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Government will seek to legalise some cannabis-based products

The Department of Health has said it will bring forward legislative proposals later this year or early next year to allow cannabis-based medicinal products to be prescribed here.

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THE GOVERNMENT HAS said that it will seek to introduce changes to current law to allow for the use of some cannabis-based products for the treatment of medical conditions such as multiple sclerosis (MS).

The Department of Health has said in statement that “not withstanding the reluctance to loosen the current controls on cannabis” having sought expert advice it is now of the view that the drug, Sativex, is a valid treatment.

Legislative proposals will be put forward later this year or early next year, the Department said having determined that Sativex “is a valid treatment option”. The story was first reported by RTÉ.

Sativex, which contains cannabis extract, is already available in a number of European countries including in the UK but its use here has been prevented by the provisions of the Misuse of Drugs Act.

Now the government has said that it will bring forward legislative proposals either later this year or early next year that will legalise authorised cannabis-based medicinal products while maintain existing controls on cannabis and cannabis substances.

A statement from the Department said: “While the legislative amendments required can be made by means of statutory instrument, the legal issues are complex.

“While  it  is  not  possible  to set out an exact timeframe, it is hoped to bring forward legislative proposals in late 2012 or early 2013.”

The drug, developed by GW Pharma, is used for the relief of symptoms of spasticity for patients suffering from MS and contains cannabis extract.

It is administered as an oral spray and is also being trialled for alleviation of cancer pain.

The Irish Medicines Board has already completed its assessment of Sativex and has recommended the approval of it for the Irish market.

MS Ireland has long called for the drug Sativex to be made available in Ireland to MS patients. The government first indicated that it was considering approval for the oral spray last November.

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  • As someone who has very progressive MS and no other treatment has worked for – and believe me there have been many – I would like to be given a chance to try it. Anything that can help me to live like the 42 year old I am instead of the at times 75+ year old I seem to be, for me is worth a go!

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    • Hi Petrena

      Sorry to hear about your MS, good friend of mine is in the same boat.

      I actually dont think the majority of posters here have an issue with the medicine being available, what most have an issue with is that it will likely be very expensive. Which is silly when you could grow it for free in your own back garden.
      All the best and hope it works for you.

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    • Petrena, I’m delighted to hear that this medicine will be made available to people suffering from MS, as you say “anything that can help”, but @ €125 a bottle I feel like you’re only being taken advantage of by the profit hungry pharma companies.

      If I had MS, I wouldn’t hesitate buying a vaporizer online (as I don’t smoke) and looking for a safe & reliable source to supply me with proper cannabis, you only have to look up YouTube or Top Documentaries.com to see how MS sufferers are getting unbelievable relief from cannabis, some have even opted to bake with it (brownies, yum!!), unfortunately there’s a serious side affect from doing this though, it turns you into a criminal.

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    • Petrena , do you have an interest in gardening?

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    • I do agree that the cost is ridiculous and that would be a problem for me. It would be cheaper to grow your own and smoke a joint but though I am not judging others, I don’t think that’s for me. I have so little control of my body as it is that I imagine getting stoned would make me worse but I’m guessing here. I’m hoping that the spray form would induce less of a high feeling but provide much needed relief, again I’m guessing. But would damn like the choice to try it! I’m amazed at the dislikes that are coming on some of these comments. There for the grace of God go any of us. Cliche I know but walk a mile in my shoes and see how it feels – they need the exercise, they only usually get a few feet at a time :) Thank you Brian Henoll, Brian Rogan and ponythegringo for your openedmindness, its appreciated. Take care guys.

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  • I sincerely hope this legislation is passed. After an accident nearly two years ago, I contracted an auto immune disease, which resulted in my body, basically attacking itself. The result was, that I have severe rhumathroid arthritis in eighteen joints ( no pun intended ) and twelve ligaments. It was so severe that I needed help to do everything from getting dressed, to even getting into, or out of a chair, or a bed. Thankfully, modern advances in medicine for my condition have advanced to the point that I can now perform these functions by myself. However, the side effects of taking these medicines make me extremely nauseas and physically ill on a daily basis, along with severe trembling and other lesser effects. To cut a long story short, if this medicine can alleviate some of the side effects of my medication, then I think I should be allowed to see if they work. And by all accounts they do. One last point, to illustrate my condition, is that this comment has taken me almost three quarters of an hour to make, due to the previously mentioned side effects, and anything that might speed that process up would be most welcome, as currently I’m just too slow at typing to enter into any debate.

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  • @Ross Bowe

    Cancer—If you or someone you know has ever dealt with cancer, you know just how intense the disease and its treatments can be. Chemotherapy has a range of side effects, including nausea and vomiting, anorexia, and severe pain. THC, a key active ingredient in marijuana, has been approved by the FDA for use in relieving nausea and vomiting and increasing appetite in people with cancer. Some supporters even believe it inhibits tumor growth.
    HIV—Some studies have found that marijuana rivals mainstream drugs for alleviating HIV/AIDS symptoms. Those who use marijuana in HIV/AIDS treatment do so to help combat anxiety, depression, nausea, fatigue, and neuropathic pain. When comparing marijuana to other medications, one study found that those who used marijuana rated their anxiety significantly lower than those who did not, although some other symptoms were found to be treated better with other medications.
    Chronic pain—Chronic pain is one of the most commonly listed conditions on physician recommendations for medical marijuana. Reports show that there is a cannabinoid receptor in parts of the nervous system that detect and control pain perception. This means that marijuana is capable of giving moderate pain relief, and in some cases, it’s a better alternative than addicting pain killers.
    Multiple Sclerosis (MS)—MS is a degenerative disease of the central nervous system that causes weakness, loss of coordination, inflammation, and eventually disability. While studies are still being done to determine how effective marijuana is in treating MS, extensive anecdotal evidence from patients suggests that it can help with pain, spasticity, depression, fatigue, and incontinence.
    Glaucoma—Glaucoma causes higher pressure on the eyeballs, and this can lead to vision loss. In fact, after cataracts, glaucoma is the leading causing of blindness worldwide, with more than 60 million victims. Smoking marijuana actually reduces the pressure on your eyes, helping to alleviate glaucoma symptoms.
    Epilepsy—Research seems to indicate that marijuana can help control epileptic seizures.  30 million people worldwide suffer from this chronic seizure disorder, and they can have sudden attacks of convulsions. There are some epileptics who are unable to tolerate traditional medicine, but they’ve been able to use pot to control their seizure activity.
    Arthritis—When it comes to arthritis, there are 2 common types—rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. Both of these cause pain and swelling in the joints. It’s believed that marijuana can help treat the pain associated with arthritis. It also seems to have anti-inflammatory properties, leading some to believe that it could play a bigger role in treating arthritis, not just its symptoms.
    There are many more conditions supporters claim can be treated effectively with marijuana, including migraines, asthma, Alzheimer’s, psychological disorders, Tourette’s, and Parkinson’s.

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  • Very Simple Keep outa the drug dealers & Kids hands and let people that need it have it. REGULATE NOW

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  • I think we all need to be grown ups on this situation. I for one think Weed/Hash should be legal, with restrictions of course.

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  • Would love it legalised, tourists in for the weekends, people calmer and danone bring out a new range of yogurts. Coffee shops become hubs of social activity and peoples physical pain alleviated. Dont let the people be overcharged for a product of nature

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  • You might consider having a poll on whether or not Cannabis should be legalized, interested.

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  • Lol everyone will be going to the docs more often, make it legal for god sake, funny the people who criticize weed but think its acceptable for people to drink themselves silly at the weekend ect, pfffft

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  • Get over it, smoked loads of it years ago, very responsible member of society now…if it helps people in pain what the f.ck is the problem. PS I’m not a heroin addict

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  • My wonderful sister Ann died from cancer nearly 9 months ago.She was 47 and had been told 2 years previously it was terminal.The Pain my sis went through is beyond words.Any relief from her constant pain would have been welcomed.I am all for the use of cannabis etc in certain circumstances.I know my beautiful sister would concur…

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    • So sorry Derek to hear of your loss. You may have seen from previous comments that I have very bad health too and I would try anything to get some relief, and it would bring relief to my loved ones as well. I know it is very hard for them looking at me! The people disliking our comments don’t know what it’s really like and I hope they never do but feel they shouldn’t judge others. Take care.

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    • The people disliking your comments are either idiots or are suffering from chunky thumb smart phone syndrome, either way I wouldn’t pay any notice. My own father is suffereing from pretty severe Parkinsons and it really pisses me off to think that there’s a natural plant available that could be beneficial to him, yet it’s illegal. Plenty of chemical based costly medicines available though.

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    • Well said Brian, you’ve described them perfectly! Hope your Dad finds some relief.

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    • Thanks Petrena

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  • Portugal have decriminalized it and they have had very little uptake in people smoking it than normal with no social issues what so ever but most importantly their crime rate has dropped significantly.

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  • JayK 11/09/12 #

    Sativex costs £125 for a bottle that will last 7-11 days. Cannabis itself could be grown at minimal cost and provide the same benefits. The cynic in me would call this legislation a setback, not progress.

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  • I remember listening to an interview with Terry Thomas the British Actor just before he died of Parkinson’s in which he said that only thing that relieved his pain was cannabis.

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  • It’s about time to be quite honest.
    I mean who has heard of cannabis related deaths.
    Alcohol causes so many diseases and kills people. Tobacco causes cancer and also kills people, yet cannabis has knock on effects which relax you, puts people in happy moods etc, people are less stressed and their isn’t one cannabis related death I can find.

    Now if alcohol and tobacco kills thousands a year ;why are they legal?
    Cannabis is a known cure for many diseases etc; so why is it illegal in the first place???

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    • I think temple bar after dark would be a very different place if it was alcohol that was illegal, and only cannabis being served!

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    • Cannabis doesn’t cure anything but it does help with pain and inflammatory disorders.

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    • Zoltar 11/09/12 #

      Ross.. Here’s some photographic evidence of cannabis medicine extracting and killing cancer from this mans skull.

      http://cannabisscience.com/download/patientthree_july302012_update8.pdf

      There’s evidence from other patients treatment on the site if you care to look.

      and a further 850 published papers it’s a pretty in-depth resource…
      http://beyondchronic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Grannys-List-July-2012.pdf

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    • Does have some bad effects such as I personally know two heavy users that had to be committed.

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    • most people I know use fags for rolling joints,a joint has more chemicals than a fags so you’ve more of a chance of geting cancer

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    • Sorry Zoltar but I’ll repeat part of my statement – cannabis doesn’t cure anything. It may well be shown to reduce tumour size and relieve pain but this does not mean cure. I’m not coming out against it by the way. I’m just clarifying that it hasn’t actually cured anything.

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    • @Felix
      “Does have some bad effects such as I personally know two heavy users”
      If people abuse drug’s it will lead to problems,the same for heavy use of alcohol,painkillers etc.
      From a non smoker it won’t bother me one bit if Cannabis was legalised.It has great benefits for many ill people,will also reduce crime from putting gangland drug dealers out of business.
      Its a lost war against Cannabis,people can grow there own supply and can buy it almost anywhere.Can’t understand how people go over the top about a drug less harmfully then Alcohol and Cigarettes.

      In the USA alone cannabis sell’s up to around 120billion per a year fueling the Mexican cartels which is causing a near civil war in mexico.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-19543286

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    • @ John – Cannabis can also be smoked in a pure joint, a pipe or bong (water pipe), completely removing the need for the lethal & highly addictive tobacco. In fact, many people are now vaporizing weed, which causes no combustion, therefore removing all tars & carcinogens, it’s a relatively safe drug if used correctly.

      It really frustrates me to think that a plant, which when consumed makes users peaceful & mellow and hasn’t a single death attributed to it (worldwide) is illegal, whilst alcohol is freely available everywhere throughout the country, even though it’s known to make people aggressive and causes horrifc problems & many deaths. Some people need to step back, look at the big picture and re-evalute their negative attitude towards cannabis, just because it’s illegal, doesn’t mean it’s bad. I’m fairly confident that if cannabis was legalized, there would be a significant drop in the anti-social behaviour that we’re constantly seeing & reading about.

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  • This topic would make for an interesting poll. Hint hint journal :)

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  • http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/06/marijuana-fights-cancer-and-helps-manage-side-effects-researchers-find.html

    There is real evidence of THC/CBD shrinking & actually killing cancer cells,there has been much bone fide research by places such as Harvard University on the benefits in some ailments/diseases of Cannabis- this link also shows Real respected research-not the hippie website style research either!
    I don’t drink & don’t like the idea of drugs,but I haven’t got my head buried in the sand like some!
    If you suffer from MS or Arthritis the anti inflammatory medication does as much damage as it helps,at least with cannabis there are no negatives & absolutely NO Harmful smoke if a Vapouriser is used!

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  • Tobacco kills.Cannabis can heal.

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  • SO AS LONG AS YOU CAN EXTRACT HASH OIL ON AN INDUSTRIAL SCALE ON LICENCE FROM THE BRITISH HOME OFFICE IN A SECRET LOCATION TO MAKE MEGA BUCKS ITS COOL,BUT TRY THIS AT HOME YOURSELF WITH ONE HOMEGROWN PLANT AND WE WILL LOCK YOUR ASS IN GAOL,

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  • Dave 12/09/12 #

    weed is a beautiful thing it shouldn’t be legalised and moderated …

    it should be FREE

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  • mart_n 11/09/12 #

    Legalising heavily patented derivatives while failing to reconsider the laws surrounding their parent compounds is not a step forward.

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  • Zoltar 11/09/12 #

    This product IS cannabis, it’s the whole plant extracted and delivered in an alcohol tincture for umpteen times the price of what you could grow it for at home.

    “It will be tested for the use in treatment of cancer pain” this is great but in other news scientists since the seventies have found cannabis to seeks out and destroys cancer cells…

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/06/marijuana-fights-cancer-and-helps-manage-side-effects-researchers-find.html

    We must have the right to grow our own medicine!

    http://beyondchronic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Grannys-List-July-2012.pdf

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    • You do have to laugh/cry at times over this. Make an direct extract from cannabis plants, stick a label on it and you can charge £125 for it. When you can grow this in your back garden for free.

      There is a reason why it is called weed, it grows like one!

      Had they charged 15-20 euro for it I would have no problem with it. But hey there is a reason why its called big pharma.

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    • The reason as to why it is delivered in small doses is because of the damage it can do in large doses. Feel free consuming the garden growth, but you’ll have mahoosive problems in terms of addiction, and symptom management. That’s one of the reasons drugs come in a predetermined dose.

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    • @ Brian I know that,I nearly was removed from a cafe in Amsterdam because when I bought weed I skinned the joint with tobacco an lit it,u can’t smoke tobacco in cafe’s.I don’t smoke it anymore but was a daily user till 5 years ago,im 32 now,it doesn’t agree with some people’s minds,like my own.ive nothing against it,most of my close friends smoke it daily,but they all use tobacco in the joints,in fact everyone I know who smokes it uses fags,good times tho and a few greeners along the way!!

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    • @Micheal

      Damage? What damage? Please direct me to some fact based evidence on anyone dying from a cannabis overdose.
      As for the old “You have a higher chance of mental illnesses when using cannabis” there are just as many reports of it actually helping people.

      As for addiction. Psychologically maybe if you base your whole life around it (Do think it’s more a problem with not getting into the real world). Physiologically not so.

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    • Micheal 12/09/12 #

      And just because there are just as many reports helping as damaging means we shouldn’t be able control the dose? No, all that means is that for every person it will help, someone else will be hindered.
      If you apply your logic across the board, due to the fact that many drugs can be made from plants in your back garden, means we shouldn’t control any of their doses? I’m referring in particular to anti-depressants, which in the wrong hands, can do far more damage than can do good!

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  • Mick Wallace hired James O Reilly to do research on it last week ….gospel

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  • nobody has ever gone home and thrown their wife down the stairs after a few joints. alcohol, now that’s a different story.

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  • This documentary is very informative;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKJrgGqx_E

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  • The over riding issue with the debate over legalise / don’t legalise is the lack of education on the plant itself.

    There are umpteen studies on the benefits of marijuana to help treat or relieve the symptoms on many illnesses.
    One of the more common uses is to juice the place – in this form there are zero ‘stoned’ effects – this effect only happens when the plant is heated. Juicing simply makes the plant drinkable (although by all accounts it’s not the nicest taste) most people mix it with the likes of carrot and ginger to make one hell of a nutrient rich smoothie.

    Whatever about legalising marijuana as a smokable plant, which I am 100% behind, it should certainly be considered legalising it from a pure medical stand point.

    The US government actually of a patent on the plan – but as a plant had millions of DNA possibilities they are finding it hard to do anything with it.

    Watch a documentary called The Union on YouTube. Like all documentaries certain aspects should be taken with a pinch of salt but it might open the door to doing more of your own investigation.

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  • Drugs should be legalised. I’m convinced it’s the religious right who are behind the efforts to keep it illegal. See here for Portugal’s experience http://tinyurl.com/2djx9ny

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  • Great news for those who suffer with MS, AS and chronic pain.

    End of story. It’s not the same debate as legalizing it fully.

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  • smoke our way out of the recession,even the states are loosening up,its medicinal mannnnn,now who’s got the weed?is it my turn to roll?

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  • The two of them – cannabinoid containing prescription medicines and smoking marijuana – can not be compared whatsoever; why are so many people lacking common sense? Few quick points about this: there are plenty of opioid-derived medicines available for doctors to prescribe to the sick yet none of us would head out to score some heroin or opium on the street or produce it at home to use – regardless of assured purity. Secondly, smoking marijuana could hardly be considered a sensible choice (especially for the already sick) due to the undeniable health risks associated with smoking – be it plain tobacco or marijuana! Granted, there are, of course, other ways such as vaporisation but who but the most dedicated aficionado uses a vaporiser here and now, in Ireland? But it surely would be an option for the terminally ill and dying. Another point to be considered is quantifying the compounds to be at their most efficacious. Hardly possible to do this by simply “rolling one up”. Another last point to consider is that Ireland is in a pandemic state regarding drug and alcohol abuse with more and more people advocating legalisation of “soft” and hard drugs – care of physical health and pain relief is one thing but wanting to get high, stoned or just wanting to get out of it to escape ones psychological dissatisfaction (which is also an issue – psychological dissatisfaction – that has become pendemically prevalent in Irish society) is an angle I strongly disagree with.

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    • @Thomas

      “why are so many people lacking common sense? ”
      I could ask you the same question.
      You seem to be brainwashed into thinking that cannabis is in the same category as the likes of heroin. There is a world of difference.

      Very few people I know who use cannabis do so on a daily basis, and quite a few of them eat it instead of smoking (baked, honey etc). And yes a few uses a vaporizer.

      Is it an escape from reality? Yes, maybe so. But it’s a very short one, like watching a movie or sharing a bottle of wine.
      Like everything in life it can be abused, but to group it up with the likes of heroin is way of the mark and quite frankly just ignorant.

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    • Sorry Thomas, but vaporizors have actually become quite popular, partially due to the fact that so many people are now using cannabis for medicinal reasons, like in the U.S., where they’ve permitted medicinal cannabis use under state law in 16 separate states,. They’re easily obtained online – http://www.vapor-wellness.co.uk/

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  • Except for medical reasons, this is a terrible idea. This country has no idea of moderation and to introduce full legalisation of another addictive substance boggles the mind.

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    • Its not physically addictive liam.

      In fact if you read anything about it at all, which you clearly havent, you will see it even has applications in treating serious addictions like alcohol and opiates.

      If your mind boggles its because its very small.

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