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Oireachtas committee to discuss State’s liability over Quinn Insurance losses

The Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform will discuss the possible €1.65bn liability to other insurers.

Other insurers - and policy holders - may have to cover losses of up to €1.65 billion at Quinn Insurance.
Other insurers - and policy holders - may have to cover losses of up to €1.65 billion at Quinn Insurance.
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AN OIREACHTAS COMMITTEE will this afternoon discuss the impact of the losses at Quinn Insurance – which could result in a levy being added to most Irish insurance policies for several decades.

The High Court was told in August that the liabilities could exceed €1.6 billion – an amount which doubled the formal forecast of €738 million made in 2011.

The losses at the insurer, combined with rules on the minimum cash on hand that insurers are required to keep on hand in order to deal with potential claims, means the insurer has to be bailed out by the State’s Insurance Compensation Fund.

That fund, in turn, is funded by an extra levy added to non-life assurance policies – meaning the ordinary policy holder is forced to contribute towards Quinn Insurance’s losses.

The administrators said earlier this summer that their estimate for the potential losses at the insurer had to be raised because of a “culture of suppressing estimates” which had been uncovered at the insurer.

Thy added that the company’s inability to offer the necessary financial guarantees meant it could not adopt a currency hedging strategy, meaning any major moves in the value of euro or sterling could leave it further exposed.

Seán Quinn himself as previously described the costs of administration at the insurer as “truly shocking”.

Representatives from the Central Bank, the Department of Finance, and Grant Thornton will be present at the meeting to brief members at the meeting, which is set for 2pm.

Read: Cost of Quinn Insurance administration may exceed €1.6bn

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Comments (14 Comments)

  • Well thanks Sean Quinn – your greed means that my premiums will be costing more for ‘several decades’…

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  • Every day it seems things get worse. What kind of place allows businesses to be run like this? It’s a complete lawless land that allows big businessmen to gamble away everything, and if it all goes pear shaped, the humble ordinary people are left to pick up the tab, while said businessmen are still swanning around like they own the place. One day the ordinary people will down tools and decide to fight back. I’d imagine that day is looming in the not to distant future.

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  • Next time his supporters march they should take time to look at the insurance disc on there windscreen,if they can see that far.

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  • Darren 10/10/12 #

    Again the people of this country pick up the tab for the bad debts of private company’s and rich investors!

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    • Which is classic fascism… the privatisation of profit and socialisation of loss. I don’t ever remember being asked if I wanted to contribute to propping this company up. Let it fail. Let it fail the way loads of other businesses fail every week. It doesn’t deserve a cent of taxpayers’ money.

      What is worse is that we have an arrogant government who believe that just because a majority of people ticked their respective boxes during the election, they have a carte blanche to do as they please. I’m sure if this was put to a poll, the answer would be a resounding no to a request for (yet another) insurance levy to prop up (yet another) failing insurance company.

      By the way, whatever happened to the last levy imposed on insurance policies during the 1980’s That was never rescinded. Can that levy not be re-purposed to administering Quinn Direct?

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  • Emmet 10/10/12 #

    More cost to the taxpayer, geez between insurance levies, USC, property tax,water changers,bailing out the banks (have I missed anything) taxpayer is not getting a good deal…

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  • When they lose, we pay. Can’t remember them spreading the love to the tax payer in the times when Insurance Companies and Banks in this country seemed invincible – nice cushy bonuses for themselves and the likes.

    Hope all of his supporters are happy paying these additional taxes to cover his wreckless gambling, others won’t be.

    The whole situation is sickening…

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  • It never ceases to amaze me the way the Irish taxpayer ends up footing the bill every time a bank or insurance company make a mess of it’s finances. Remember AIB’s adventures in insurance? Believe we are still paying for that as well. How can there be good corporate governance when those in charge know they will be bailed out by the Irish citizen no matter what they do?

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    • The irony, or sickening thing maybe, is that we had only just finished the bailouts of the PMPA and ICI from the early 80′s. Even at their peak the levies previously were only 3% and included a social taxation element, youth training levy, now we are up to 5% which they estimate could last another 20 plus years. And yet you still get morons who are willing to fund legal campaigns, march in protest, defend this criminal family. At the very least, without the Anglo element, and taking Quinns own initial shortfall assertion, the Irish taxpayer would have been on the hook for close to 900m Euro. Quinn himself has acknowledged this. The 1.6 billion is only arrived at when his books were assessed by Industry experts from London. How can anyone in their right mind NOT see the stupidity of trying to justify his actions. If you love him that much then pay my part of his bailouts you criminal loving fools.

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  • The GAA and Brian Darcy are typical of people who support the Quinns. If the Church and the GAA decide to change their views on the Quinns then there is some hope for Ireland Both these organisations represent the majority of people in Ireland and sadly the Quinns seem to have bought their support too. They did this with the taxpayers money. We will also be caught for the legal bills and their jail time.

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  • I don’t know much about Insurance but what would happen if they just wound it down (obviously besides all the job losses). Stop renewing new policies and it would be closed within a year? Surely that’d save some of the 1bn +?

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