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German court: ‘Circumcising young boys is grievous bodily harm’

Jewish and Islamic groups have criticised the decision, describing it as an attempt to criminalise their customs.

A boy's toes curl in pain as a doctor performs circumcision on him. Germany has banned the practice when carried out on young boys on religious grounds.
A boy's toes curl in pain as a doctor performs circumcision on him. Germany has banned the practice when carried out on young boys on religious grounds.
Image: Dita Alangkara/AP

CIRCUMCISING YOUNG BOYS on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a German court has ruled, in a landmark decision which has been condemned by religious groups.

The regional court in Cologne ruled that the “fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents”, a judement that is expected to set a legal precedent.

“The religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to be circumcised,” the court added.

The case was brought against a doctor in Cologne who had circumcised a four-year-old Muslim boy on his parents’ wishes.

A few days after the operation, his parents took him to hospital as he was bleeding heavily. Prosecutors then charged the doctor with grievous bodily harm.

The doctor was acquitted by a lower court that judged he had acted within the law as the parents had given their consent. On appeal, the regional court also acquitted the doctor but for different reasons.

The regional court upheld the original charge of grievous bodily harm but also ruled that the doctor was innocent as there was too much confusion on the legal situation around circumcision.

The court came down firmly against parents’ right to have the ritual performed on young children.

“The body of the child is irreparably and permanently changed by a circumcision,” the court said. “This change contravenes the interests of the child to decide later on his religious beliefs.”

Religious outrage

The decision caused outrage in Germany’s Jewish community. The head of the Central Committee of Jews, Dieter Graumann, said the ruling was “an unprecedented and dramatic intervention in the right of religious communities to self-determination.”

The judgment was an “outrageous and insensitive act. Circumcision of newborn boys is a fixed part of the Jewish religion and has been practiced worldwide for centuries,” added Graumann. ”This religious right is respected in every country in the world.”

A key German Muslim association has also sharply criticised the ruling. ”The Cologne ruling is a serious attack on religious freedom,” the Council of the Coordination of Muslims in Germany said.

“The ruling does not take everything into account, religious practice concerning circumcision of young Muslims and Jews has been carried out over the millenia on a global level,” said Ali Kizilkaya, a spokesman of the council which counts some four million members.

The group said that Germany was “criminalising” Islamic and Jewish customs with that ruling.

Holm Putzke, a criminal law expert at the University of Passau, told the Financial Times Deutschland that the ruling was “enormously important for doctors because for the first time they have legal certainty.”

“Unlike many politicians, the court has not allowed itself to be scared off by charges of anti-Semitism or religious intolerance,” added Putzke.

The World Health Organisation has estimated that nearly one in three males 15 or over is circumcised. In the United States, the operation is often performed for hygiene reasons on infants.

Thousands of young boys are circumcised every year in Germany, especially in the country’s large Jewish and Muslim communities.

The court specified that circumcision was not illegal if carried out for medical reasons.

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Comments (55 Comments)

  • Derek 28/06/12 #

    Common sense 1: Religion 0
    If the child/teen, when old enough wants to cut his foreskin off well good luck to him, but his parents shouldn’t be the one’s deciding it for him at an earl age. Same obviously go’s for FGM. Horrible cruelty to a child who isn’t old enough to understand why it’s happening to them. Well done Germany.

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    • I wonder if all the thumbs upers also agree that a child should have the decision of whether he/she should be christened or not….

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    • That’s a good point Gordon. The idea that you have muslim/jewish/christian kids is a complete fallacy. If it were any other less established religion it would be called out for what it is…..indoctrination/brainwashing. But still let’s be fair having then end of your penis cut off is not equivalent to having a splash of water thrown over you? Both rituals are equally pointless the difference is that if one were done do you today you might be a little miffed whereas if the other were done to you you’d be charging the culprit with grievous bodily harm.

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  • The ironic thing is – the same people arguing for cutting off a child’s foreskin are the same people who claim God created them in his perfect image. Bravo Germany, now let’s see them legislate on it. A circumcision should be a decision made by the person alone, and not their parents. Unless there are some medical complications, there is no excuse to cut off a child’s foreskin.

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  • Outdated customs are what has the world f***ed up!! Just because some nut job said “do you know what we should do” hundreds of years ago doesn’t mean it’s right.

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    • I tink it should have been a choice when you grow up..cos religion really sucks..is old school and religion have no place in this day and age,common sense should be the rule of law…..

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    • I don’t think that medically circumcision has any importance.nIf it is therefor for religious reasons that this came about . This practice should be discontinued.nNature has given us all those bits for a purpose.n

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  • your not allowed dock a dogs tail anymore but your allowed have your child circumcised.

    maybe aslan was right.

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    • Does anybody know what the law is in Ireland, is it alright to butcher your own children here. If you can will this lead to circumcision tourism, can’t wait to see the tourist board adverts on that.

      On a more serious note, well done Deutschland on a brave move. These hocus-pocus traditions need to be given all the weight in law of a kleenex.

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    • FGM is illegal but MGM i.e circumcision is legal. Males getting the short end of the stick as usual. (Sorry, couldn’t resist it!)

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  • Brilliant…
    My future kids will have their own choice to choose whatever religion they want!
    And they can keep their tip

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  • Because not having a foreskin makes god love you more… idiots

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  • Well done to the German courts with their decision but I imagine that over the next while they will see a rise in botched “do it at home” circumcisions. Some people believe in these things so strongly that they would even put their childs health at risk.

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  • This is going to cause mayhem for the law-enforcement in Germany.

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  • I have just been reading some American media about it and they say it has sparked outrage. Muslim and Jewish communities protesting. This could bring them together. Imperialists and republicans had a handshake. Muslims and Jews can perform a mass windmill. Spencer Tunick can do the photos

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  • The position in Ireland is that docs will facilitate circs for religious reasons BECAUSE we would rather it was done properly than by some alternative practitioner.
    This was more or less adopted as practice after one baby lost a lot of blood post out of hospital circ.
    I’m not saying its right, or that I agree. Just clarifying the situation in Ireland.

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  • Once again, Deutschland leading the way in modern Europe. Well done.

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  • What about parents who pierce their baby/ young child’s ears as a cultural tradition – is that in the same category of invading a child’s bodily integrity or different? What about parents who cause or ignore obesity in a young child – causing “The body of the child” to be “irreparably and permanently changed” … given that these changes “contravene the interests of the child to decide later …” about health, bodily integrity, etc.
    I agree with most of whats said here – (the picture is toe curling) – but this is wider than one religious practice. It’ll be interesting to see how its applied over the next few years.

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    • Tommy C 28/06/12 #

      In my opinion, I think piercing a childs ears is wrong up till about communion age however a hole in a childs ear can heal up. You cant replace a foreskin. Its a part of the body thats gone forever once its cut off.

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  • I can see the headlines – Germany Against Further Cuts

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  • Agree it is a barbaric custom. Might lead to it being done in secret however, which is far more alarming!!!

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  • Fair play Germany, I’d say they haven’t seen this much support from Ireland in a long time. The point they’re highlighting is that ‘tradition’ and ‘culture’ don’t automatically make something right no matter how long the practise has gone on. And secondarily it highlights the issue of indoctrination of children who can’t decide for themselves (prevalent in all religions). A great start and well done for not being afraid of anti-semitic crys.

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  • A paediatric nurse told me recently that circumcision was done here for medical reasons and one or two children per week were common but now there could be up to 10 young kids every week, mostly from immigrant islamic parents who insist on having it done for religious reasons.
    Like most people I agree that this is a barbaric practice and must be stopped, lopping part of your childs willy off will NOT make them holier. Sadly though we have already seen here in Ireland how it can be driven underground where unqualified people carry out the procedure in unsanitary conditions, the result is that the child often ends up in a hospital anyway if they’re luck or if not they die. If this practice is to be outlawed then those who still carry it out must be severly punnished.

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    • Tommy C 28/06/12 #

      1 in 5 of our population are not Irish so this is going to become more common practice here. I work in a maternity unit and this week, I met 2 African ladies, one with 9 children and another with 4. Both asked about getting their sons circumcised. This is not right and migrants need to be told here that its is not acceptable in Ireland for this to happen.

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  • Excellent decision that hopefully shines some light on this absolutely barbaric custom

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  • Well done, Germany.
    Circumcising a child for purely religious motives is barbaric and needless.
    Just because a religious law is 6,000 years old does not mean that it is right.

    No child should have any part of their body butchered just because some lunatic decided that it was the right thing to do back when people still believed the Earth was flat.

    Yes, it’s hygienic, but if you bathe your child regularly then there’s nothing to worry about. It’s not like a 6 month old child is going to bang hookers bareback, so you really don’t need to worry about STDs.

    The last time Germany did something major towards Jewish people, it resulted in 6 million of them being slaughtered, so shut the hell up, Rabbi Aryeh Goldberg of the Brussels-based Rabbinical Centre of Europe. This is protecting Jewish and Muslim children from you and your ilk.

    The voting age in most modern societies is 18, so let Jewish and Muslim men elect to be circumcised when they reach that age.

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it every time some religion messes around with people; Religious law is archaic and has no place whatsoever in modern society.

    Organised religion has led to far too many wars and hindered Humanities progress for far too long. Karl Marx was right when he called religion the opiate of the masses.

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  • No comments from the people who say to be Jewish or Muslim is not a religion but a community. It’s a barbaric ritual and like all religion should be put to the person to make their own decision when they are at least 16. We shall see how many people want to act according to someone who heard voices in their head a few thousand years ago!

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  • What are the “hygiene reasons” for circumcision?

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  • Paul 28/06/12 #

    Finally some sense coming out of that country!

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  • @tommy c. I don’t mind it not being right in this country provided it is not because some think we are a catholic country

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  • I do not agree with circumcision for religious reasons but some posters are comparing it to FGM.
    Theres a massive difference!
    FGM cuts the clitoris and labia off and stitches the wounds together so theres just a hole for menstrual fluid and urine. A comparison for men would be cutting off the penis completely.

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    • Of course they differ in their severity, but that’s not what is being discussed. The problem is with the act itself, genital mutilation in the name of religion is as wrong for males as it is for females.

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    • Tommy C 28/06/12 #

      I completely agree Mick! There is no reason for female circumcision at all ever and there is not reason for male circumcision unless its for health reasons such as foreskin problems.

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  • I think circumcision is one of the oddest religious rituals but I have no strong feelings on it one way or another – it is, for whatever reason, a fundamental part of being a Jew or a Muslim so my view is to let them have it if they want it. It’s no skin off my nose.

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    • Would you say the same about female circumcision? The problem is that a child is not old enough have an opinion on religion or its customs, yet this tradition is forced upon them.

      There is no such thing as a Jewish or Christian child – they are born into the religion of their predecessors and are frightened into accepting it blindly.

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  • For all the ignorants there who want to let the children decide when they’re older, this is not the same to be circumcised when you are a few days old and when you are 18! Jewish children are circumcised when a few days old ONLY by qualified and experienced people ONLY

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    • Just because they’re only days old when mutilated by trained professionals, makes none of it a jot better. It is still mutilation. If the religion in question is any way up to muster, then the relevant boys will no doubt be persuaded of the wisdom of that course of action when they’re older, say 14 or so. Until then, let’s not be chopping bits of children.

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  • Yes yes.. Terrible custom to have totally outdated… Now wheres that apointment card for my daughter to get that abortion

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  • I do not agree with this German courts ruling. It is a direct attack on peoples personal beliefs. I am not even Jewish yet I can say there are plenty of medical evidence that actually shows the benefits of circumcision. So outlawing such a practice which is, A : part of a personal belief system and B : actually has no harmful effect,but actually has benefits ,is just not right. I am absolutely shock by this German decision. Also apart from the Jewish community being affected,the Islamic community will be very angry also. This will cause unnecessary tension.

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    • Tommy C 28/06/12 #

      There are no benefits to circumcision unless there is something wrong with the foreskin! My mate caught his in a zip so his had to be removed and another mate suffered with a foreskin that was too tight. other than that, there is no reason to cut it off.

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  • In Gospel of Luke it talks about Jesus Christs circumcision when he was 8 days old and so every man should get it done because of their own good.

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    • I find the myth perpetrated by the religions that engage in this barbaric ritual- namely that is some how more hygienic sick. Teach your boy how to wash and leave him in tact until he is old enough to choose for himself. nThe religions involved need to join the rest of us in the 21st century and abandon this barbaric ritual.

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    • There is also the story about Elijah, who on the way to Bethel is teased by a group of children for being bald. God summons two bears who maul the children, so Yilmaz what’s your point.

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    • But… But… I thought God made us in his image or did he make a mistake? Read the Bible literally (or at all) if you want but legally you can do what it says or there’d be a huge increase in the amount of deaths in the country

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