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Dublin: 11 °C Tuesday 21 May, 2013

Undocumented in Ireland will celebrate St Patrick’s Day ‘in the shadows’

The Migrant Rights Centre Ireland is using this weekend’s celebrations to highlight the plight of what it says is an estimated 30,000 undocumented people in Ireland.

Undocumented migrants make a human shamrock on Sandymount strand in Dublin as part of the Justice for the Undocumented Campaign
Undocumented migrants make a human shamrock on Sandymount strand in Dublin as part of the Justice for the Undocumented Campaign
Image: Fionn Scannell

THE MIGRANT RIGHTS Centre Ireland (MRCI) believes the St Patrick’s Day celebrations this weekend offer an opportunity to highlight the plight of an estimated 30,000 undocumented people in Ireland.

The centre said that many of those migrants are living in constant fear of being deported and is using the bank holiday weekend festivities as an opportunity to highlight their plight.

“This is a day that reminds us of being Irish, of our shared values of equality and justice that as a nation we want the world to see,” said Edel McGinley, from the MRCI.

“Just like the undocumented Irish across the globe, they too are deeply rooted within our communities, working, paying taxes and trying to make a better life for themselves and their families.

“They have made Ireland their home. But they live in the shadows under tremendous stress and fear of deportation.”

One of those who is classed as undocumented said that she felt “invisible” in the current situation in Ireland.

“I have three children to support and I work really hard to provide an education for them. Yet I am in limbo,” Elisia Fuentes, who is originally from the Philippines and came to Ireland in 2007, said.

Speaking for the Justice for the Undocumented Campaign she called on the government to provide a “fair and pragmatic solution” by introducing a regularisation scheme that would consider the “rights and responsibilities of undocumented people living here.”

Last year, Dublin City Council passed a motion supporting the introduction of an “earned regularisation scheme”, allowing people working undocumented in Ireland to gain legal status.

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Comments (55 Comments)

  • Hmmm, if I was in a country illegally I’d be keeping my head down and keeping myself to myself…not making giant shamrocks on a beach..

    Then again, the government have piles of cash to seemingly help every nationality but out own – so join the party lads!

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  • rsdowney 16/03/12 #

    Monitor, please explain why the next article on “travellers” does not have a post a comment facility?

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  • Your right Patrick and same goes for illegal Irish in Aus, NZ, USA etc.

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  • Eoin Faz 16/03/12 #

    St. Patrick is probably not the best patron saint for migrants to associate with as he was not readily accepted by the Irish people. Initially he was a slave, but later given the freedom of the country after proving his power to influence the actions of God to King Laoghaire and his Druids in March 433AD.

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  • How can they be here legally and work, pay taxes but in fear of deportation. If not allwd here tuff luck, go back get the right visa and do it properly like everyone else has too. Crocodile tears yet again and ditto on the first comment.

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  • gary 16/03/12 #

    boo hoo the poor things here illegaly and then complaining they can,t take part in the parade

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  • Don’t blame them,actually sympathetic but blame the so called system that allowed them in in the 1st place, probably more euro crap we signed up to.

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  • I find it fucking hilarious that the only honest people commenting are being called racist!! If people are illegal in our country or any country, you should be deported immediatly and never let in again. If you apply for whatever paperwork is needed to be in a country legally then you have every right that a born citizen of that country has. Simple. No racism here, just an honest, straight forward opinion that a majority of people in every country has!!

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  • What exactly are migrant rights? The right to circumvent the migrant worker process that others follow? The right to the minimum wage when they are not registered tax payers? The right to work papers just because they’re already here?

    What about the rights of an Irish citizen who’s cleaning job is lost because he/she is undercut by an illegal immigrant?

    I have nothing against the open door policy for the EU, nor do I have an issue with migrant workers following the process and obtaining work permission. They provide cultural diversity, global experience and skills that aren’t always readily available to us. In some cases, they do the work we don’t want to do for the money on offer.

    As for the ‘undocumented’ (are you not allowed to be called illegal if you’re white Christians?) Irish in America, they’re no different. Let them off if they want to play the game, but they shouldn’t expect major sympathy, as first world citizens, when the rights of American citizens aren’t extended to them. There’s a much bigger playground in the EU, where they have rights, for them to find work.

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  • “Tens of thousands of undocumented Irish citizens have over the decades settled in the United States, obtained employment and remained undocumented illegal migrants for many years. Members of the Houses of the Oireachtas from all parties, including myself, and Ministers have regularly visited Washington to persuade legislators and a succession of American Presidents to provide an amnesty for the undocumented Irish on basic humanitarian grounds. We have been successful in this and over the years various Acts of Congress have addressed their circumstances. In the catastrophic economic circumstances in which this State currently finds itself, with in excess of 50,000 of our people emigrating this year, there is every likelihood that we will in the future have to revisit this issue in the United States. To avoid charges of hypocrisy and to give credibility to any such representations we may make in the future in Washington, should we not also show the same level of consideration and humanity to our undocumented immigrants as we expect be shown to the undocumented Irish in the United States? A public discussion is required on whether provision should be made in the Bill to address the circumstances of those undocumented migrants who have been resident in this State for an extended period of time and who took up residence here a substantial period of time prior to the publication of this Bill.” Alan Shatter Fine Gael TD and Minister for Justice, October 6th, 2010.

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    • No need for any hypocrisy. Demand our illegals apply through the process and let the Irish do the same in America. Simples

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    • Rónán you’re proof positive that our education system needs radical reform.

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    • Thank you for your post. I agree completly with your sentiments, unfortunetly an article like this one really brings out the racialist tendencies of the Irish. Ironic when so many of us have been illegal immigrants down through the years. Happy St. Patricks day to all our illegal immigrants – here is one person to say welcome.

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    • My education is current, and up to date, thank you very much.

      Didn’t your namesake and pictured idol go and lead men to fight for an oppressive fascist? How’s your own history?

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    • If you knew anything about Eoin O’Duffy you’d know he was agreat Irishman who fought for our freedom, spoke out against anti-semitism, and and fervently anti-communist as am I. Fascism was the political ideology do jour in a Europe fresh out of World War I and shackles of royal imperialism. It’s easy to look back and condemn him now in 2012 but then it seemed like a good idea. I respect him as a patriot and conservative.

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  • If you are not registered it is for a reason, follow laws or f off, when Irish people are abroad they get no such “presents” and are treated like Mexican and every other illegal alien in America.

    They have no rights to be here and are breaking our laws, simple as, arrest them and deport them.

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  • Give them legal status. Nice wee present for them on this Saint Patricks Day Eve.

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  • St. Patrick’s Day is tomorrow, a day when we celebrate all that is Irish and our culture. I ask that on this day you remember the tens of thousands of undocumented immigrants who call Ireland their home and live in fear of deportation, lack access to education, health care, and justice. I also ask my American friends to think of the undocumented Irish living in America on this day. Many people forget that St. Patrick himself was an immigrant to Ireland… Irinn go Brách and have a great St. Patrick’s Day

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    • Wasn’t he dragged here as a slave initially?

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    • St. Patrick initially arrived in Ireland as a slave. In modern parlance he would be described as trafficked for forced labour. These are facts that people forget on St. Patrick’s Day. Painting everything green or looking at the world with green tinted glasses pulls down a blind for a day on the condition of millions of people like St. Patrick who are living in shadow-lands of misery fear, anxiety and in many instances squalor.

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    • I’ve forgotten nothing. I went to school in Ireland too. I’m all for protecting those dragged here under forced labour conditions. I think, for example, that those trafficked here as sex workers should be rescued and given a new life here as Irish citizens. They have a reasonable expectation of protection from retribution in the countries they originally came from, and I would grant them asylum and work rights here, along with putting them in social programs for education and monitoring their well-being post emancipation

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    • Siruao 16/03/12 #

      @Eoin – all that is Irish and our culture? You mean getting pissed out your skulls, wearing green tat up to your armpits before puking up your guts and fighting with anyone looking sideways at you…

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  • Cead Mille Failte.., but only if you have gold in your pocket, for the scavengers.
    Awful little people we are turning into.

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    • Nonsense. We welcome 1000s of people here every month. We just ask that they follow the rules rather than coming in illegally.

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    • In a time when there are few jobs and supposedly up to 60,000 here taking jobs (or dolethey) that they’re not really entitled to from natives? Doesn’t sound petty to me at those figures. Even if they’re wrong by a few tens of thousands. And i don’t have any sympathy for Irish illegally abroad either. Jumping the queue of those patiently waiting on visas. What’s more the Irish who emigrate will saunter back here and be ahead of equivalently qualified candidates in interviews for jobs for being travelled should they return in better times. Shame there’s no brownie points for staying and slogging through the hard times fixing the country rather than abandoning. I digress but I’m all out of sympathy for and economic migrants Irish or otherwise.

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    • Patrick. Do you know any undocumented Irish in the US or elsewhere? If so, inform the relevant authorities. Tell ‘em to come home immediately. We need ‘em on our dole queues…

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    • Most migrants are economic, Mr Smith.. What kind of migration do you approve of?

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  • And we hold our arms open wide in welcome to the thousands of undocumented emigrants in the US and elsewhere swelling the ranks of the unemployed here. ..

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  • If you are in any country illegally, then you should be arrested and deported if you are discovered, regardless of what nationality you are, and also, regardless of how long you have managed to remain undetected.
    Due, in part, to Ireland allowing hundreds of thousands of economic migrants into this country from Eastern Europe regardless of what skills they had or what benefit they would be to the country, or how it would affect the ability of Irish people to find work here, thousands upon thousands of Irish people are now forced to emigrate.
    The undocumented Irish worldwide, could jeopardise the chances of them attaining visas so, in no way whatsoever should undocumented Irish people be given any special treatment.
    To say there is no link between the high levels of emigration of Irish people now and the high levels of immigration over the last few years is be truly ignorant.

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  • This time every year Washington gets the same request from the undocumented Irish. Two major obstacles will always now stand in their way. 9/11 stepped up already tight emigration laws but Mexico would go mental if the Irish were given any sort of amnesty. I’ve got a lot of friends in the US legal and illegal and as much as I would love to see it, it simply ain’t going to happen.

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  • toorkeel 16/03/12 #

    Just because they are undocumented doesn’t mean they can’t wear a green jumper. Silly headline.

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  • “Welcome Irish Racists”

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  • Great to hear some people are keen to stay here. There’s hope for our empire after all.

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