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Dublin radio station hopes suicidal caller is getting ‘appropriate support’

A man called Dublin radio station FM104 yesterday evening and threatened to jump off a bridge at Loughlinstown.

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A DUBLIN RADIO station which yesterday evening broadcast a live call with a man threatening to jump from a bridge in Loughlinstown, Co Dublin, has expressed hope that the caller was now “getting the appropriate support he requires”.

The FM104 Phoneshow took a call on Thursday evening from a highly distressed man identifying himself as “Jay”. He told the presenter he had a knife and threatened to jump off the bridge.

Jay talked to presenter Jeremy Dixon about his psychosis and the treatment he had received. He also became angry on several occasions and shouted at Gardaí who had been called to the scene, telling them to get off the bridge.

The man’s parents were also at the scene.

Dixon asked the man to drop the knifes and step back to safety. Jay then passed the phone to his father, to whom Dixon said:

To be honest I didn’t want this to happen on the radio, this was thrown upon me at the last minute. I’m dealing with it in the best way I can – I’m not qualified to deal with this.

Your son clearly, for some reason, wanted to talk to FM104… is there any way he’ll come down off that bridge?

In answering to a number of queries about why the radio station continued to broadcast the call, Dixon said there was “no other way to deal with it”:  “He wanted to talk to FM104. He didn’t ring anybody else, he didn’t ring his family, he rang FM104…When someone rings and they feel as desperate and that, there is only one thing to do and that is to talk to them…Hopefully it has worked.”

He added, “I would have preferred that conversation to happen off the air. Physically it was not possible for it to happen off air.”

Gardaí confirmed last night that an operation had taken place at Loughlinstown since about 9.50pm, but added no further details would be released.

Today, Programme Director at FM104 Dave Kelly commented on the incident, saying it was “a very highly charged emotional situation for all concerned”.

Our presenter’s priority throughout was his concern for the caller’s well-being while, behind the scenes, our production team got in touch with relevant organisations to help him directly. We hope Jay is now getting the appropriate support he requires and I would like to thank our staff for handling a very difficult situation with such care and sensitivity.

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  • One of the most important guidelines that the media are asked to observe when reporting on suicide issues is not to sensationalise matters. Whatever about the DJ dealing with it the best he could, the radio station as a whole messed up big time.

    Asking people to phone and text in with their opinions etc, and cutting to commercial breaks as it was all happening. Distasteful, inappropriate and completely irresponsible to allow it as part of the program.

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  • We can all have opinions in this and either answer can be right but the Presenter was the one talking to him and the last person to try and stop a man from ending his life.Thats not a position any of us would ever want to be put in and until we are,it’s very hard to be able to judge what the best thing to do was. Whatever about the producers of the show,the presenter made a spur of the moment decision and like Jonathan above said,kept him talking while the appropriate help arrived

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  • From what I heard of the call jay was listening to the show on earphones while on the phone to jeremy.He wanted it broadcast so people would know how hard it has been for him to get the help he needed.

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    • mart_n 11/01/13 #

      Just because he wanted it doesn’t mean that the station had to oblige. What if he had of jumped onto the road in front of a vehicle, while live on air? What effect would that of had on listeners; some of whom may be suffering with mental problems themselves?

      I doubt the program would have been allowed to go out if it was a teenage girl on the phone threatening to cut her wrists. The circumstances last night made for good listening, and it’s naive to think that that didn’t play a part in the decision to air it.

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    • We all agree it was a difficult situation,we dont have to agree if the station made the right one!I certainly wouldnt like to have been the decision maker last nite.they were damned if they did and damned if they didnt!

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    • Reading all the comments bellow and listening to part of tonight’s radio show, I am shocked and what the country has come to. I am even more shocked that a national radio station would allow a person to attempt suicide live on air.
      I do not buy into the suggestion the DJ did his best under the circumstances on the night. It was clear from the start that this guy was unstable for many reasons. It was mentioned below that apparently the guy was on air with them back in May after having been up on the bridge threatening the same thing. If that true it makes it even worse as surely they keep some sort of list of callers that are a risk on air. Why did he cut to ads mid-crisis? So the station revenue was important at this particular time. Somebody suggested he could not cut him off as he may have done it but it was okay to cut him off for the comercials. Give me a break! And how many copycat calls will there be over the next month?
      I am sure as also suggested that this practiced is outlawed by the body responsible for radio. I know it is in the UK as a friend worked in the BBC and was telling me that they had a delay system to stop this kind of thing on live radio shows. It concerns me what would have happened if the guy really did take his life on the air. Would that have been entertaining radio? I think not and I am sure jobs would be lost.
      I am aware that this show and others dangle on the edge of legality but on this occasion i think they went too far. It seems they took advantage and a risk that the guy wouldn’t do it and rolled with the publicity which is the most irresponsible radio broadcast I have ever heard on a national radio station. Yes suicide needs awareness but this is not the way to do it. The radio station have left themselves wide open for every unsettled person to call in and do the same. Will they allow live murders on next to top that?

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    • Just to note, FM104 is local Dublin station, not a national one (although of course you can get it online anywhere). Also, the delay you speak of is a profanity delay, usually they give only about 8 seconds in which you can hang up on the caller and move on. Once the “Jay” got on air, he was threatening to jump if cut off, so a delay would not have solved the problem. Jeremy’s producer should have exercised their editorial judgement and not put the guy on in the first place.

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  • 4 all the dj knew that man coulda had a radio with him and if he heard the radio station cut him off air then he coulda jumped of the bridge… If you ask me they done good by keeping him busy till help got there..

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    • I agree. It has also highlighted peoples attitudes to people who express thoughts of suicide. The HSE provide free training called ASIST and safeTALK in how to deal with situations of managing suicide ideation.

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  • This man needed emergency services

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  • All the people giving out for it been aired, if he had of cut him off or went off air to speak and that lad had of jumped.. I can gaurentee you would be on here today giving him abuse because he caused the man to jump… He was put in a no win situation and dealt with it the best way he could… Until any of us are in that position we can not judge. Well done jeremy dixon

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    • Katrina,

      I did not hear the broadcast but from posts above I believe the presenter went to commercial breaks and also encouraged people to continue texting in opinions. Do you not think that is a bit strange given the circumstances?

      Now it was a very very tricky position to be put in but I would question the stations motive in letting this man on air in the first place

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    • I was listening robert he did gobto a lot of breaks to ring garda and such.. I personally never heard him say text in opinions .. He spent a whole hour or more talking to this lad…. Now im not sure who let him talk to the presenter but once he got on air he said if he was cut of he would jump plus he had knives on him and said he’d cut himself. So what was the presenter to do!! its not a chance i would be willing to take.

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    • Yeah I don’t know, if they were that concerned for his safety I don’t think they would have been taking breaks? They were running the risk of a mentally unstable man thinking he had been taken off air?

      It’s all just speculation but the cynic in me can’t let it go that he was let on air in the first place.

      Hope the man gets himself sorted

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  • Dmc 11/01/13 #

    The man is alive. Looks like the station made the right choice

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  • i have an idea what the mans frustrations are with, getting the right help. if you only knew, there are so called professionals working here with HSE that only care about their next paycheque. i’ve struggled, i’m still struggling with one or two of them. imagine, having to struggle with the people you expect to help you other than undermine you, dodge questions about what they say to you because they are that ‘dodgy’. tell you things like “theres no point in going to psychotherapy if you’re feeling suicidal” from a psychiatrist! “we can’t stop you from taking your own life” no such thing as telling the patient: “but we can try to stop you and help you recover?”
    another one is the struggle to get forms requested by social welfare when in fact they should be dealing with the gps and psychiatrists directly when the person is not able to cope! cope with the backlash, their bad attitude to mental health patients who have difficulty speaking up for themselves, the reluctance to help them fill it in! you wouldn’t believe the background crap that goes on. was also asked by one “why does everybody want to be on disability?” THEY JUST DON’T GET IT. CONSTANTLY PULL PULL PULL AGAINST THE PERSON WHO HAS NEEDS AND NEEDS THESE SIMPLE THINGS TO HELP THEM GET BY WHILE THEY TRY TO GET THEIR LIFE BACK ON TRACK AND CONCENTRATE ON THERAPY NOT WHERE THEIR NEXT BIT OF FOOD COMES FROM. Another Occup therapist said to me: “well you know, we’re going through a recession and some people see getting on disability as an extra income” ???? WHAT?? what extra income? there is none! its the same rate as jobseekers! The judgemental uneducated insults i’ve had to bear from these yolks i’d write a book on it. There are many bullies and they’re in here too.

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  • I think fair play to FM104 if the guy demanded to be aired, otherwise he’d jump. Imagine they didn’t air it, and he jumped! Who would be blamed? The radio station. they did the right thing, and hopefully Jay is now getting the help he needs.

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    • mart_n 11/01/13 #

      No right minded person would have blamed the station had the guy jumped. If he had jumped while live on air then things would have been a lot worse, the presenter would have had to carry that with him because he was acting as a councilor to the guy at the time. Nobody could have known what Jay’s true intentions were, and that’s why it should have been nipped in the bud early on.

      The fact they kept cutting to commercials and asking folk to text in with their comments makes it even more abhorrent.

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  • Tell me, why did they not cut to music and deal with this lad off air? Why air it? Publicity maybe? To have news stories with their name attached floating about today? Like this one? I’m very dubious over the intentions of the people who allowed that to air.

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    • Jay rang in and demanded that Jeremy air everything he had to say otherwise he would jump. What would you do in that situation?

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    • It’s very easy to tell if there’s a radio on near the phone. It’s called feedback. No feedback, no radio and that works digitally too as far as I know? What should he have done? They had two options.

      A. Cut to music and continued the call, dodge the bullet on the “are we on air” question and have the Gardai called by the support crew.

      B. Continue to air it and bolster ratings and kudos from the public with the eventual gain of profit for the station.

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    • Jay was listening to the show and wanted it to be heard on the show
      So what else was fm 104 to do ?

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    • padraig 11/01/13 #

      He could have been listening on the phone. That would mean no feedback. Phones have pretty good radios apps now, and many older ones have small radio receivers in them. I hope he gets all the necessary help.

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  • Does it really matter how it was handled? The young lad did not take his life that night, thats whats important.

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  • They could easily have continued to talk to the person off air and played music, very simple to do with the level of automation in radio.

    I think that the station were looking to boost ratings and the Programme Director knows that.

    In fairness to the presenter, he was put in a difficult position and handled it well.

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  • should never have been broadcast shame on fm104 for chasing ratings

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  • Airing this on radio was highly inappropriate. Hopefully FM104 did not seize this opportunity Nd use the man for publicity.

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  • No doubt the DJ was in a difficult position but it shouldn’t have been aired, very distasteful on FM104′s behalf.

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  • Jay made the most important phone call of his life and if the show insulted anyone’s sensitivities was it not worth it all at the end of the day their was a life saved and hopefully Jay is now getting all the help he needs to well and strong to get on with his life.Come on folks the Radio Station did the right thing. A young life is here today and this may open up an honest and true debate own the subject of suicide.Talking about Suicide does not increase the numbers that take their own lives But it may save a few lives

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  • They could have cut the broadcast and went to music, something from R. Kelly would have been appropriate

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  • Its rather astonishing, these type are the very ones who will tell you for example that, just because one person did bad to you doesn’t mean the next one will etc yet if someone talks about harming themselves they’re an attention seeker just like the last one? like the one in the textbook? but this one may actually proceed which inevitably makes them different. These type are messed up wrong professionals if you ask me. They need help. Always getting it wrong. There are therapists out there that can make you worse, finding the right one is hard

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  • From listening to it last night he just wanted attention. He didn’t sound like a man about to take his own life, even when passing the phone to his Dad he very normally passed the phone on “here”. Then his Dad was as equally calm/normal. And let’s be honest the bridge he picked, had he jumped I highly doubt it would of killed him.

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    • @Snatcher and your qualifications are???

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    • regardless of qualifications, even psychologists and psychiatrists do tend to apply textbook theory and bracket off individuals as ‘attention seekers’ like its the ‘boy who cried wolf” you could say until well… something does happen which totally throws their textbook back in the bin where it belongs. Their attitude makes matters worse and does not help to address the suicide issue. They’re not in my book fit for purpose. The majority of ‘proper’ experienced professionals know that just because someone talks about suicide doesn’t mean they’re looking for attention but is deemed a serious threat, everything is taken seriously because nobody ever knows. There are of course self harmers, constantly self harming, cutting themselves etc particularly young girls.

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  • Ronan 12/01/13 #

    Btw..Wrong bridge in article photo.. It was the footbridge further up nearer the hospital. It’s Jay’s preferred bridge, he’s up there every other week.

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  • The way I see it Jeremy Dixon done the right thing if he had to refuse to talk to jay it might have pushed jay over the edge as he would prob be thinking here is another person who won’t listen or help me , and no one should be on here criticising anybody because nobody knows what they would do until put into that situation themselves and as for that TD who got involved think he said the show was just trying to boost ratings well its the most listened to radio station in Ireland so it doesn’t need to and he was the one trying to make a name for himself he would be better off making sure that people like jay get the help that they need in the first place and not be criticising Jeremy for trying to help the poor man think its disgusting that a TD can give out about @jeremydixon104 when the likes of him and his cronies has the country in the state that it is

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  • I agree with John Murray, and think the DJ did what he thought was best at the time. As he said, he wasn’t qualified to deal with that type of situation. So glad it didn’t end with the boy being hurt physically, as that would be a hard burden to bear for anyone.
    I hope at this stage strategies have been put in place to prevent any future on-air sensationalism like this.

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  • JakkiB 11/01/13 #

    So another guy jumped into the river last night also, Reading early morning news this morning 2 bodies have been discovered ???
    Both were not at the same location

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  • Well personally it’s never happened me in work that someone’s got on the phone & said they’re going to jump but I’m sure if they did, I would do my best to help them & I do think that’s what Jeremy did. I also think however that if you’re going to jump off a bridge, you don’t call a local radio station. He may be depressed. He may be in a dark place, but it’s an odd thing for someone who’s genuinely suicidal to do.

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    • Eimear tell me what is ” Normal ” for a person contemplating suicide then

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    • the man wanted everyone to know that the help he’s getting is not the help he should be getting. caught up in a system that is not working, where theres dodgy doctors pretending to help, waiting for their next pay cheque. The good therapists don’t come cheap. cut backs gives you trainee inexperienced psycho babblers who could spend 2 years in a room with a sick person and get nowhere. i’ve been to a counciller here about 10 times and all she did was take notes. i know what this man is going through, and hopefully someone out there GOOD ENOUGH to help him will find him.

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    • Bernadette, I never used the phrase “normal” if you care to re-read nor would I. I didn’t discount the mans mental state as being in a bad place either. Please don’t mis-quote me needlessly.

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    • @Eimear I know you did not say ” Normal” I am asking you as you said ” if you’re going to jump off a bridge you don’t call a radio station.”So my question is again what is ” normal ” for someone that is contemplating suicide?

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  • Totally irresponsible & reprehensible to broadcast this all in the name of improving ratings & ‘ entertainment’ -a new nadir reached in Irish Radio with this.

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