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After Chavez’s death, Venezuela faces period of uncertainty

Expectations are that the government will hold elections within the next month as Venezuela faces uncertainty following the death of the leftist leader.

Hugo Chavez (File photo)
Hugo Chavez (File photo)
Image: Lindsey Parnaby/PA Wire/Press Association Images

VENEZUELA HAS BEEN plunged into uncertainty after the death of President Hugo Chavez, who dominated the oil-rich country for 14 years and came to embody a resurgent Latin American left.

Vice President Nicolas Maduro, who struggled to hold back tears as he announced his mentor’s passing, said armed forces and police had been deployed “to accompany and protect our people and guarantee the peace.”

Venezuela, still deeply divided after an acrimonious election in October, declared a week of national mourning, and a senior minister said a new vote would be called within what are sure to be 30 tense days.

Foreign Minister Elias Jaua said 58-year-old Chavez’s hand-picked successor Maduro would take over as interim leader pending the next election, declaring: “It is the mandate that comandante President Hugo Chavez gave us.”

Hundreds of Chavez supporters crowded in front of the military hospital where he died after a long struggle with cancer, weeping and chanting “We are all Chavez!” and “Chavez lives!” as soldiers guarded the gate.

“He was our father, our liberator. Nobody expected such a tough blow from destiny,” said Carlos Perez, a municipal worker holding a photo of a young Chavez in paratrooper uniform.

“We must continue building the revolution with Maduro, who will be the next president,” he said.

Venezuela’s closest ally, communist Cuba, declared its own mourning period for a leader who helped prop up the island’s economy with cheap fuel and cash transfers, and dubbed Chavez a “true son” of revolutionary icon Fidel Castro.

Argentina Chavez

An Argentine supporter of Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez holds up a t-shirt with an image of him during a demonstration in Buenos Aires, Argentina (AP Photo/Natacha Pisarenko)

‘Fallen martyr’

But US President Barack Obama – often a target of Chavez’s anti-American scorn – was circumspect, pledging the United States would support the “Venezuelan people” and describing Chavez’s passing as a “challenging time.”

“As Venezuela begins a new chapter in its history, the United States remains committed to policies that promote democratic principles, the rule of law, and respect for human rights,” Obama said in a short statement.

Shortly before Chavez’s death was announced, Maduro expelled two US military attaches and accused Venezuela’s enemies of somehow afflicting the firebrand leftist with the cancer that eventually killed him.

Chavez was showered with tributes from Latin American leaders, not just his allies but also figures like Brazil’s Dilma Rousseff, who hailed him as a “great Latin American” and a “friend of the Brazilian people.”

Russia, China and Iran also paid tribute to Chavez, who had cultivated close ties with bugbears of the West as a way of thumbing his nose at Washington.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Chavez had fallen “martyr” to a “suspect illness,” while hailing his close ally for “serving the people of Venezuela and defending human and revolutionary values.”

Chavez’s body will be taken to a military academy, where he will lie in state until a memorial service with foreign leaders on Friday.

Soldiers lowered the Venezuelan flag to half-staff at the military hospital, where senior figures in Chavez’s 14-year-old administration gathered before the cameras of state television as Maduro broke the news.

“Long live Chavez!” the officials shouted at the end of his announcement.

Defense Minister Diego Molero, surrounded by top military officers, said the armed forces would defend the constitution and respect Chavez’s wishes.

Chavez had checked into the hospital on February 18 for a course of chemotherapy after spending two months in Cuba, where in December he had undergone his fourth round of cancer surgery since June 2011.

Russia Chavez

Candles, flowers and traditional Russian bottle of vodka, placed next to an image of Venzuela’s late President Hugo Chavez outside the Venezuela’s embassy in Moscow (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)

‘Time for peace’

The once ubiquitous presence on state television and radio disappeared from public view after he was flown to Cuba on December 10, an unprecedented absence that fueled wave after wave of rumors.

Senior officials had sent mixed signals about the president’s health for weeks, while the opposition repeatedly accused the government of lying about his condition.

A new election could offer another shot at the presidency to Henrique Capriles, the opposition leader who lost to Chavez in October but insisted Tuesday that the two men were “adversaries, but never enemies.”

“This is not the time for differences. This is the time for unity, the time for peace,” Capriles said.

Luis Vicente Leon, director of the polling group Datanalisis, said the government will likely want to hold elections as early as possible “to take advantage electorally of the emotion generated by the president’s death.”

Chavez will be mourned by many of the country’s once-neglected poor, who revered the self-styled revolutionary for using the country’s oil riches to fund popular housing, health, food and education programs.

And like-minded Latin American leaders like Cuba’s Raul Castro, Ecuador’s Rafael Correa and Bolivia’s Evo Morales lost a close friend who used his diplomatic muscle and cheap oil to shore up their rule.

World oil prices rose over the uncertainty following his death.

Chavez died five months after winning re-election, overcoming public frustration over a rising murder rate, regular blackouts and soaring inflation.

The opposition had accused Chavez of misusing public funds for his campaign and dominating the airwaves while forcing government workers to attend rallies through intimidation.

He missed his swearing-in for a new six-year term on January 10, but the Supreme Court approved an indefinite delay. Beginning with his first election win in 1998, Chavez had worked to consolidate his power and make his revolution “irreversible.”

But his policies drove a wedge into Venezuelan society, alienating the wealthy with expropriations while wooing the poor with social handouts.

© AFP 2013

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Comments (90 Comments)

  • This is what RTE said about Chavez:

    “Chavez invested Venezuela’s oil wealth into social programmes including state-run food markets, cash benefits for poor families, free health clinics and education programmes. But those gains were meagre compared with the spectacular construction projects that oil riches spurred in glittering Middle Eastern cities, including the world’s tallest building in Dubai and plans for branches of the Louvre and Guggenheim museums in Abu Dhabi.”

    Obviously any notion of natural resources actually being used to do some good has to be completely ridiculed in the Irish State Media lest people start getting ideas.

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    • But you forgot to mention the the likes of Dubai have fantastic hospitals, roads, schools and other infrastructures.

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    • All of it built with what is effectively slave labour.

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    • And this is why there are food shortages, power cuts and very poor infrastructure after 14 years of this mans rule. 14 years of giving away oil to Cuba for free, selling oil to Syria and China at knock down prices. 14 years of total economic mis-management where inflation is rampant as is corruption.
      Where have all the revenues from the oil gone in the past 14 years gone? They haven’t gone into infrastructure!

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    • Dave
      We have natural resources? Now how did I miss that?

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    • Yes but not free or for all

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    • That’s right Mick, he snapped his fingers and made everything ok, maybe u look at the poverty levels when he came to power.

      And for all of those who bang on about Democratic rights. It’s not a Right if they can take it away from you, is it, it’s a current privilege.
      Now look at your current privileges and how they have changed. Now think about the US and see how they have eroded.

      It’s called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
      Asleep like a lot of Irish people are, allowing 4 men to run our country!

      Wake up!

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    • Punch. He had 14 years of unprecedented wealth flowing from oil sales. Are you honestly telling me that he couldn’t build world class hospitals world class power stations etc. Christ even we could manage that even without their resources

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    • Mick Jordan. Look at our Irish culture It s slowly dying into the hands of Europe and foreign investments Our wealth of mines and oil out in the sea are thrown down the drain. Thanks to the right wing scrum bags of FF and FG. They are not a party for the people but business. They don’t give a damn about the Irish culture and who you are. They want the joe soaps doing their work while they collect corporation taxes from foreign investments and dine with wine with their foreign counterparts This country can learn from Chavez bringing the pieces all back together.

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  • Viva Chavez. Simon Bolivar would be very proud of you.

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  • No doubt Uncle Sam will bring stability and eh, em, eh, oh, democracy! Venezuela is saved! Yea!

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  • Solidarity to Venezuela and the friends and family of Hugo Chavez from Irish republicans.

    I hope and pray the people of Venezuela can continue their fight against American imperialism and capitalism.

    Long live the legacy of Chavez.

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    • You don’t speak for Republicans, and as a Republican I detest the suggestion that he was somehow a beacon of freedom and light.

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    • Ah Fianna Fail and their nostalgic memories of Dev’s “Republicanism”. Republicanism based upon the theocracy of the Catholic Church. Fianna Fail selling our “Republic” is a far more recent memory to me, Sean.

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    • sean you are another deluded lunatic to think we need to hear from the criminals in FF about anything

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    • Now now Sean you should know by now if you’re not a shinner, you can’t be a Republican, Provisional, Real, Continuity, Old, Official etc. etc..

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    • TO BE CLEAR!…. I’m no shinner….. i don’t believe in magic beans and money trees either

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    • Kev, I don’t know what sort of Republican you are but if you’re a Socialist or Communist you MUST believe in magic beans and money trees. What’s that mantra/prayer again, “From everyone according to his ability and to everyone according to his need”, makes me weep.

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    • Thats why I believe in rised and a high tax base, to facilitate peope who were not born into the same basic luxuries most of us in Ireland are born with. I ideally would like us to follow the political systems adopted by countries like Sweden. They have a progressive welfare state that functions alongside the capitalists systems of the global markets, encouraging the free market but still regulating against selfish senseless gambling.

      But the Swedish have a high tax rate to facilitate this. Some people pay up to 60% but the price of living is greatly diminished due to government substaties. Last time I checked Sweden wasn’t the scary Red State you seem to paint along side socialism, every survey taken puts them near top of the list in every standard of living survey. They don’t seem to be in the mess the rest of Europe are in? Either that or they’re doing a good job hiding the money trees they MUST need to fund their progressive socialist democracy.

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    • Kev, Sweden is a complex situation because of its size, natural resources, stability etc but it’s not now a high tax rate in comparison to the rest of Europe. Sweden’s personal tax take is about 48% and the European average is about 42%. Many Swedes hate their nanny state and have left.

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    • Good god, even if that statement about Sweeden was true you’re clearly going to deny any aspect of socialism that clearly functions taring it with the same”Stalinist” system brush.

      “Individual income tax in Sweden is comprised of two major parts: A municipal tax rate between 30% and 35% and a national tax rate between 20% and 25%. In 2010 the national tax rate applies only to individuals earning more than SEK 372’100 per year.”
      http://www.carltonseniorappointments.com/sweden-tax-guide-for-freelance-contractors/swedish-income-tax/

      Did I not say up to 60%? It’s still far more than the EU average and they’re by no means the most wealthy country in Europe in regards to natural recourses.

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    • So each to their own on feck the poor. Nice man you are

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    • Well said Kev. Fianna Fáil were a “Catholic army ” in aid helping the Vatican propaganda here Rome paid for the rise of the party in their early years. The IRA admitted that they didn’t blow up the William third statue in Dame Street so who was it ? Don’t be surprise if it was De Valera’s Catholic propaganda army !

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  • What time is Eamonn’s press conference?

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    • Jimmy 06/03/13 #

      I wonder….also will Mao Higgins, “CLICK”, Paul Murphy et al all be dressed in black for the occasion…and Comrade Adams in traditional camouflage and sunglasses..as a mark of respect.

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  • I’m here in Colombia and the Colombians are unsure that its a good thing cause they will rig the elections again and someone from his party will get in!! So there won’t be any change!! The government up there is all messed up!! Big like home really!!!

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  • Well, y’know the old black ops boys are strapping on and boarding the overflight planes as we read this.

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  • The Army and Police are on the streets to “Protect” the people. Hmmm!!! I wonder.

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  • SteoG 06/03/13 #

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    The jury is still out on Chavez while he has done a lot for Venezuela and its poor, his record on the economy and inward investment is not so good. He was not an autocrat in the full sense but he did wield power to ensure things would seriously skew in his favour, he took no prisoners if you fell on the wrong side of him. Hopefully, the country will progress after his death and not regress into another pariah state. He is neither, the hero, or the demon some people are making out. The wild allegations about poisoning are ridiculous.
    According to some who post on this site (this is only my well founded opinion) the world we live in is a big bad conspiracy, where oppressive dictators, demagogue’s and theocrat’s are really good guys who are misunderstood. Really, according to them ssssshhhhh! it is really a plot cooked up by the freely elected democratic leaders (these are really the bad guys according to some) whose citizens enjoy terrible things like, free speech, free and open media, social welfare, health service, tolerance and religious freedom, freedom of expression, Justice, and the free market, how terrible. According to these misguided twisted few it is OK to deny people freedom on a whim, execution, torture, rape and mutilation is a given, and the secret state or religious police read you the following rights as they arrest you – “everything you say will be taken down, twisted round and used in evidence against you along with all the other false charges we think up”. If the people get a bit stroppy they will send in their Family Guy with his armoured division to surround your town where they will use artillery, heavy machine guns, and mortars to suppress the shouts of the unarmed demonstrators who they label terrorists, or else they will send in the soldiers and secret police dressed as civilians armed to the teeth to kill women and children. And the reason these oppressors act like this is because in their opinion it is part of a western plot to deny freedom and democracy to the oppressed people of the oppressive regime, it makes perfect sense, right! NO!
    You see to them we are all misguided “sheeple” and “muppets” they call us because they know better they have done their research (don’t make me laugh they do not even know what research means) they got their information from the controlled news media of the autocratic state (who of course are not biased) in question, they found it on the Oracle of truth, Google, or they read a book, some time, so to them, they are so well informed! NOT!
    Excuse my sarcasm but these people want us to take them seriously and I for one just cannot. I am reasonably well educated I have travelled and seen many places in the world some nice, some not so nice, I watch and read all the same media, I read many books and articles, I read many opinions, I look for well researched articles in journals, I am open to any line of argument that is based on good supporting fact and proper evidence, I explore all avenues but in the end, I form my own reasonable opinion based on the facts as they are, not as I want to see them.
    The funny thing is, to the wild hysterical conspiracy theorists, it is me, and others like me who are misinformed. Is that reasonable?

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    • denisj 06/03/13 #

      Hear hear! It’s also disturbing that the anti-Americanism – which in many comments is really not much more than racism – is just taken as a given. The very mention of the USA is often sufficient proof that the oppressor in question is/was really trying hard to be a good guy until ‘the evil empire’ came to impose its sick and twisted ways on him. If you have just discovered that America did some awful things during the Cold War and the War on Terror and many other points in its history you’re very late to the game. It shouldn’t make you think you are qualified to argue strongly about Chavez. Knowledge about Chavez would be a good start. Referring to more than one source (ESPECIALLY from media whose opinions you disagree with or don’t trust) might give you a more rounded view, instead of coming down hard on one side of an issue that is so far from black and white.

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  • Their constitution dictates that an election be held within 30 days, not that their constitution has been worth a damn under Chavez.

    http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/03/05/venezuela-chavez-s-authoritarian-legacy

    Are flags flying at half-mast over at the Journal?

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    • We don’t have any flags here at TheJournal.ie, Carl.

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    • all sporting black armbands for the day then?

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    • A very damming read Carl. But his supporters on here will claim its all lies.

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    • Citing one dubiously funded website doesn’t make it true. Stockholm syndrome and a serious case of denial is what u people suffer from.

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    • See. Here we go. The Judge wasn’t arrested, the media aren’t persecuted and he didn’t appoint his own people to the supreme court. All fact. But they didn’t happen according to some.

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    • Brian 06/03/13 #

      You’re wasting your time, Mick. Even if Chavez had sat up on his deathbed and admitted he had abused his power, persecuted the media and locked people up for the simple reason that they criticised his government, you would still get some people here saying it was the Americans who made him do it. I despair when I look at some of the comments on here, I really do.

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    • Not to mention Brian how they’ll follow up trying to themselves rig the elections and place someone who will get back in line like the rest of the “good boys” in South America who sell their recourses and labour to US companies at prices that cripples their economy and standard of living.

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    • You guys really need to read about polotics in South American during and after the cold war. These are facts about CIA activity, not some “leftist conspiracy”…. get a grip

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    • If Chavez was a good man how come the Venezuela he ruled is listed 165th out of 176 countries for corruption by an independent body?

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    • Are you suggesting that Venezuela would be flying high with the fate they’d be subjected to without his popular movement?

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    • if we took a leaf out of Chavez’s book half the commenters on the journal would be thrown in jail for speaking ill of the government.

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    • @Carl Douiglas – while the US constitution is worth a damn under obama – who defied it and went to war without approval of Congress – and NDAA is toatally against US constitution .
      Chavez reduced poverty by 50% and extreme poverty by 70 % . He fought off a US coup attempt in 2002..
      As for human Rights – compare it to US .

      taken from AJE article .

      ”America’s Depl0rable Human Rights Record By Stephen Lendman

      November 05, 2012 ” – Far and away, America’s human rights record is the world’s worst. No other nation approaches its unprincipled history. Earlier crimes against humanity were largely internal and regional.

      Twentieth century ones went global. New millennium ones elevated atrocities and other human rights abuses to an unprecedented level. It keeps rising. America is guilty of virtually every crime imaginable and then some.”

      Chavez did not invade other countries – and kill by the million from Vietnam to Iraq . His troops did not go into villages and murder women and children – and torture people by the thousand . He did not bomb other countries nor use nuclear weapons on civilians .
      Time will judge his leagacy – but he helped his people and helped greatly reduce S America being USA ”backyeard ”– as the Yanks liked to put it .

      even the New York Times’ Simon Romero concedes:
      ”Though [Chavez] met opposition at home, he enjoyed broad support, in part by going into the slums to establish health clinics staffed by Cuban doctors and state-run stores selling subsidised food”

      Bertrand Russell once wrote about the American revolutionary Thomas Paine, “He had faults, like other men; but it was for his virtues that he was hated and successfully calumniated”

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    • Jim, your last post/quote about the US is empty nonsense.

      Did “invading other countries” include defeating Nazi Germany?

      Your view of reality is no different than Tom Cruises or John Travolta’s.

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    • Mick, some people see and believe what fits in their comfortable blinkered view of the world.

      Was Hugo perfect? Who is?
      Did crime rise, yes it did, for many reasons.
      But u ask the poorest of that country if 14 years of Hugo improved their living standards and the vast majority will say yes, ask the elite the same question and you most likely get a negative answer!
      Why do think this is?
      Maybe all the media etc was controlled by those comfortable selling the nation natural resources, sounds familiar!

      Turn off the propaganda and Read!

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    • Punch. You say he wasn’t perfect but if you read the comments on here. He walked on water and could do no wrong.
      You say that the “Elite few” were selling off the natural resources. Unless you are talking about Chaves and his cronies it would have been difficult nay impossible for anyone else as he had nationlised everything right down to the local bakery.
      And as for the Media he made it a criminal offence to criticise him his government or any of his policies and closed down any paper,radio station or TV station that dared to criticise.
      So where did all the money from 14 years of oil sales go to? I asked in another thread and nobody would give me an answer. Why did he go to Cuba for treatment? Where are the world class hospitals the oil revenue was supposed to build?

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    • William, was it not the Soviets who defeated Nazi Germany? You know, those evil socialists?

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    • Rctv, who orchestrated the april 2002 coup d’état who spent ten years airing death threats to Chavez. Hmm not renewing their licence seems pretty tame. Imagine that happening in a ‘free’ country, jail time for the management and producers I would thing. If that is media censorship your clutching at straws

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    • The media station rctv orchestrated the April 2002 coup d’état, it spent 10 years airing death threats and actively encouraged citizens to kill Chavez. Now if not renewing that stations licence, and that’s all he did is media censorship then your clutching at straws

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    • Brian without the West opening a second front in the West and Africa the Russians the Nazis would have been able to put all their resources into the Eastern front and up to then it was as much back and forth with attack and counter attack to the point that the Russians may not have won if those extra resources had been released

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    • Something happen to freedom of speech daniel.

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    • No but I would think trying to overthrow ones government with an armed coup might be deemed an offence in some countries, also continuously promoting the assassination of ones president might be a slight offence. A media outlet does not have a right to a broadcast licence, it’s a privilege and I would. The private media in Venezuela is the largest sector in Venezuela, owned, controlled and with an agenda from the old white ruling aristocracy.

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    • Daniel. Of the 6 TV stations 5 are State controlled.

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    • Which is the largest.

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    • @ william Grogan – actullyit was USSR that defeated Nazi Germany – Ever hear of Stalingrad . The US came in when it was inevitable – after Stalin grad – that Germany could not win .80% + of WW2 in Europe was USSR v Nazi Germany .
      It is time people like u – took a bit of time and learned what USA is really like and waht it gets up to . Tthe Info is there – Znet , John Pilger , Noam Chomsky – or u can keep head in sand — up to u .

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    • Pilger & Choamsky are left wing wrong contrarians, frustrated by the collapse of Communism. Pilger will ALWAYS find fault with the US. The Communist dictatorship in the USSR certainly had a part to play in defeating Hitler although to do so he sacrificed millions of Russians. He used his enslaved people as cannon fodder. The USA is the premier protection for all peoples of the world from Fascism, Dictatorships and Totalitarian Communism. Your posts have all the hallmarks of a religious fanatic. Why don’t you go and live in a dictatorship and come back and tell us all about it.

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    • SteoG 07/03/13 #

      William
      That will never happen because aside from spouting pseudo history, conspiracy theories and crackpot political muck, they haven’t got the courage of their convictions to try life in the utopias they love so much. We could say it’s a reality check or knowing which side your bread is buttered, there is nothing wrong with a bit of fantasy, that is, as long as you are aware that it is fantasy.

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  • Hopefully they gain a lot more freedom by walking away from an outdated, authoritarian socialist system. This is like Venezuela’s felling of the berlin wall , it could be an and to tyranny

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    • What are you talking about? Do your research before you post idiotic comments. Muppet.

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    • A very well informed comment there, full of excellent points to change our minds , I suggest you stop looking at indymedia and the left propaganda machine and see what a tyrant chaves really was, the link to the human rights article in the comment below will tell you more

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    • Socialists are like all religious people, they live in denial.

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    • Did you private school William? Socialism is a real bitch ain’t it?

      Libraries! Now they’re our real enemy. How dare those socialists give books away of free. We’re beter off burning them, right?

      (past the sarcasm, the point i’m making is the “socialists” and “liberals” were once people who had the audacity to demand things like access to pensions, health care, education and basic working rights and standards. So please don’t lugg us all with the Sinn Fein, “Mé Féiner” support)

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    • denisj 06/03/13 #

      And Kev, many socialists would be doing a much better job of demanding access to pensions, health care, education and basic working rights and standards, not to mention fighting a really dangerous trend towards privatizing everything, if more of them did their research and didn’t idolize people like Hugo Chavez. Love him or hate him you have to admit that he did some awful stuff. Those who can’t admit that or just get lost in what-aboutery need to realise that they are behaving like religious zealots, because they simply won’t hear anything that doesn’t square with their view of the world.

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    • Kev, yes I went to a private school. My old man was a Sergeant in the Guards and my mother rarely worked outside the home. They simply made the decision, rightly or wrongly, to send me to a private school and not smoke or drink or take foreign holidays. But that’s freedom. With Socialism and Communism you have far less freedom. You CANNOT have Socialism and Communism without taking away personal freedom.

      Funny I oppose the state spending money on libraries (other than a few national ones) today. They are a complete waste of taxpayer’s money and are way past their sell by date. The mobile libraries are particularly ridiculous. I’ve seen them pull into Castleknock in Dublin once a week! Books are now to be had for pennies and most people have access to them. But then Socialists are great at wasting other people’s money. If libraries were a business they would have gone bust years ago.

      Did you read somewhere that non-Socialists were opposed to pensions, health care and education?

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    • Denis I do and i agree with you. I am fully aware of the police state created by Chavez. I do not agree with the blind following as if he is a saint also. But I can’t help but admire what he did for a lot of the poor people in Venezuela. Looking at what we see over and over again in South America I cannot see how the situation was anything but far worse before he got into power. I am a follower of amnstey international and keep up to date with the human rights absuses his government are accused of. Unfortunaly because i’m a realist I know that the polotical climate in South American means it would be near impossible to see a healthy government flourish without interference.

      Realistically I don’t have much hope of civil liberties in Venezuela anytime soon, if anything his death will probably spring a “cult of personality” which will allow the new regieme enforce stricter conditions on the ground. It all springs out of paronoia that the yanks will interfer. I’m not condoning it, but their paranoia is justified. The media was a joke in Venezuela anyway before Chavez, they choose they’re side long before he came into power. A fair, civil, democratically elected government is all i’d like to see without any communist nostalgia towards the Cubans. But I can’t see that happening anytime soon, even if Chavez was never born.

      and William, there ya go….(can’t actually believe your stance on libraries, you’re a funny man)….. bit of attachment towards the reality of your “freedom”. So how will we function? Privisitanion of health and education? I’d have real “personal freedom” if I was born into a poor family. I’d be truly free to live and express my potential having to leave school at 16 to work some crap job to make sure my parents can feed themselves. I’d have real personal freedom to live my life as i like with massive private health bills if i ever got sick.

      I am very thankful that I am not lumped with students debts right now. I am now free to work in a job that requires higher education and will apply pay taxes to facilitate people go for the same. Its all about gaining balance to ensure our citizens get the opportunity, equal to the privileged. Dog eat dog will never work in a fair society.

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    • RIP Hugo, you will be missed #The peoples hero

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    • You are totally wrong. No need for another comment. Actually your so wrong in fact it’s insulting. You must be Fox News student, ignorant misinformed extreme right wing view. You sir must educate yourself. Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador Bolivia have identical governments. Socialist governments, bolivar socialism. There is no media censorship. Oil money used to feed the people, educate the peopleand benefit the people. 22 universities built in 12 years. Americas 4th largest oil supplier and the GOP don’t like it so the slander him and his country with the rest of Latin America, they are an example to the eu in how to run itself. Hugo Chavez sir is a hero, a people’s champion who’s legacy will thrive through Latin America for years. I’m goin to ruin all that now by calling you an effing brain dead moron. Because that’s all you are

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    • Daniel, come back to us in 3 years when you finish college and hopefully mature out of your “idealogical socialist” phase that seems to plague all students these days

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    • Not in college. Millions of Venezuelans are thanks to Chavez . But I suppose being a blue shirt like you one can’t help being blinkered into supporting the rich. Watch Oliver stones ‘south of the border’ and educate yourself, you do not know what you are talking about.

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    • Daniel Venezuela is an economic basket case. All down to Chaves policies. Food shortages,Power cuts very little infrasturcture. He Nationalised everthing from the oil to the local store. I will ask again. Where is 14 Years of Oil Revenues gone? The medical system is so bad he had to go to Cuba for treatment. Why after supposedly spending all that Money is there not a world class Heath system?

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    • Where is the best health system in the world? Where is the best educated doctors in the world. He was not a good manager, but he was an immense people’s champion. Talk about the Venezuelan people. 72% of whom were in extreme poverty before he took over, now 12%. Talk a out the private sector which has now outgrown the state sector, speak about the cheap oil he donated to poor people in the us, the 6 billion he donated to Bolivia to pay off the IMF debt. There is massive infrastructure investments. The most important being the people. And away is wrong with that.

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    • The best Medical Facilities in the world are in Europe and America as are the best Educated Doctors.
      “He was not a good manager, but he was an immense people’s champion.” Thats great put it does not put food in your belly.
      What Private sector. He nationalised everything!!
      He gave oil away to the poor in the US, Cuba, Etc. While is own people are short of food and are suffering power cuts.
      What infrastructure? The Power plants that dont exist or maybe the Cancer Hospital that doesnt exist!!

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    • The best healthcare system and doctors exist in Cuba my man, the is has benefitted from that for years. The top 6 consultants in the us, 4 are Cuban educated doctors. Over 90% of children in Venezuela have access to 3 meals per day. Every schoolchild in Venezuela has a laptop for school. Homelessness has fell in to minuscule percentiles. They donated deisel oil and petrol to the Louisiana state in the aftermath of katrina. People and their well being is the infrastructure. What is wrong with taking people out of poverty.

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    • The human rights watch website is flawed information. It is usually a great website for info but it is flawed when it comes to the Americas. They published a report on 10 years of Chavez which was atrocious and when challenged they couldn’t defend it or back up the information. Google it. If you are getting your info from international media it will be flawed. Jimmy carter even said that the venezuela elections were the best and most democratic elections he had researched of 90 countries. And Chavez’s party won by over 11% even though the opposition has 95% of the media in its pocket. The state run tv station has a viewership of 5%.
      Venezuela has the 17th top GDP according to the IMF website and that is between the years of 1990-2012. Research my friend. That is including the 4 years that the oil companies were
      owned by the opposition who caused the oil strike in 2002. Since the Chavez administration got control of the oil companies the country has had a 2.5% yearly growth per capita. That’s how they could reduce poverty by half and extreme poverty by 70%. Unemployment is half what it was when Chavez took power. Not bad for a
      Dictator eh?! Tyrant my arse.

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    • A similar report was issued by Amnesty and the UN Human Rights council. All 3 reports are wrong are they?

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    • Daniel,

      “The best healthcare system and doctors exist in Cuba my man“

      The only study I can see makes France the best, and having lived in France that doesn’t surprise me, although it costs a fortune. Cuba wasn’t even in the top 36. Most of the top countries are in Europe.

      “top 6 consultants in the us, 4 are Cuban educated doctors.”

      Who could possibly decide who the top 6 consultants are? Deeply suspicious claim.

      The donation of oil was politically motivated.

      If you look at life expectancy tables, Cuba is 37th.

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    • Links to these reports Mick? I’m not saying he was a saint. But I do argue that he was very kind to the poor people of his country. He spend Billions on healthcare, education, food initiatives and community projects. He loved his people and tried to make Venezuela a great country. He made mistakes, of course but in my opinion nowhere near the mistakes that our government have made. The one problem Chavez had was that he really pissed off the rich that were in power before he came along. These were influential people with friends in high places. As we all know, rich people rule the world, so what’s to say that all this data isn’t coming from his minority of haters?
      I see that some of ye want to believe he was some sort of tyrant or whatever, I don’t expect to change your mind. But I strongly believe he was a great leader and I would be proud to have a man of his convictions and strength in power here in Ireland.

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    • “He loved his people”. What a load of bulsh1t! He loved himself. His family are estimated to be worth €2,000,000,000 and his crooked cronies are reputed to have stolen 10% of the oil revenues. That’s why Venezuela is ranked 165th of 176 countries in the world for corruption. How could you admire someone who made it a criminal offence to criticise the government? He used the oil money to buy votes like all tyrants.

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    • I’ve been reading up on Venezuela and it IS an economic basket case. It has one of the highest inflation rates in the world and without doubt would be totally bankrupt if it hadn’t oil. Oil is an amazing 95% of its exports.

      The socialist/dictatorial economic policies of Chavez have produced a country typical of socialist cock ups. There are shortages of basic foods and high unemployment. Read some independent sources and you’ll realise you’ve been suckered.

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  • Anyway, death to all the poor and free loaders. Long live the bosses and venture capitalists, the rich and the powerful.

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    • William Gorgan, your own political views are skewing what you believe to be the truth here. Like so many you fear change or an approach that doesn’t t fit to your predetermined outlook on how things work or should work.
      Hugo did more for the poor of his country than anybody in their history FACT, this is why he was loved, this is why he was re elected numerous times, and this is why so much rubbish and half twisted facts are used by those who have an interest in keeping the status qua, the elite.
      Your emanation of Venezuela seems to start and end with Hugo. Look at the history look at the previous history of poverty.
      Then ask yourself why US oil companies prices rose the day he died.
      Then look at the recent history of Latin America, since the US has adapted, made adopt a non interference role, Latin America has boomed,, why is that?
      Does the term B.R.I.C mean anything do you

      these figures are broadly ranging from 1999 – 2011
      Sources: World Bank, UNHCR, Reuters, OPEC, EIA, IMF, UNODC and INE

      Population growth (annual%) 1.9 1.5
      Population, total 23,867,000 29,278,000
      GDP per capita (current US$) 4,105 10,810
      Unemployment, total (% of total labor force) 14.5 7.6
      Colombian refugees (and people in refugee-like situations) in Venezuela 50 201,941
      Mortality rate, infant (per 1,000 live births) 20 13
      Households (% of total declared) Extreme poverty – second half 19.3 7
      Currency exchange rate (Bolivars to one dollar) 0.56 4.29

      there are some good and some bad, but this is to be expected with any serious change in the philosophy of a country and some were inflected upon them due to this change from outside injured parties.

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