Ministers first, then bankers, then Tds. 75% tax. The rest will go to pay the dail bar bill.

Doubt it will be along those lines Matt but it’s good to see that the supposedly “untouchable” (according to our Finance Minister) pensions are not as perpetual as they were made out to be by the current Government. Hope that this Bill is taken on board.

Well said Dario …

Are any FF supporters going to answer the comments from the folks here, advocating that the same Bill should support reducing ex FF/PD ministers and Taoisigh pensions along with the bankers pensions etc??? or is it a case of do what i say and not what i do?

@Eoin

Why didn’t FF – your party – do this when they were in power for all those years?

Petr, as banking system was collapsing I think it was more prudent to focus on not allowing the entire monetary stability of ordinary citizens disappear was more of a priority than the future pensions of the then exec’s.

Cal, I’d have no problem with that.

A 98% tax on an unrepresentative group would be unconstitutional.

It’s not an either/or, Eoin, as you well know…

Kerry
You’re quite correct to observe that no decision of the people has been overturned since the 1937 Constitution was adopted. This observation however has no bearing on any future proposition carried by the people that removes rights from a select group of citizens on the grounds of some perceived slight.
Read the Constitution Kerry and then tell me that such a decision would stand.

Garry — You’re some tulip.

So your claiming the SC would bin a referendum based on what? Do you have any legal advise to suggest they would be so minded to something like that? Don’t trot out the AG’s “opinion” we have already seen the results of that in the run up to the last referendum.

My suggestion is to have a referendum on this. If as you claim the SC throw’s out the result if the people agree on these citizens having to forfeit some of their pension so be it. As a tax payer I’m quite happy to pay for it (court & referendum costs) if such an thing happens.

FF were not to worried about bankers pay the night they gave a blanket guarantee to the banks which destroyed the nation people of ireland do not listen to these criminals.

I can’t see FF advocating cutting the pensions of former FF ministers or Taoisigh

Garry can you point me in the direction of a referendum passed by the people has been struck down by the Supreme Court?

@garry have you ever heard of cab?

We need legislation which brings the age at which former TDs and ministers receive their pensions in line with the national retirement age. They should get their pension at 67 like the rest of us, not when they leave.

As I said before, they are targeting ( half heartily ), the bankers, to take pressure off their own salaries and pensions, past and present.

Why didn’t FF – your party – do it when they brought the treasonous guarantee in?

Paul,

Fianna Fail introduced this system of pay, remember? Fianna Fail are still dependent on corporate donations so I’m betting you’ll water down this plan if you ever get into office. Corporate donations from the bankers to Fianna Fail.

Hope FF has got a plan for recovering the other few hundred billion too.

ff/fg/lab are traitors to the Irish people, we wont forget them or their supporters

dead right more spin from the brown paper bag gang though FG have shown themselves to made of the same moral fiber i.e none

Took the words right out my mouth. Absolutely right!

‘they’ are still at it, what happened to the ‘cap’ our great leaders put on certain payments?

Sadly not Ian…recovering if anything.

where have they been for the last 15years they make me sick. is it any wonder where we are ; when martin is the most pop leader it says a lot about us as a people

@Ian. Your not intrested in what ff have to say….. So why read the article. =-O

I didn’t read it… well spotted.. saw the head line and that’s enough…cheers for pointing that out lol

I think have suffered amnesia but I hope that electorate never does

I think they have suffered amnesia but I hope that electorate never does

Some people suggest SF, we’d be rightly fecked with them in power. Printer ink would be the least of our worries

Barry, i understand that FF/FG/Labour all used multiples of SFs ink to tell lies on supposedly ‘neutral’ election material. I understood it was in the reason of 3 million euro, but who is counting. That is a lot of ink cartridges right there.

Barry, WE WERE rightly fecked with ff, we’re being fecked right now with fg and labour……

So give a valid reason why sf shouldn’t have a go at flecking things up? At least they might feck things up in a new way…..

I’m voting SF

Frank
I believe you’re right! Lots of people treat you for the idiots you are!

really? you want to spend more money on them? there are cheaper ways…

A bill proposed by FF…. Irony anyone???

declan you said it might be just a few that brought us to our knees sounds like your not sure well let me tell you they are all corrupt evil b——- ,they have no interest in the ordinary folk in this country ,

What Fianna Fail say and do are two different things.

Seriously , “once again FF show Govt how it should be done” ….you should get that printed on a tshirt ….have you any understanding of how or why we are so banjaxed and role played by Ff in govt????

dave FF answer to this whole mess is deny it it never happened and im not sticking up for the current corrupt shower either .

Know what,I actually expected an answer like that.
I for one am “getting over it” and getting over the state this country is in.
Every person in this country is paying through the nose from a mix of mismanagement from the last government and the incompetence of this one.
So why don’t you “get over it !!! ” .

Oh shut up… Your party hasn’t the balls to tackle bankers pay whilst in Government. Best thing your party could do is disband.

* hadn’t

To Navan Fianna Fail,

Shilling your populist agenda won’t help. Don’t try and play the good guy with us. You are the most inept, one-sided party. Speaking as a former FF voter. I will never vote FF again.

navan ff, i am in navan, i will be coming to visit you soon

They haven’t pledged to abolish it. The parties on the left will.