easily allowed carers to keep the allowance untouched.

Gutless and lacking miral fibre to stand up for the majority the people won’t forget this roll all of shame who backed the government cut backs.Lab party will be wiped out by the public and also FG will suffer similar damage as FF/greens/PD’s.seen the Irish political class still cower down to banks and troika demands and treat the majority with utter contempt.only way to address this is to become more like Greece instead of the gutless in bread gombeens we are perceived around the world.

Shane either way €188PW is too much for a single person, that on top of rent allowance, ah sure its a great little country. Its almost a complete welfare state.

The rats may go down in the sinking ship together. Follow the party line which is at their fuhrers behest. Sooner these and FG fook off the better n hopefully FF will stay away too.

Happy christmas to all the people who post anti government messages in unrelated articles !!!

@Richard – Because a lot of people living at home don’t have to pay anything towards household bills.

No they don’t rob because I no a lad in the situation

Cheer up its Christmas

Shane – people at home do get that much if they are over 21 regardless of the parents income.