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Sherlock: Some criticism of copyright law is general anti-government sentiment

In a discussion on copyright today, Junior Minister Sean Sherlock said the Attorney General was never shown a copy of an alternative proposal for copyright law in Ireland.

The panel at the #DRF2012 talk on copyright law in the Science Gallery in Dublin this afternoon
The panel at the #DRF2012 talk on copyright law in the Science Gallery in Dublin this afternoon

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL was never shown a copy of an alternative proposal for changing copyright law in Ireland, Sean Sherlock has said.

One of the two TDs who drafted the alternative guidelines has said she was disappointed that the AG had not seen the proposal for a statutory instrument, which had the support of a number of internet website owners and was significantly different to the one signed by the government earlier this year.

At a discussion on Ireland’s copyright laws in Dublin this afternoon, junior minister Sean Sherlock also said that he is willing to change the legislation on copyright depending on the outcome of consultation with the public and representative bodies.

Sherlock told the audience at the Science Gallery that he believes some of the criticism around copyright law is based on general anti-government sentiment, saying:

It’s clear that people are pissed off with us as a government.

Sherlock had originally pulled out of the Digital Rights Forum discussion saying he would not share a stage with Simon McGarr, who was involved in setting up the StopSOPAIreland petition. He agreed to attend the debate last night.

“I’m man enough when I make a bad decision to review it and reverse it if necessary,” Sherlock told the audience.

In an at times heated debate, Sherlock called for a consensus-driven debate on copyright. He encouraged internet users with opinions on the matter to fill in the online questionnaire launched last month as part of his department’s review of Irish copyright law.

Sherlock said that the questionnaire being conducted by the independent Copyright Review Committee will form the basis for how the internet is legislated for in Ireland in the future. He said that issues such as a possibly copyright council and rules around fair usage will be discussed.

“There’s a little bit of a philosophical debate as well because we have to ask ourselves what kind of internet do we want, or how we can remove any barriers to innovation,” the junior minister told the audience.

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(Simon McGarr speaking at the Digital Rights Forum discussion in Dublin’s Science Gallery today. Photo: Christine Bohan)

“This doesn’t work… and it won’t work”

Tom Murphy, co-founder of boards.ie, criticised the junior minister and the government for the recent government instrument on copyright, saying it was vague in the extreme and extremely problematic for many websites in Ireland.

Murphy said the current situation was comparable to a bank prosecuting the roads authority because its roads were used by a getaway driver after a robbery. He told the audience:

This doesn’t work, It hasn’t worked anywhere else, and it won’t work here.

He described the current situation facing many websites as ‘Schrodinger’s Law’, saying that the law around copyright on websites doesn’t seem to exist until it has been observed by a judge.

On the issue of illegal downloading, Murphy told the audience that internet service providers were unlikely to cut off customers’ internet access for online piracy.

He pointed out that Eircom had sent warning letters to 29,000 customers in an effort to curb illegal downloading. . One hundred customers had had their internet access cut off for one week, and twelve  were at the stage where they could be cut off permanently.

Solicitor Simon McGarr, who organised the petition against the government copyright legislation, said that members of the public need to be involved in the ongoing consultation and urged people to make a submission.

Paul Durrant of the ISPAI, which represents internet service providers in Ireland, said that the recent statutory instrument signed by the government needs to be clarified instead of being decided on a case by case basis at the courts.

Tone of the debate

Sean Sherlock also criticised some of the tone of the debate around copyright, telling some critics to “park the egos” and get involved in a consensus-driven debate:

I think the debate so far perhaps has been one where we’ve all had the swords drawn and maybe now we need to put the swords back into the scabbards and see how we can move on in this debate.

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Comments (27 Comments)

  • I, and many others have been opposed to these kind of laws on their ‘merits’ alone. I’ve been against censoring communications for the sake of ineffective copyright policing since before this government came to power. Similar laws around the world: SOPA, ACTA, Hadopi, have seen similar levels of public outrage regardless of the government in power.

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  • What a douche. I am indifferent to this government and know they have to make some tough decisions but being anti-SOPA has nothing to do with anti-government or this government.

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  • Out of his depth

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  • Aidan 03/04/12 #

    The cheek of this baboon.
    He is unqualified to make judgements on anything.

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  • Sean Sherlock is full of himself and jumped the gun too quickly when it came to changing our laws in this area.
    All he saw was possible glory and a making of a name for himself – instead made a right balls-up of it, and certainly got a name for himself!

    …And its not a good name!

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  • In government a whole year and a minister is justifying himself by saying opposition to his legislation is due to general anti-government sentiment. Quick work…

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  • If Sherlock was genuinely committed to innovation, he would have taken on board the petition. Instead, he opted for the cardboard cutout role of being seen to be authoritative and standing up to popular demands.

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  • Sean Sherlock is just a living facepalm.

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  • sounds like a toddler who lost his dummie

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  • Yet another muppet minister….. Sherlock, Shatter and Hogan the three stooges….

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  • He is an embarrassment to the Intelligence of the Irish People He is an embarrassment to his Position and Hiw could An Taoiseach Enda Kenny stand by and allow Sean Sherlock out if his playpen He may have a degree but he does not know anything about the subject he is speaking about here
    Why are we surprised with any of them at making fools of themselves after all they all got their election totally on Lies and False Promises

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  • I can only assume that this anti government sentiment Sean is alluding to is linked to the criticism of other clueless, inept, out of touch, oxygen thieves like himself that will do anything no matter how poorly an idea is conceived or executed rammed down our throats because they are so full of their own self importance and need self promotion… so yes under these conditions he is correct.

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  • Let me get this right,
    He is now willing to listen to certain Irish people in regards to a law that, he personally, enacted due to massive pressure from the public and their dissatisfaction. The same pressure that he was fully aware of before it came in, that he thought would go away afterwards??
    This elected clown doesn’t have the foggiest, and now he’s rightly in the shitter if he is being asked to clarify so much of what he knows nothing about.

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  • So the only comment people has is “Sean Sherlock is an *insert name*”.

    He might be miles wide of the mark about Copyright Law, but I think he’s bang on about how vitriol, name-calling & facetiousness is completely useless to everyone except whoever’s doing the venting. It’ll never happen, especially with anonymity, but I really wish people got in the habit of playing the ball not the man.

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    • I’d like Sherlock to start doing that too.

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    • Sometimes you have to call things as you see them!

      If we didn’t – if we hadn’t of been so politically correct, hadn’t of been so touchy and feely, these these idiots in power might not have got away with so many cock-ups, u-turns and outright two faced lies to the people that elected them!

      We can’t just pussy-foot around things all the time! Cobblers to that!
      Its time to say “Enough” and state things as they are – not just dressed up in weak and soft words in case we might hurt their feelings!
      Boo-hoo! Give the man a tissue so he can have a good cry!

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    • That’s all well and good except Sean Sherlock is a large part of the problem, completely out of his depth and lacking the knowledge on the subject to fulfil his brief.

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    • I don’t think there’s any politician anywhere in Democracy that doesn’t have some crazy calling him/her every name under the sun. I have every respect for anyone who puts their own name to what they’re saying online, but anyone who hides behind an anonymous name I cant really put any value to what they say. They’re hecklers, much like the Tea Party hecklers that derailed Obama’s town hall meetings in his 1st year.

      Please, if you’ve a good point to make, make it when you’ve got the floor, and give the person opposite his due as a *person*. Leave the schoolyard name calling bullshit for when you’ve had a few too many.

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    • Couldn’t agree more. It makes it very easy to dismiss an argument if the supporters are more interested in a slagging match.

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    • The problem is that Sherlock doesn’t know what he’s talking about but has taken some pretty extreme actions already. The only ego that needs to be parked is his own.

      And I have “every respect” for those who have a command of the English language. You’re enjoying the schoolyard putdowns a little too much yourself with this holier than thou stuff.

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    • @ Colm. I used to post here under my real name but due to reasons of personal safety, I have decided to stop doing so. This has nothing to do with the Journal posters, but is due to a personal problem involving some very dangerous people. Not everybody who posts anonymously, does so for spurious reasons. I can assure you that whatever my comments, they are never any different than they would be if I was using my real name. You are correct however, regarding some commentators using anonymous names to take cheap shots, but there are many more who are genuine and who may have a multitude of reasons not to use their real name. Please, just don’t tar us all with the same brush.

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  • We’re fucked with that idiot calling the shots.

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  • Sean Sherlock is an embarrassment to the Irish people.

    Unfortunately so is boards.ie so I wish there was a better representative.

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    • That’s so mean I love boards any time you need few extras for gym discounts or information on where to buy or how to something. About posters there are a few like ubetterpayup really trolling for fun so that bits true. About SOPA I would say fill in his form. Sean Sherlock is right the is serious anti government sentiment and labour are snapping at heels of PD’s and greens dead in the water he Shouldn’t have signed what he didn’t read or understand but he seems to have grasped that the government is a monumental failure. Which beats the Bejazus out of Micheal Noonan who is signing us into a lost decade and telling blatant lies.

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