Priceless

It’s gonna be massive, Elton singing “back in the ussr” while Putin can only look on during his “110 years at the top” celebrations.

Must have missed the “Right to parade” in the UN charter of human rights!

Article 20 mate..
Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

Nice con

Where are all these faceless red thumbs coming from? If you’ve got an opinion at least have the guts to stand up and say something. Cowards!

Keyword was peaceful, as in peaceful assembly…… Courts obviously upheld the ruling based on their belief that a gay pride parade would disturb the peace….

That’s ripe for some protest photo-shopping

Yes it is

No it’s not. But propaganda of homosexuality is.

Basically “you can ride whoever you like as long as you don’t talk about it”.

Bad news for Russell brand then

I feel sorry for Russia

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Thanks bayertz. Always one.

I don’t know, I feel alright.

Whenever I go there (every year) it’s nowhere near as scary as western media make it out to be. But then again I’m not a gay person trying to organise a parade or a woman disrespecting other people’s faith when singing in a cathedral.

And fish nets

And a copy of fifty shades of Nuts. Really, who put these people in a position to dictate to normal folk.

Oh that’d be the normal folk wot dun it

Backlash from the LGBT community-I’m sure the Russian police will be quaking in their boots.

Russia are inviting backlash so they can demonstrate, an Iron Fist

Perception and power and all that

It’s a democracy ??? Since when ? I would not consider Russia a democracy at all !

Russia is NOT democratic!

I think Censored was being sarcastic.

Joey, I’d love to go there too but I just cannot afford it.

“Happy Wednesday Everyone!”

pretty good idea Andrew:)))

If you think the Mayor of Moscow is bigotted, just look to the North at their handling or banning of contentious parades.

@Keith Banks: Russia isn’t a Fascist regime, it’s technically a Federal Republic, claims to be democratic, but not quite… but then Ireland isn’t all that democratic either in the end. But anyhow, you could claim autocratic, but not Fascists, in fact Russia has been historically in opposition with Fascism, the other end of the political compass even….

Also, the don’t want to pretend you don’t exist, they have no problem with who you are, just what you are… which is pedantic but there is a difference… als… its gay Russian people, not Russian gay people. Again, pedantic but poignant.

You want someone to grant you rights? your born with the only right that matters. the right to be born, and to die. What happens in between is up to you. you want rights, you already have them my friend.

@Paddy: that is the worst legal, philosophical, moral and ethical reasoning I’ve ever heard…. There’s no logic to it?

Did anyone else read Paddy’s comment in a Steven Seagal voice?

fair stab at a dry, cool matter-of-fact (smartarse) response Jack but a government doesnt have to call itself fascist to carry out fascist ideals.

“its gay Russian people, not Russian gay people” ye lost yourself there mate. pedantic, moi? pedantic on a level that doesnt make basic sense.

arguably Russias greatest known export was a gay ballet dancer. they will continue to peddle his legacy through tourism. there is nothing wrong with this picture. oh, they just imprisoned three women today from a punk rock group too who spoke out against government. nothing wrong at all.

i was actually going for more of a Chuck Norris!

@Keith: Smartarse is how comments that a reasoned and logical sound to the… not so. And yes, a government doesn’t have to call its Fascist to be so, but they do have have Fascist ideals…. which they do not. Have a look at the history of the state and the current political system, you’ll be hard pressed to find any evidence of your claims.

And yeah, it was pedantic… I even said so if you read. And it is very important both linguistically and politically. You don’t advocate for rights in that way, you don’t start prima facia with a this is what we are argument, not let us be part of your country… implied in russian – gay person….. you say, we are russian people first, we just happen to be gay…. as implied with gay – russian people…. it makes all the difference in the world…. and I really have to caveat you’re methods because it will only do more damage than good!

Oh and Russia’s greatest export… vodka!

Hey Paddy, don’t drag me into this I ain’t a very patient man!

Chuck Norris!!! Whats happening brother? i think you should get involved, i would love to see Chuck showing support to the gay community by kicking Russian ass dressed in drag!

Technically a Federal Republic, but really … Fascist.

vodka originates from poland :’o(

“kill us if they thought they’d get away with it” bit bleedin dramatic there I’d say.

I think you mean KGB general. The Stasi were East German.

Your right he was a lieutenant colonel in the KGB when he worked closely with the Stasi back in the day.

Ah the good old times.

It makes me so angry! The likes of Kim Kardashian can marry for a few days and then divorce but gay marriage is only legal in a handful of places. The fact that they can’t even celebrate who they are is a disgrace.

The Down votes are people who do not agree with all this liberalism….!!!

Innocent straightforward, non-defamatory, non-insulting comments from those who do not agree with all that’s being said here are being deleted by moderators to present only one side of this debate…Leaving open only the Down vote option to those who disagree with a comment…!!!.

It seems the Journal now wants to only present the Pro-Gay comments on here…!!!!

Becoming as totalitarian as the Russians..!!!

Peedoff, comments like yours never get deleted do they? Whenever there’s a debate on here about gay marriage and vile people try to put the likes of myself in a box they never get deleted!

But seriously of you believe you are being victimised by the journal perhaps you should just stop coming on here! Better yet, move to Russia!

Aint that the truth peedoff. If you comment doest agree with the majority it tends to get deleted with out explanation.

Tony have you ever tried being in the box? It’s quite nice.

No mark, was in the closet long enough though an it does nothin for ones health!

Wasnt having a pop at you but I just couldnt resist. In my other comment I wasnt just talking about this story but the comment section in general.

I would love for you to take a screen shot of these “deleted” comments of yours.

What are all these “Innocent straightforward, non-defamatory, non-insulting comments” which get deleted? I’ve seen comments get deleted and the bar is set incredibly low by thejournal.ie, who I believe only censor the very worst, most disgusting and damaging comments. Comments which aren’t that bad but still pretty nasty always remain and personally, I prefer it that way. Much better to let others refute them using reason and commonsense – a task which is usually like shooting fish in a barrel.

One of the most interesting things is that some commenters make the most disgusting, unfounded and intolerant statements and then cry “intolerance” when they receive the condemnation of everybody else.

Not true. I simply put forward a question on an article a few weeks ago asking did people what they thought about a woman that reported her husband to the police for fraud because she really believed it was wrong or was it because he was with another woman and did she care that they’re children had to live with the shame of their father being in jail. It was as simple as that and got deleted two or three times without even telling me why. If they had of said it liable or something to that tune I would’ve accepted it but nothing.

Nope, the journal is too quick on the censorship trigger. That is a fact.

Take a look at the report this comment function: “you don’t like this comment, or you disagree with this commenter is the one of the reasons for reporting. The comments should be left up. People can make up their own minds.

How does it encourage bigotry?

@Kevin: A Bigot is person obstinately devoted to their own opinions. They’re prejudice groups that they don’t understand and don’t want to understand. So these people aren’t going to be moved from their views by shows of unity, nor solidarity, nor any form of campaigning aimed at priding what they don’t understand.

If I tell you, don’t think of a pink elephant, don’t think about it, do not think about a pink elephant dancing around the room…. you’re mind is going to go their. These people have the same problem, the more you force views on them the more they repel, so visual symbols of pride…. that they don’t understand just gives them something to prejudice on…. not the reasoning but the actions.

By focusing on rationalisation, understanding slow acceptance it becomes a lot more effective than psychological flooding. So while pride might be good for internal aspects of the gay community to have that liberalisation, it can play a negative impact on the externalisation of perceptions. Well… that’s my view, no doubt other people will be obstinately devoted to notion of gay pride and unwilling to see rationalised argument s that may contradict this… wait, that sounds familiar… (:- /)

Cyril I gave you the benefit of the doubt on the Pussy Riot comments considering the co-option of the Russian Orthodox Church but this one is just a non-sequitur. The only link between your comment and the story is the word Russia

Kevin what about the totalitarian repression of homosexuals is that not worthy of bringing up religious fanaticism particularly when the same fanatics try to cite former Soviet Union as the consequence of Atheism?

Cyril you are a fanatic!

Well I suppose my problem with the comment is that when you point to religion as the sole source of illiberalism in the world you limit how you actually combat repression.

Disingenuous comments and comparisons are common on both sides in religious debates. For example I once saw a picture of Hitler side by side with a picture of Steve Jobs with the word Catholic below the former and Atheist below the latter. But I didn’t bring it up on the story about Steve Jobs’ stolen iPad because not only would it be a tenuous link but it would indicate I have some kind of unhealthy obsession with religion

Kevin I never said it was the only source of repression in the world but it is the only source that is actively promoted as doing good. Other sources may be racism extreme nationalism xenophobia etc. Society calls out these for the ills they are but yet for some reason we make accusations of extremism when rationalists call out the inherent irrationality and destructive nature of religion. Case in point above.

(c) Jimmy Carr, 2009

I thought Putin *was* Mr Gay Russia?

This is why comments should not be censored. How else can we identify the bigots?

bored, bored pitiful man

is there an echo in here?

Continent Simian

We heard you the first time.

My mistake. I has asked for the original to be deleted.

Cindy go live in Russia.

This comment is a fail! These people are fighting for EQUALITY and nothing else! They want to be treated the same way everyone else is, that’s all! Also, Ireland should act against the Religiophobes? The country that was run for years by a vile organisation that tried to maintain a grip on society, and claimed to preach love and forgiveness, while there members raped and inflicted cruelty on thousands of people? I’m not anti-god, but I am against any organisation that interferes in my life and the lives of people that I love and care about!

I see you’re from the bible belt cindy. Can we take it from your use of the terms ‘gay brigade / religiophobes’ that you’re expecting some brownie points from jeebus for your post??

Cindy, I think you’ll find that “the gay brigade” is looking for *equality*, a concept which religious wing nuts like yourself find so hard to understand. I hate that people like you hide behind religion as an excuse for your hatred, bigotry, stupidity and lack of empathy with the human race. Your god hates me for being a gay but you know what, mine loves me because its irrelevant and he probably tolerates you too. Personally, I think you’re an arsehole and I wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

Matthew, Matthew, Matthew, calm down. Yo u have just shown that those of you who cry for tolerance and respect have none to give in return. In fact your post above typifies the cry baby, tantrum throwing immaturity of one who values nothing outside his own little sphere of existence. Have a little lie down , go on, you’ll feel much better afterwards.

Apologies Matthew, that comment was directed to Jim. I had just read your post before I decided to answer Jim?s rant Apologies again.

@Cindy: You rant about gaybrigade and religiophobes in an ?rish forum. Are you ignorant of our recent history? You deny a man to be angry at your statements, which reek of intolerance and injustice and then you stereotype his anger as a gay tantrum. ? wonder if you think the Jews have sterotypical tantrums when they express their anger at antisemetic acts. What about black people? Do they get too hot and bothered at your kind of bigotry? Should we all have a little nap while people like you trample human rights? Shame on you to pose as a believer in God, yet to advocate hatred. The only object of worship that takes pleasure in your hatred is Satan.