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€1.8m regulator’s office ‘investigated one complaint per day’ – Ryanair

Michael O’Leary demands that the Commission for Aviation Regulation explain why its staff are paid such a high average salary.

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Updated, 12.43

RYANAIR CHIEF EXECUTIVE Michael O’Leary has written to the Commission for Aviation Regulation (CAR) demanding an explanation as to why it pays its staff an estimated average of €100,000 per year.

In a letter copied to transport minister Leo Varadkar and the Dáil’s Public Accounts Committee, O’Leary accuses CAR chairman Cathal Guiomard of “continuing obfuscation” on the staffing levels of his office.

The letter, released late last week, outlines demands for the CAR to explain its annual wage bills of €1.8 million for an office of 18 staff, with O’Leary claiming that Guiomard had failed to explain how those staff were allocated.

Referring to a previous letter from Guiomard to the Ryanair chief, O’Leary accuses Guiomard of “deliberate obfuscation” on the work carried out by his office, pointing out that the 2010 annual report showed the regulator had handled only 241 customer complaints – fewer than one per day – during a year which included significant air travel curtailments as a result of the Icelandic ash cloud.

It had also licensed 280 travel agents, the equivalent of around 23 per month, as well as eight airlines.

The CAR says O’Leary had mis-stated the level of complaints handled, saying the 241 figure relates only to disputes that elevated into formal investigations of breaches of consumer law. The office had actually responded to 5,000 requests and complaints in 2010.

In his letter the Ryanair chief also lets fly at the commission’s operating costs, including the spending of €283,000 on city centre offices; the Mullingar native argues that the offices should be based at cheaper sites closer to Dublin Airport, which relates to the majority of its work.

“Given the tiny ‘workflows’ undertaken by your over-staffed office, we – as one of the airlines which pays for your inadequate regulation – are entitled to know what your 18 overpaid, underworked staff actually do,” O’Leary writes, before concluding:

Given the abject failure of aviation regulation under your tenure as regulator, we as one of Ireland’s largest airlines and one of the principal victims of your inadequate regime are entitled to know what our excessive regulatory fees are being wasted on by you and your 17 colleagues who cost this industry over €100,000 p.a. each.

A spokesperson for the CAR this morning said the regulator had substantially responded to O’Leary’s claims in an original letter written in January, which outlined how the CAR’s budget was 25 per cent lower in 2010 than it was in 2006, when it had employed 22 staff.

In that letter, Guiomard said the CAR’s average salary level – which should be calculated when removing salary and pension costs, which left a pay bill of €1.4 million – reflected “the fact that a high proportion of our staff are qualified to an advanced level in areas such as economics, law and accountancy”.

He added that the average pay rate had climbed as a result of moving administrative work onto the web and reduced the number of clerical staff employed by the regulator.

The letter also added that many people making statutory complaints through the CAR did not find a Dublin Airport premises suitable, and that its 2010 work also included dealing with many claims resulting from Budget Travel’s liquidation in November 2009.

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  • Not mad on him, but like the way he rattles the cages of the establishment from time to time.

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    • It’s hard not to agree with Michael O’leary sometimes!You couldn’t have him running a country though! His politics are even more right wing than what we’ve had for the last 20 years or so! The first thing he’d do in power would be to get the unemployed and elderly shot!

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    • Efficiency has nothing to do with being right wing! When a government body spends tax payers money it always wastes it.

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  • He has a point. He also highlighted the fact that bureaucrats in the EU are not allowed to use budget airlines, another area of huge wastage.

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  • Is this another of those quangos the current administration pledged to reform?

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  • Like him or hate him, he’s always bang on with his analysis. I’d love to see him in public office with a mandate from the people of this country to get us out of our financial dilemma. It’d be sorted in less than 5 years I’d imagine. I’m sure we would all face even more severe austerity measures in the short term but we’d be guaranteed results after the 5 year period ..

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  • so you choose to use them twice and then choose not to. thats fine your free choice and right as a consumer, however MOL’s point remains valid when it comes to the monopoly that is the regulator…..

    as for RyanAir and the way it treats its customers, well 76 million people used them in 2011 which speaks for itself.

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  • Totally agree with the point that Michael O’Leary is bang on with his analysis. If we had just a few people like him in government or in the public service we would turn this country around in jig time.

    Also isn’t it a great shame that a young Minister like Leo Varadkar who was so energetic and articulate in setting out the waste of pubic funds and the need for reform while in opposition, has taken just one year as Minister to mellow into middle of the road, don’t rock the boat, do nothing politics.

    The government’s pace in tackling any kind of reform that makes a difference is the current scandal.

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  • 1. Ryanair cabin crew staff do have to pay for their uniforms, yes. So? My brother is a chef and he paid for his uniform…
    2. You say if you ‘treated your customers the way Ryanair do’, you wouldn’t have a business left. Last time I checked, Ryanair was doing pretty well for itself. I’d argue that if you used the same business model, and treated customers the way Ryanair does…your business would be a success. On that note, I fly with Ryanair weekly, and the staff have always been excellent. I’ve never had a bad experience.
    3. Ryanair is not meant to be a luxury airline, with reclining seats, free food and foot rests… It’s a no frills, low fares airline. The staff are not there to make sure everybody has a cozy pillow and a blanket… You pay 50 euro to go from A to B. Ryanair take you from A to B. If you want a drink or a sandwich while your on board…buy one. If you want the most comfortable seat, go elsewhere. It’s as simple as that.
    Ryanair are a great business and a decent airline. You get exactly what you pay for. And, as Ciaran said, since their customers increase constantly, then it would indeed seem that the majority of people like what Ryanair offers.

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  • Ahh Michael.

    These poor guys need €100k a year to fly business class everywhere with Aer lingus.
    (although they probably get that for free in their expenses aswell)

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  • Its such a shame people like Michael O’Leary dont run for office in this country, this country would be in a far better position now if they did

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    • unfortunately whilst he would probably excellent he is probably unelectable as he would not be capable / willing to participate in the type of gombeen parish pump politics it takes to get elected in this country. i would place people like Declan Ganley in the same category fwiw.

      the only way we will see their likes in government (assuming they would be willing) is either via a list system or a direct appointment system like France or the US. of course that would require the current political parties / system being willing to change and support such a model, turkey’s and christmas springs to mind

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    • exactly, take George Lee as an example. He couldn’t stick it because of the things that went on.

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  • A person applies for job with Ryanair.
    Ryanair interview and explain Terms & Conditions of job in full to the person.
    The person accepts terms of employment and begins work.
    The person then wails and moans about Terms and Conditions of employment.
    So Ryanair have employed The Person under false pretenses ?
    Oh Please.

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  • Another quango draining business taxes. Nothing changes.

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  • If O’Leary was to run for office you’d probably have to pay extra to vote for him and he’d end up in a constituency 40 miles from the one he ran in.

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    • Ridiculous statement altogether. The airports that are serviced by Ryanair are well mapped, the pricing policies of Ryanair are completely transparent.. If you don’t like them then fly with another airline. You have choice. Booking with Ryanair is not a lottery, you pays your money and you land where you book to go.

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  • Yeah if Mick ran the country the household services charge would only be €5*

    *plus a €1 for every inch over the average number of red bricks per grey subject to a minimum ratio of 2:3 and a clause that doubles the fee if your house has more than 1.5 toilets and transaction surcharge of €25 if you don’t pay it with the low rate blue version of his credit card (applicable applicant must earn less than 10k, over 90 years of age)

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  • Use them twice and never again,Ryanair staff are forced pay for their own training and uniforms nice , if you are happy with what they call a service then everyone to their own personally If I treated my customers the way Ryanair do I would not have any business left, its not a case of good/bad service its a case of no service, again Oleary is always up to his old tricks off season pointing the finger elsewere having a rant and distracting prople from the fact that Ryanair are poor vaule , no service, could not care less airline company/

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    • Everyone has choice. If staff don’t like the conditions under which they work then they too have choice, they can leave or stay. And as Ryanair customers increase it would seem that as customers they like at least something Ryanair offers. Your argument about not having a business if you treated your customers like Ryanair do is obviously not relevant to Ryanair. Maybe they offer poor customer service, maybe they couldn’t care less, maybe they treat staff badly, but the figures don’t parlay that ..

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    • Its not maybe could not care less its a fact ,nil customer service fact, poor value for money fact , staff badly treated fact , only reason his is winning the numbers game is because the larger % of his client base are eastern european who in general would have a lower expectation level in relation to the formentioned issues, Oleary is as bogey as them come and believe me if it was not for the fact that he is Irish I guarentee that peoples attitude towards him and his company would be different

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  • Its easy to point the finger when companies like ryan air pay their staff pittance ,who in turn treat punters like second clss citizens and herd them like cattle , and are waithg to pounce to charge you extra euros for being 1 gram overweight with your luggage and waffle on about being a lo cost operator when in fact its all a myth, Oleary should look at his own house first and if people are happy to be treated like dirt the look no further than your old pal Michael to bring you from A to B

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    • the big difference is that no one is forced to use or work for RyanAir, they offer a service at a price and are very open about charges, etc. if you don’t like it then go elsewhere….

      however the regulator is a statutory body that Airlines (and other’s) have to use, set their own pricing and charges, etc, have no competition and effectively answer to no one…..

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    • Very well said totally agree

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    • I got a free extra legroom emergency window row seat on a Ryanair flight to myself last week. Really made my day. :)

      PS I’ve never been treated like dirt by Ryanair and I’ve flown with them about 200+ times. You should try them, they are nearly always on time or even early. Their pilots are paid more than Aer Lingus’ afaik. [God ... should that be Aer Lingus's....I'll be attacked if wrong]

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  • Just wait and seen as ryanair who already have the monopoly over the airports that no one else will touch but have a value to so called budget punters starts turning the screw and run it like a cartel where customers will have no other choice than to use him, the largest %being east european punters, Oleary is going to fleece all and is playing the numbers game with the volumes of budget customers, the fact is not all budget customers get a budget price plenty of better value and service elsewere to be had even AIr Lingus makes ryanair look like a joke

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  • How much does Grumpy O’Leary earn?

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  • Michael o Leary’s only concern is making money using dubious methods.
    His employees are subjected to lowest standards of conditions.
    He doesn’t give a damn about his customers, and the concept of customer service is beyond his understanding.
    He could never run for public office as that would mean his business methods would-be scrutinized and he would be exposed for the shallowness of his empathy.

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    • Most of our politicians also posses a shallowness of empathy, while feigning the opposite. With O Leary you get what you see. That’s a refreshing transparent honesty, sadly lacking with elected representatives. O Leary doesn’t give a shit what you think of him, he’s there to do a job and he does a fine job. Again you have a choice, if you don’t like what you see, avail of another airline. While the same could be argued with political parties, it would seem that all politicians, regardless of party are lacking in empathy and therefore our choices in electing a government is a matter of choosing the best of a bad lot. We don’t have ANY credible alternative when elections come around. One party is as bad as another. Again, at least with L O Leary, you’d get what you see.

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    • Well said Michael 100% correct

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    • Hugh, you can’t be 100% correct, see Gödel’s incompleteness theorems. So you’re wrong.

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  • Just wait and seen as ryanair who already have the monopoly over the airports that no one else will touch but have a value to so called budget punters starts turning the screw and run it like a cartel where customers will have no other choice than to use him, the largest %being east european punters, Oleary is going to fleece all and is playing the numbers game with the volumes of budget customers, the fact is not all budget customers get a budget price plenty of better value and service elsewere to be had even AIr Lingus makes ryanair look like a joke,a not so cheap airline for cheap people

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  • Dave 12/03/12 #

    I wonder how you’d all feel if it was your daughter working as cabin crew with Ryanair and getting treated like shit.

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  • Aleo 12/03/12 #

    In all these matters the consumer has the last word, whether Michael O’Leary feels comfortable about it or not. We can travel with airlines other than Ryanair, as I have done for the last few years since I was treated aggressively by a Ryanair staff member, who was certainly not reflecting the way I was dealing with him. I’ve never regretted my decision, but I believe the CAR would offer great value for money if it pushed itself forward to the travelling public as an independent body that could investigate their complaints and advise them how best to take action, if they find themselves badly treated by any airline.

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