More unemployment….

I say the two guys arrested were collecting the dole.

Mmmmmm maybe just don’t it?

Ya, but i want to :p nothing better than having a waft and watching terrible movies.

Still can’t understand why the people have not been allowed to vote on this issue. ?

Because they don’t want an entire nation of people with open minds, people who question things.

You need drugs to have an open mind and question things?

No, but it helps.

I call bullshit! I smoke, but lets not kid ourselves about it changing anything about our open mindedness. The only things its ever changed for me was heighten my ability to sit through a full episode of the late late show.

Then clearly you’ve been doing it wrong.

I know, I should get Sky.

;)

I learnt how to waltz yesterday. I haven’t tried yet though, its intimidating.

They did one last November Stephen – http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-should-ireland-move-to-legalise-marijuana-664591-Nov2012/

Do you think Ireland should move to legalise marijuana?

62% voted Yes, for both medicinal & recreational use
21% voted Yes, for medicinal use only
10% – Voted No
4% – Did not know

I’d imagine that the 10% of No voters was mainly made up from two different types of people, the drug dealers who are profiting nicely from the sale of cannabis and those who belive that cannabis is a harmful drug and think that prohibition is somehow going to make it magically disappear.

It’s actually about 2-3 oz per plant dried and cured. At 300 euro an oz that’s about 700-800 a plant. The estimates that are thrown around are woefully wrong. The fact that they weigh the plants fresh out of the soil says it all. Only the dried, cured buds are worth anything.

“If a law is unjust , a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obliged to do so” – Thomas Jefferson.

Great quote.

… or two young lads sick of their lot, depression and this country, who were growing some plants to leave their shitty life behind?

Well that’s just great, lets all start growing cannabis plants!!! Problem solved, the country is saved……

John old mucker , it’s not just criminal gangs growing marijuana,when I lost my job I was on verge of losing my home,so I grew a few plants to pay the mortgage and pay the bills, I don’t claim anything of the state, and where I live in rural Ireland there isn’t one job..

I appreciate what you are saying but I will have absolutely no sympathy to what you are doing…. Your after openly admitting you are a drug dealer & that’s reality!!!!

Yes you say it’s only cannabis.. Bla bla,,, but the people you are poisoning with this illegal drug are sure to experiment with harder drugs!!

Once the person can say to themselves I’ve takin cannabis before & it was grand sure ill try somethin else…. Be fine.

It actually disgusts me that you have the bear faced cheek to openly say you sell cannabis……

Ah the gateway argument from the dinosaur

Say what you like about me, i really don’t care. It’s very sad when you can’t stay on the topic & feel the need to resort to insults.

Anyway, I’ve said what I have to say on the matter. Good day to you sir …

You have a small mind John, nobody in A&E at the weekend from smoking a few spliff’s, more and more country’s across the globe are starting to legalise & regulate, and as for that old chestnut of a spliff leading to stabbing yourself with needles, has proven to be nonsense !!

John, you’re clearly entirely clueless about this subject.

If people were legally allowed to grow their own or purcahse it from a licensed vendor, then yes a huge problem would be solved, the criminal gangs would be quickly shut out of the business, the market place would be regulated making it much safer for adults to consume and underage use could be reduced by implementing age restrictions similar to what we have for alcohol. It would also free up our already over stretched gardai, so that they could concentrate on more serious crimes, not to mention the other economic benefits that could be acheived by legalising it.

I can brew my own beer why can’t I grow my own weed without running the risk of being criminalised?

John, you said above – “Yes you say it’s only cannabis.. Bla bla,,, but the people you are poisoning with this illegal drug are sure to experiment with harder drugs!!”

Firstly, cannabis unlike most other drugs (including alcohol) isn’t a poison, there’s been zero deaths attributed to its use over its 5000 year history and you cannot die from a cannabis overdose. And to say that people will surely go on to use harder drugs after smoking cannabis is just ridiculous; as there’s nothing in cannabis that makes the user want to try harder drugs. If anything it’s the fact that cannabis is illegal and is often supplied by the same people who also sell harder drugs is the real problem – Another reason why cannabis legalisation makes sense!!

@john It sickens me that you unashamedly have a closed mind and waffle on here.

U need to learn about drugs John, they are not all the same and cannot be put under same umbrella.

Also 800 plants = 640k,, wtf, est are always way to high( pardon the pun)

Gorilla – Cannabis is a dangerous drug which causes psychosis and paranoia. Some of the people who have smoked your drugs are probably in psychiatric wards. Can’t someone track you down threw Facebook or Twitter? I don’t want to make you paranoid. I’m not gonna tell the Gardai.

If your against regulation of cannabis you have to stand against alcohol legalization also otherwise you’re an absolute hypocrite. Some poor people may be in a psychiatric ward but this is the result of a crap life/past which they’ll try and supplement with all types of substances or actions that can be harmful in excess.

consider the crap that is legal before running your mouth with parroted nonsense…

“Alcohol has been identified as a contributory factor in 97% of public order offenses as recorded under the Garda PULSE system”
“Almost half of the perpetrators of homicide were intoxicated when the crime was committed”
“Every seven hours, someone in Ireland dies from an alcohol-related illness”
“There are almost twice as many deaths due to alcohol as due to all other drugs combined”
http://alcoholireland.ie/alcohol-facts/alcohol-related-harm-facts-and-statistics/
Cannabis comes in last place in personal and social harm out of 19 drugs legal and illicit substances of a survey of 300 hundred clinical experts in Scotland. Alcohol comes in 4th most harmful and Tobacco 7th.
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/4/e000774.full

Cannabis has never been recorded as a cause of death in 10,000 years of human use, every time you champion prohibition of this plant your directing young people towards the more harmful legal alternatives.

Wow Zoltar. You’re really anti alcohol. Comparing cannabis to alcohol is like comparing chalk to cheese. Like comparing lung cancer to liver cirrhosis. Like comparing schizophrenia to alcoholism.

John u haven’t a decking clue..moron

On the contrary I like to get pissed occasionally but have to admit cut down alot recently but that is my choice either way. I have to disagree that you can’t compare alcohol to cannabis, they’re both mind altering substances it’s just the effects and social consequences are vastly different for example…

Alcohol has a 35% dependancy rate, cannabis 9%
Alcohol is a upper/downer while cannabis is an antidepressant
Alcohol is toxic, Cannabis is anti-toxic
Alcohol kills millions a year, cannabis no recorded deaths
health and police costs due to alcohol are MASSIVE! compare this to the patients able to get off many addictive liver toxic pharmaceuticals and use cannabis to heal holistically or control illness safely.
hangover, no hangover etc etc etc.

The vast majority of the issues with cannabis come from it’s illicit status, solved through regulation.

You make some good points. I’m tired of debating against cannabis. But.. Cannabis is not an anti depressant. That’s bullshit. People feel crap after taking it. Escitalopram is an antidepressant not cannabis.

I’m sick of debating too but in the state with these laws more than half of my friends and I are considered criminal I have no choice but to debate, me personally being able to consume cannabis would not affect your life whatsoever and in a societal context would probably improve things if you study other countries logical approaches to this problem as a benchmark.

I’ve taken cannabis for regularly for 13 years I don’t feel like crap, I’m not a schizophrenic and have good relationships likewise with 15+ of my friends.

The rate of cannabis use has dramatically increased since its prohibition and schizophrenia and other mental disorders have not risen concurrently, keep an open mind, not all drugs are the same and should be treated as such. good night

Actually, the only reason any criminals make money from cannabis is because some men were arrogant enough to believe that they could outlaw a plant.

A plant with over a thousand positive uses (outside of recreational), which could be of exceptional benefit to our little islands economy, but for some reason our elected “leaders” would rather cling to the propaganda that they were fed, in the face of all the facts and evidence and hand that revenue over to criminals.

They outlawed opium didnt they or is that being arrogant as well?

Poppy still legal I think…

Yes James – opium may be illegal but poppies aren’t.
Plus – can you make biofuels, biodegradable plastics, fabric, paper, concrete, etc from poppies?

Troll

Have you never heard of opiate based pharnaceuticals?

Shanti, not arrogance, money pure and simple, not sure of the dates I think 50′s in the states, paper, drugand a few other industries got together (paid off) I mean lobbied congress, it also helped that those who gained most were members. Either way big propaganda campaign against pot and Mexicans was ran. It’s illegal so big business can make money. If they really wanted to stop drugs trade they could by hanging the bankers making the real money.