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Dick Roche: "There are a lot of errors" in Wicklow count

The under-threat minister says he still has a shout in Wicklow – and that there are ‘hundreds’ of papers under scrutiny.

Updated, 14.20 with image of Wicklow ballot paper

OUTGOING JUNIOR MINISTER Dick Roche has insisted he is correct to seek a full recount of the votes cast in Wicklow – saying there are “hundreds” of ballot papers that should now be subject to scrutiny.

Roche, the outgoing junior minister for European affairs, told RTÉ’s News at One that the size of the ballot paper in Wicklow – where there were 24 candidates running for five seats – meant the ballot paper was unusually laid out in two parallel columns, thus causing some voters to mistake the two as independent lists.

With other individual errors on ballot papers, there was a significant pile of ballot papers which required scrutiny, with legal teams for the remaining candidates on their way to the count centre.

A full recount – as requested by Roche, who has been eliminated on the 13th count by three votes – has not yet been granted, although a recheck of that 13th count is still ongoing as the questionable ballot papers are checked.

“First and foremost I believe not only does every vote count, but every vote has been counted properly,” Roche said.

“There are a lot of errors here… it’s no fault of the staff here, they’ve done a good job very carefully,” he added, adding: “With this massive ballot paper, there are an awful lot of marked votes here.”

Roche said it was vitally important to clarify which of the two surviving Fianna Fáil candidates – either himself or Pat Fitzgerald – was to proceed, because tally analysis indicated that Roche would benefit from more of Fitzgerald’s transfers than the other way around.

With the possible Fianna Fáil preferences of Joe Behan, who would be next eliminated, and locally-oriented transfers from Labour’s Tom Fortune thereafter, Roche contended he could still maintain the Dáil seat he has held since 1997, and from 1987 to 1992.

A full recount seems on the cards in Wicklow now, however, with a number of candidates apparently seeking legal guidance on the legitimacy or otherwise of a significant number of potentially spoiled ballots.

Update: Reader Eamon Harbison has sent us a photograph of a Wicklow ballot – which helps to explain why so many papers could have been spoilt. Note the two parallel lists, the thick black barrier between the two lists, and the number of empty boxes where party logos would appear – which could have been used to indicate voting preference.

Explained: why the Wicklow count is taking so long >

Poll: Is Dick Roche right to ask for a recount? >

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    Mute Willie Marty
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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:42 AM

    The cheek of him.How can the DUP even begin to lecture everybody else when they wont turn up at Stormont.Get back to work Geoffrey and get used to powersharing.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:58 AM

    There was a time when the DUP and their ilk owned the Police. It only needed a quiet word and they would do their dirty work for them. Times have moved on. Although Jeffrey would wish for it, they don’t have that kind of hold and control anymore.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:37 AM

    These jokers aren’t even in government..

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 10:06 AM

    Equality feels like oppression to the “no surrender” mob. Very very short memories across the border.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 10:17 AM

    Isn’t it ironic that the party that should be doing most to make NI work are the party that are showing how much of a failure it actually is. If only they could make nationalists feel welcome. But alas, it’s in their DNA to be supremacists.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 3:20 PM

    @Anthony Curran: thankfully they don’t possess the intellect or ability to enforce that view like their ancestors . God love them .

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 10:05 AM

    Good old Geoffrey. Have cake and
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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:57 AM

    We refuse to honour democracy but we are of king Billy’s spawn and fearfully hate is in our dna.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:55 AM

    He must be great then.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 4:21 PM

    From the party who won’t accept democracy because they drove themselves down a blind alley in a vain attempt to reinstall a hard border on the island. They were also busy meeting with the head of the loyalist communities council (whatever that is meant to be) rather than the head of the PSNI a while back. At the root of everything is that their hegemony in NI is gone and they can’t accept that fact so lash out in all directions. It will not end well for them.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 12:29 PM

    With the DUPers it’s always No.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 4:51 PM

    Does anybody pay attention to the DUP anymore. Pretty sure they have no confidence in anybody.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 6:54 PM

    Where was this motion served? Can this be done by a political party when parliament is closed?

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 6:12 PM

    Jeff needs a lifeline of some sort, so this no confidence motion will highlight the DUP for a few days

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:12 PM

    Jeffrey doesnt want to play second fiddle in stormont and now he wants the PSNI chief out,what next for him?

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    Sep 3rd 2023, 9:00 AM

    True to form Dr. NO, says NO NO NO way.

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    Sep 2nd 2023, 9:01 PM

    The fact the DUP have no confidence in him is a sure fire

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    Sep 3rd 2023, 4:16 PM

    Does he ever get embarrassed. He hasn’t done a days work since he was elected. He then has the Gaul to comment on someone else’s efforts.
    When you get off your butt and grow up Jeff, people might take you seriously. At the moment you’re just a little winger

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    Sep 3rd 2023, 9:47 PM

    Séathrún Mac Dhomhnaill

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