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Student plans Irish legal action over Facebook’s privacy policy

Max Schrems and his group, ‘Europe v Facebook’, is preparing legal action against the Irish Data Protection Commissioner over its recent audit of Facebook and its privacy policy.

Max Schrems sits with files about his activities on his Facebook account that Facebook handed over to him last year.
Max Schrems sits with files about his activities on his Facebook account that Facebook handed over to him last year.
Image: Ronald Zak/AP/Press Association Images

THE AUSTRIAN STUDENT who is the public face of an ongoing dispute with Facebook over its compliance with privacy laws says that an audit by the Irish Data Protection Commissioner is welcome, but doesn’t go far enough.

Max Schrems, of the ‘Europe v Facebook’ group, is in Dublin this week where he is stepping up efforts to take legal action against the Data Protection Commissioner (DPC).

Schrems says that the DPC’s recent audit of Facebook was not sufficient to deal with complaints his group has levelled against the social network’s compliance with European data protection principles and Irish law.

Facebook insists that it complies with the law and points out that two reports published by the Irish DPC show this. The DPC declined to answer specific queries, citing Europe v Facebook’s intention to challenge it in the courts.

Schrems, 25, is one of about 10 students involved with the Austrian-based group which has been questioning Facebook’s privacy policy for the past two years, leading to the recent audit by the DPC.

He told TheJournal.ie this week:

I think the audit was a good step in the right direction. There are things like the photo retention period, giving people more access to data than they had before, or the whole facial recognition thing which was for sure good.

But it’s still very short of the European law. I see that the DPC was trying [but] they are just overwhelmed by the situation. It’s a teeny, tiny, small authority… I think that was just too much for them to take in the end.

No contact

The DPC did not respond to specific queries from TheJournal.ie about its staff and resources. It referred to a statement it issued last week in which it said that it had not received contact from ‘Europe v Facebook’ about its grievances with the audit.

“We have consistently and repeatedly outlined to it (‘Europe v Facebook’) our happiness to take forward formal decisions of the Commissioner in relation to the complaints submitted in whatever time-scale is acceptable to it,” a spokesperson said last week.

“We have not received any contact from it in this respect but would assume based on the press release that we will shortly receive such contact which will allow us to commence the process.”

Schrems says he has tried to contact the DPC to arrange meetings while he is in Dublin this week but they have not responded to these requests.

Following the audit, Facebook Ireland, which is the official service provider for all Facebook users outside of the United States and Canada, agreed to a number of changes, including shortening the amount of time it retains deleted data and its automatic facial recognition software.

But ‘Europe v Facebook’ is not happy that Facebook has complied with a request to make data it holds about users available to those users. Facebook insists it “complies with European data protection principles and Irish law”.

Schrems described his own protracted battle with the company to get his personal data in 2010. He said that it took 22 emails for him to get 1,300 pages of data that Facebook held about him and even then he was concerned by what was in this information.

Information requests

“In these 1,300 pages you find like all deleted data they gathered from other people about you, data they generated themselves about you, like GPS locations of where you have likely been,” he said.

“I never used any GPS tracking, I never checked into Facebook or anything like that so there was a lot of stuff like that.”

Schrems said that after his case started to get public attention, Facebook received personal information access requests from some 40,000 users and that by law the company should have complied with these requests within 40 days.

But, he says, the Irish DPC gave the social networking giant a year.

He said: “Under the law they would have to deliver these requests in 40 days and now the DPC gave them one year to put in some kind of self-service downloads tool which is totally contrary to law because they have to give it up in 40 days.”

Schrems said that Facebook’s tool allowing users to download their data is not sufficient and claims that when he downloaded his own personal data set it did not contain information from his activity log from before 2010.

Facebook insists that it is not making it difficult for people to access their data and points out that anyone can use the ‘download your information’ tool within their account settings to get a copy of their data.

A spokesperson for Facebook said:

The way Facebook Ireland handles European personal data has been subject to thorough review by the Irish Data Protection Commissioner over the past year.The two detailed reports that the DPC has produced by the DPC demonstrate that Facebook Ireland complies with European data protection principles and Irish law. Nonetheless we have some vocal critics who will never be happy whatever we do and whatever the DPC concludes.

Legal action

Dissatisfied with the quality of the DPC audit, ‘Europe v Facebook’ is looking into taking legal action against the Irish Data Protection Commissioner, and by extension, Facebook, in relation to its compliance with data protection laws.

He says that the legal advice he has received in Ireland has been positive towards the case. Already a crowd-funding model on their ‘Europe v Facebook’ website has raised over €25,000 with the group estimating it will need hundreds of thousands of euro to take a case.

He said: “It’s not good enough to say ‘We did something and we moved it somewhere in the right direction’ if we have like fundamental human rights in the European Union that, to my understanding, they [the DPC] have to enforce fully and not halfway.”

The DPC told TheJournal.ie: “We have no further comment to make on the matters you have outlined as Europe v Facebook has chosen to engage in a legal process with our Office with a publicly stated intention to challenge our Office through the courts.”

Despite his ongoing battle with the Irish Data Protection Commissioner and Facebook, Schrems said that he is not concerned about Facebook’s security.

He said he just wants to be sure that the company is compliant with European data protection law and for this to be enforced by the DPC.

“I am still on Facebook because to me data protection is not about being against new technology, it’s about having trust in new technology,” he said.

Read: Privacy group says it may bring Facebook to Irish court

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Comments (34 Comments)

  • There is more to it than just posting personal pictures and keeping track of your key words. The cookies they leave on your computer track what you are browsing even after you log out. If people are fine with that , then ok. But some people are more private and dont want their computer browsing history and habits logged and sold.
    Personal data is one of the biggest commodities on the planet. That’s just a fact but people are not aware. When something online is free, you are the product.

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    • I aggree it is a problem if you are Tim Allen or Gary Glitter but for the majority of us who just access harmless sites does it really matter who knows what we are browsing .
      I rarely if ever click on advertising sites so been tracked is not a problem for me

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    • tom 12/12/12 #

      then you don’t mind email spam and advertising campaigns that use up your download allowance.

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    • @ Jerry So it’s a case of if you’re doing nothing wrong what have you got to hide?? Do you have curtains in your windows Jerry? Mind if I come around and look in your windows??

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    • Jerry wrote: “but for the majority of us who just access harmless sites does it really matter who knows what we are browsing”

      You do NOT represent the “majority” of people – what is your scientific basis to prove the “majority” don’t care? Been tracked is a very serious privacy concern that most people would object to. Stop allowing yourself to be duped.

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    • @rose as it happens I don’t have curtains neither do I mind the fact every-time I walk down the street, through an airport or into a Department store somebody somewhere is watching and recording where I am .

      However if it was just me that they were recording and just me been monitored on the internet I would worry hence I would not like rose to target my window to look in as that would be personal and not every window on the street .
      cookies are as much part of the internet as anything else and if you think sites such as this can operate as a charity you need to wake up

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    • Ross, You have 258 likes on your Facebook page and you say you don’t like been tracked ! You are Facebooks Dream client every time you like something Facebook make a few bob so if you don’t like it don’t use it simple as.

      Tom, I download very Little from the internet so my allowance does not worry me and I have a very good spam filter for junk emails .

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    • You know what Jerry. Whether you care about it or not, we do have a RIGHT to privacy. One that is frequently trampled all over by companies who care nothing for your rights.

      Maybe you’re comfortable living in Orwells 1984, but there’s a lot of people out there who would rather not. And there’s absolutely no reason why we should have to.

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    • @jerry please put a live streaming camera in your bathroom & bedroom after all you have nothing to hide do you?

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  • MD890 12/12/12 #

    I don’t have a Facebook account yet my phone has come with a pre-installed Facebook App (it can’t be deleted unless the phone is reconfigured) that runs in the background and collects data. Even when I stop this app, it automatically restarts after a few hours.

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  • Time people seriously considered deleting their Facebook accounts and stop being slaves to the big machine. Even Orwell couldn’t have imagined a society where people so freely and willingly acceded their privacy in the most blatant fashion for so little in return.

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  • Has he thought of just not using Facebook?

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  • I deleted my FB acc 12 months ago. Too much useless info coming at you from all directions. Was handy for keeping In touch with friends living abroad but way to many other and better options out there for that so for me it had ran its course but sure whatever you’re into. Very happy I done it tbh

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  • What a nonsense. Where did taking responsibility for your own actions go out of fashion??

    Don’t want your details on Facebook – don’t put them there. Simple.

    He knows he won’t win with Facebook, because the case is nonsense, so he’s going after DPD…

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  • Facebook – funny place where people have 200+ friends and nobody to talk to or have quiet Saturday pint with.

    Also I boycott any websites that require you to use facebook logon to use – so having facebook account basically. More and more of them. Can’t wait when Dublin bus droos ramblers and introduces facebook ids… mad. They can have my middle finger.

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  • I think the bigger picture here is are Facebook and/or any other companies compliant with data protection laws in Ireland/Europe. If the law says users should be able to access their stored data within 40 of a request how on earth can Ireland allow them a year. This lad shouldn’t need to be taking this case, the DPC should be ensuring compliance, it’s not as if Facebook is new.

    As for comments regarding you don’t care what they track, I remember a story a while back where a couple were stopped from entering the US because of Facebook comments, that was unreal to me. Should the US or other government/company be able to hoard all our comments/pictures. No.

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  • Just flush out cookies and cache once a week if privacy invasion is an issue for you. Otherwise be sensible about how you use Facebook; and every other site for that matter.

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  • Every organization holds such information on you .
    He should just got over it and enjoy life and as the previous poster has said just stop using the internet then he will be fine

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  • What is he doing this for? Trying to get a job?

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  • Nobody cares about privacy on Facebook. If they did then they would’ve voted on the privacy changes last night. But only 650,000 people voted out of a user base of over 1 billion.

    If you’re concerned about privacy then don’t use it, simples.

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