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Leaders’ Questions: Micheál Martin says health service is a ‘catastrophe’

Taoiseach Enda Kenny faced questions from the opposition in the Dáil this afternoon as TDs returned to action with plenty of fiery rhetoric.

Enda Kenny in the Dáil this afternoon.
Enda Kenny in the Dáil this afternoon.
Image: Screengrab via Oireachtas TV

TAOISEACH ENDA KENNY came in for strong questioning over the performance of his Health Minister James Reilly in the Dáil today as the first Leaders’ Questions of the new term was held.

Reilly faces a motion of no confidence later tonight and ahead of that, Kenny came in for criticism over the state of the health service which Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin, himself a former health minister, described as a “catastrophe”.

Martin said that the performance of James Reilly in the post had left “a deep sense of despair across the health sector”. Reilly has come under pressure over the budget overspend in the HSE this year.

Martin said that the health service budget was “false and dishonest” and pinpointed comments from the junior ministers in the Department of Health whom he said had not expressed their confidence in Reilly in recent media interviews.

He said: “Minister Shortall was asked specifically had she confidence in Minister Reilly […] So was Minister (for Social Protection Joan) Burton and so was Minister Jan O’Sullivan… They all refused to say, quite simply, I have confidence in Minister James Reilly.”

“Is Minister Shortall correct in saying that the government’s commitment to health reform is being threatened because of his lack of proactive engagement with the issues?” he put it to the Taoiseach.

Kenny pointed to “the mess” that he said Martin and his party had left behind in the Department of Health during their time in government and pointed to a reduction in the number of patients on trolleys of 22 per cent.

He said that the number of adults waiting over 12 months for inpatient and day case surgery is down since the coalition took office and said that legislation regarding pricing was being brought before the Dáil tomorrow.

‘Monster you created’

Kenny admitted that legislation regarding the provision of free GP care was behind schedule but said that this was on the “A list”. “Work continues to get that bill in here as quickly as we can,” he added.

Kenny insisted that Reilly had the support of both the Fine Gael and Labour parties and slammed Martin for his party’s handling of the health service when in government.

“You never bothered to look at the monster you created, and that’s going to change now,” the Taoiseach said.

Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams questioned the Taoiseach on cuts to mental health assistance and called on the Taoiseach to admit that the health service is in ‘deep crisis’.

Unsurprisingly the Taoiseach did not admit this and batted away further criticism from independent TD Shane Ross who raised the issue of the effect pre-budget speculation is having on pensioners.

“What is happening here is that the middle classes and the lower paid are being prepared for another blow which they cannot take,” Ross told the Taoiseach.

On the issue of the property tax, which was also raised, Kenny said that the only decisions made on this were that it would be administered by the Revenue Commissioners and would take effect from 1 July next year.

He also said that the IMF recommendation of it being levied at 0.5 per cent of the house value would not be taken on board.

Kenny insisted: “Anything else outside of those decisions is speculative. I’ve seen one newspaper saying that a decision was made that the rate would be at a certain level. All of these things are being speculated.”

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Comments (32 Comments)

  • zebedee 18/09/12 #

    It’s only Tuesday……I cannot take much more of this BS.

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  • That’s rich coming from Michaél Martin, wasn’t he minister for health at one stage and all he did was request report, after report, after report??

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  • It was Micheál Martin who established the HSE. Fianna Fáil TD’s have a short memory…

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  • this Michael martin has a neck like a jockeys bollix,the health service is in this mess because of him and his cronies,he should hang his head in shame,not that the new regime is any better but couldn’t be much worse then the last bunch of chancers

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  • Was not Reilly banging on about the changes he would introduce to the health service for about 2 years before he came into power? Cheaper medicine & Dr’s for all. 18 months in no change so another government fails in his brief. But Kenny has full confidence in him and the government will vote on that confidence motion tonight. Remember who votes in favor of Reilly next time we have an election.

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  • @norman labour wont walk they have no balls like the greens. how can gilmore expect anybody to take anything he says
    seriously after the famous. labours way or frankfurts way, frankfurts way it is then

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  • What is point in no confidence vote?? Opposition.dont have enough votes to win it

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    • Gets a few Labour TD’s to look like fools.In an interveiw they can’t express confidence in the man,but in the Dail they have to.

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    • alan 18/09/12 #

      To let us see who supports who. But mainly to show us who Labour are supporting, in this case, FG policies and politicians. You have to sympathise with those Labour members who clearly have no confidence in Reilly. Or do you? If they feel strongly about this, then it is time they had the courage to says so (and to not hide behind the excuse that voting against Reilly puts Ff and others in a good light: maybe just once they could forget electoral politics and vote according to their beliefs

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  • Mehole calling the health service a catastrophe…? As opposed to when he was in charge when it a plain train wreck…health service is so top heavy its going to flip over but FF pandering to the electorate would grind on ya considering they were in charge of it during the most prosperous time in our history and still couldn’t get it right.

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  • Same shit different day just do us all a favour and quit reporting on these tossers

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  • Enda kenny looked like a bold school child today and Reilly looked as smug as they come. Time for this government to go

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  • The pot calling the kettle black. FF seem to be suffering some kind of collective amnesia… Then again who would want to remember getting the country into this state in the first place.

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  • * another government minister fails in his brief.

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  • Day 1 and the “It’s your fault” crap starts again.
    The government have failed and continue to create turmoil. The majority of the electorate (the ones that actually got off their arses) are sick of the arguing and verbal tripe . I can’t see this government lasting much longer .

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  • Two prostitutes one has syphilis and the other has crabs..sick of these old tip the hat cowardly bought and paid for politicians they are the complete opposite to what the people want .Were the feck is our President will he not open his mouth he knows the people are last on the agenda there all the one the would remind you of them filthy priests all covering up for each other spineless gits no wonder IMF Europe treats us like dirt.Fascists.

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  • Fianna fail, catastrophe, mmmmm …..

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  • The man has a very very short memory, his own party created the monster!!!

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  • RP I totally agree with your sentiment , The politics of health and the point scoring just continues to badly serve everyone.I am unsure why we need the house and opposing political parties to agree anything the whole point of electing a government and appointing a minister of health is to govern , the reform agenda is well understood as ate the obstacles. A classic example this week is consultants excessive pay , instead of addressing and forcing cuts the compromise is a reduction of future pay or new recruits , not a cut or existing excessive pay ( they still earn more than consultants most other European countries and we are broke in an IMF bailout plan ) , as a country we spend a decent amount of money on health and we should expect and demand our politicians reform and manage the health system to deliver efficiency rather than the excessive waste , massive over paying of consultants and top heavy admin and mgt positions which clearly exist.

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  • J.H.Christ, ALL prior Govts left the place a war zone. Harney, Martin and Reilly should sit down and talk. What did/do they come up against as the main 5 obstacles to progress in this mess that is ‘Outer Mongolia’. Formulate the action plan and ensure they have TOTAL HOUSE support for actions needed(5). Any civil servant, doctor, consultant, administrator, hospital management member, health insurance thief that acts in contradiction to that plan is fired/sidelined/shut down. When these matters are completed, then and only then, consult with outside bodies re their contracts, elite arrangements, work to rule type bullying, etc. There will be disruption and people may die(as they already do, due to it’s incompetence) but this behemoth of waste has to be tackled decisively. No more softly softly. No more buck passing. No more parish pump politics on such a national issue. It receives the highest budget, time for a decent return on investment for the tax payer.

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  • Reg 18/09/12 #

    Meehole makes me puke!

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  • Hey, there’s a good lure for investors to Ireland… “If you want to die waiting to see a specialist if your ill, come to Ireland!”

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  • Well, he would, wouldn’t he.

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