Don’t call him Len ya little b*llix!!!

Don’t call me Len, I’m a bishop!

How’s the son?

Here’s some information on the men themselves, for those interested in these things: http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/vatican-newsflash-pope-names-six-new-cardinals-including-harvey

Quote:
“Tagle, 55, and Onayiekan, 68, both could draw consideration as possible successors to Benedict XVI if the mood at the time of the next conclave is to look for leadership to the booming church in the global south.
Tagle has turned heads during the current Synod of Bishops on new evangelization for his emphasis on a humbler, simpler church with a greater capacity for silence while Onayiekan has won praise for his balanced view on Islam — insisting that despite the violence of the “Boko Haram” movement, “Christians in Nigeria do not see themselves as being under any massive persecution by Muslims.” “

what I dont get is why are so many cardinals really old, the same with the Pope. Why do they consistently have such elderly men in power??

‘Tagle has turned heads…’

Maybe it was just his new dress. They do like their haute-couture.

Do you actually read your posts before you post them? This is beyond ridiculous.

Wouldn’t it be great if they put all that effort in to achieving something meaningful and productive that would make a difference to peoples quality of life in Nigeria. Religions at best tolerate each other, look at Ireland, even different factions of Christianity look down on each other….its such a abomination as a concept. A means to keep the fools controlled and happy.

A recent report showed that people more educated and professionally successful were more likely not to claim association with any faith…….what would that suggest?

Every Man/Woman should be free to choose, your belifes are a private sacred thing

Couldn’t agree more. its a shame that those who do believe in a god feel it is acceptable to try and bring their belief system into public policy and civic and school issues where it has absolutely no place. Keep your beliefs private or at least when you share them expect not to be treated like anything more or less than your neighbour

Ha! Sorry John, had to be fixed…

He certainly does have to be fixed if he’s in heath!!!!

Aw! you changed the h/line! :-( Was going to comment about blasted heaths, etc.

Would it not be better for the world if there was no pope and no silly relivion

Would it not be better for the world if there was no pope and no silly religion. Only causes war, oppression and abuse.

Religion is man made not god made

Open your mind. Might do you some good.

Ah here, will ya leave it out…

Its very open. You might take your own advice and see the world for the wonder it is and not be controlled by those who want power and pervert religion to their own ends.

Wouldn’t it be fantastic for the country tho…

Eye. It wasn’t Catholics that caused the war on our own doorstep.

“That would be an ecumenical matter.”

bang bang. Catholics, protestants all part of Christianity so yeah it has caused wars on our own doorstep. silly when you think about it my santa is better than your santa. religion stems from superstition, fear of death looking for someway of explaining it that we dont all thing what a wonderful life it cant possibly end and in fairness no science so minds run wild explaining it so you get religion :) then you get people who are hungry for power so they warp it to their own ends, i.e henry the 8th who could not divorce so to hell with that lets start our own branch or christian religion. I understand that death is one of the most scary thoughts so human nature not to accept it for what it is

look at how the taliban warped Islam for their own ends lol and in fairness both religions say the other is wrong. which to me seems childish, your wrong, no your wrong, no your wrong and so on so on. We are at the end of the day the sum of our parts an amazing collection of DNA and evolved to become aware of ourselves. but just thing if there was something and forever life would you not get annoyed at spending the next 20,000,000,000,000,000,00 years sitting on a cloud listening to the same old angels singing. Here you want a change after a few years let alone forever :) here on earth whats the point of 80 odd years when you get trillions on another paradise, come on lol.

also now when you consider what we learn of the universe how vast and amazing it is and how it started. its humbling.

anyway i could go on and on but rant over :)

So what happened in North Ireland had nothing to do with some people wanting to be in the UK and others not,
and nothing to do with Nationalists and Unionists?

Secondly, Stewie, what do you have against Capital Letters?

whats happened in the north stems again from religious belief and how people should live or did you ever hear of the plantations ?? go look up a history book. power hungry Britain at the time using there own religion spreading their own versions of belief taking catholic land because Catholics were inferior. oh sorry did i just prove another religious point. oh silly me. If Ireland was protestant and conformed to what was British society at the time things would be different but two different beliefs head to head its the same the world over. at for capital letter small argument to make. seeing as most of us use smart phones and if you have issue with syntax its a small argument off topic that you might want to bring up with apple to make it more easy to type on Iphone. whoops that should be iphone ;)

I do know my history. The problems between Ireland and England started well before the Reformation.
If Gerry Adams became an Anglican, it does not follow that he’d become a Unionist.
Religion is just one of many excuses. Before the Reformation when all of Europe was Catholic, it was hardly a war-free zone now, was it?

Oh yes, smart phones…I was afriad you were making some crazy political point using small letters…moby doesn’t use capitals for some such reason… ;)

Ahhhhhh wouldn’t it be fantastic…

I remember a South Park episode where everybody was atheist but they still went to war over slight differences in atheism
Human nature I guess

I think stewies point is that different religions makes different cultures and we as humans target what’s different.

As for that south park episode excellent point. My flying spegetti monster is the only true god. Prove that there is no flying spegetti monster :)

Religion sparks mist conflicts and where its a war forresourses its nnormally religions differences have split people into competing groups.

We need to educate our young not in catholic or religious schools ( see how well religion went there) education is about facts not myths. Kids should be told around the same age they question the easter bunny or Santa that religion is just the same thing.

I think kenny is going to get the offer soon….

Eye see all
“Hail meatsauce, full of beef. The Spaghetti Monster is with you…”
~ Ragu on Pastafarianism

Fr. Jack

5 a side all cardinals over 80 indoor tournament you mean?

I’m sure all those employees of the Roman Catholic Church who have reached the heady heights of bishophood achieved the position due to their extreme holiness and undying selfless love of humanity . I’m sure none of them are egotistical , conceited, self promoting , ambitious , arrogant career minded cut throat bastards.

With respect to my first post , Some people just don’t understand sarcasm.

“I’m a Catholic but the church does not represent me at all”??? Cop out. They should be ashamed to call themselves Catholics and embarrassed that they profess a “faith” in a mass murderer! What do you believe in? A celestial dictatorship? A racist sky fairy? A promoter of slavery? Allowing children (14 year old girls) to get married by men in frocks in Vatican City? Either which way you look at it you need psychiatric help!

Hard to judge much from a picture of the back of people’s heads. I’d look at the evidence rather than a rather poor choice of photograph.

Disagree maria,, my judgement is not based on the back of their heads, it is based on their greater concern for the preservation of an organisation through the judging of others as being equal and lesser than them. That is the evidence, its called the Catholic faith……unlike the absence of any evidence to support the concept of a life hereafter, a god, jesus, mary, miracles or any of those nonsensical fables that certain foolish people use as a means of repression and thinking they will live forever. Over to you.

It could make a difference though it’s not at all likely. In Latin America the Liberation Theologists (who were silenced by Ratzinger offered a progressive vision and were genuine allies of the poor. As I said, it’s not at all likely.

@Simon: What are you talking about “absence of evidence for miracles”? There’s countless cases of cures etc that medical science can’t explain. Countless documented cases. Absence of evidence indeed.

Aw Jim Jim Jim there is no such thing as a miracles . We have sudden unforseen fortunate events such as a goal in the dying seconds of a game we refer to a miracle or a close shave with death in an accident but there are no true cases of miracles. We may talk of illness where body has recovered on itsvoen from near death. Maybe current medicine can’t explain but we know do little about how our genome fights some infections it can be a case that we cure ourselves . But to the ignorant its a miracle. Fishery beeds have nothing to do with it. I myself recovered from a cardiac arrest due to uncontrolled high fever. My heart just gave out and I was a child but ya know what they shocked me back. Miracle? I don’t think so just medical science delivering an electric pulse to my heart nothing more. Oh by the way I’ll let you in on dimething . For the couple of minutes I had no heartbeat there was no angels or anything like that. That only happens with lack of oxegen and brain going into dream mode

Where the body recovered on it own

Rosary beeds

Just making corrections :) or maybe its divine will that I make them

Unfortunately for you that’s not the case. I’m catholic. The underground catholic movement is huge. Catholics may have issues with Church attendance etc true, but the belief is there and strong. Catholics are afraid to confess their faith in public due to the reactions that are documented here every time a story on church related issues runs. It’s a pity reasoned debate is an abstract issue to most journal readers.

The underground anti-catholic movement is huge also and grows bigger day by day.

Another Catholic that thinks themselves a victim, a member of an organisation that green-lighted genocide, allied itself with tyrants, oppressed women, raped, tortured and enslaved children while covering it up, committed terrible atrocities against the LGBT community and continues to deny them their rights does not deserve to be considered a victim when they are ridiculed.

The only place the Roman Church is flourishing is Africa and the poorer parts of South America, proving the church grows best in the soil of ignorance and human misery.

David Jordan , brilliantly said.

James the church is and always has been about controlling people from fear. I font blame you for having your beliefs your entitled to them and your as much a victim too having it drilled into you. Your mind has from childhood accepted a lie so its impossible to change how your brain is wired. I just hope you have the good sense not to ever subject your children to the vile cult

@eye see all: it wasnt from childhood

Kevin,you seriously need help buddy. The church is an institution and nothing to do with my faith . It is a bunch of people that have set themselves up to represent what they think we should do.
I like to visit a small chapel to pay my personal respects when there is nobody there .
I totally respect other peoples views (including yours) and I don’t try to ram my beliefs down other peoples necks.
I actually agree with you with religon being the root of all conflict but it’s not the belief,it’s the clowns that try to force their views and beliefs on others.
I’m not in any way trying to annoy you and in fairness to you I can see where your coming from .