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Government to block Bill allowing TDs to scrutinise council spending

The government says proposals by Fianna Fail’s John McGuinness would hamper the government’s own plan for reforms.

Fianna Fail's John McGuinness appealed for a free vote on his legislation, which is set to be blocked by the government in a vote next Tuesday.
Fianna Fail's John McGuinness appealed for a free vote on his legislation, which is set to be blocked by the government in a vote next Tuesday.

THE GOVERNMENT is to block legislation from the chairman of the Public Accounts Committee giving it greater power to scrutinise the spending of Ireland’s local authorities.

Legislation being discussed in the Dáil today, being put forward by Fianna Fáil TD John McGuinness, proposed to bring local councils under the remit of the Comptroller and Auditor General, who in turn answers to the Dáil committee.

The Bill will be blocked by the government parties, however, who said the legislation would clash with its own broader plan for the reform of local governments and improving public services.

McGuinness had argued that his Bill was “exactly the sort of Bill which should be put to a free vote”, arguing that because the Public Accounts Committee did not have legal authority over council spending, it was “regularly treated with barely-concealed annoyance” when investigating council spending.

The Carlow-Kilkenny TD said matters like spending on the planned incinerator at Poolbeg, council purchases of land which was not going to waste, or court rulings which left councils with major bills for damages, were currently beyond the scrutiny of the PAC.

McGuinness said his proposals would not jeopardise the constitutional independence of local government, but insisted that the Dáil must have mechanisms to account for cash which was itself released to councils following the Dáil’s own approval.

‘Not acceptable’

The legislation was supported by Sinn Féin and the technical group, but housing minister Jan O’Sullivan told the Dáil that the legislation – though welcomed – would be blocked in a vote next week.

Though the government supported the underlying principle of the Bill in ensuring greater scrutiny of public money, she said, passing it would mean the government’s own plans for governmental reform could be curtailed.

Extending the Comptroller and Auditor General’s mandate to local authorities, “without regard to the overall framework of external audit, is not acceptable and would not contribute to an economic, efficient or effective external audit process,” O’Sullivan said.

The Public Accounts Committee is traditionally chaired by a member of the opposition, in an effort to ensure balanced scrutiny of public spending. €4.45 billion was distributed to local councils by the Oireachtas in 2010.

McGuinness’s Bill had been timed to coincide with a vacancy in the Comptroller and Auditor General’s office, following the retirement of John Buckley earlier this year. The C&AG’s office has a full-time staff of around 140.

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Comments (21 Comments)

  • “Jan O’Sullivan told the Dáil that the legislation – though welcomed – would be blocked in a vote next week.”

    Utterly ludicrous! They welcome the Bill but won’t vote for it?! This is the third time in recent wks have rejected a Bill on the grounds that, & ONLY on the grounds that, they didn’t come up with it first!
    Staggeringly bad way to do business.

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  • Thin edge of the wedge there.
    They (Government and Council) should be made to account to the Public for all Public expenditure, all their expenses.
    If they wont, then why not??
    Theyre the appalling and no one is challenging them. A bucket with a hole in it.

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  • Are they just starting to do this now? What a joke.

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  • i understand the above 2 comments and agree with them , but its also a bit rich that the present government are letting the Germans see our budget before we do , i think that the dail committee should have some oversight over the councils , as their is an awful lot of waste

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  • what is wrong with oversight ? it is our money after all good idea , long overdue

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    • Fagan's 11/05/12 #

      There is an element here of “Fox proposes greater oversight and better safety measures for hen house”.

      What’s not to love about that idea, but you have to suspect ulterior motives.

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  • These are the same councils that the household charge is supposed to be going to. No oversight=no accountability.ac

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  • John mcGuinness has never been one to toe the party line .he was the one that went on the late late and said that the then Taoseach should step down .

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  • Carry ón corrupting, seems to be the message from the present government.
    This legislation is here and now, control and transparency, over 4-4.5 billion euro of taxpayers money. Fine Gael / labour is saying no to this control because they have plans for something else sometime in the future. Legislation can be repealed in the future if something better is available. Fact remains the present government is saying no to transparency and control.
    Why not let local councils raise their own taxes, that would give the local people who elect them control over how the money was spent.

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  • Isn’t it a bit rich coming from FF! The same shower of bastards that squandered billions when they were in power! It’s a damn pity we didn’t have someone overseeing some of the crazy (verging on corrupt) spending decisions they made during their 14 years in power!

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    • I have to agree. The bill sounds like it is promising but it also sounds like a way of limiting the scope of reform in local Govt. and tying up oversight in to just one committee,one that has enough on its plate as is, where things would be overlooked and lost in all the detail. A rear guard action to give direction to reforms that suit themselves.

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    • To be fair to John McGuinness his integrity and conviction made him stand out like a black sheep in the last government and cost him his junior ministers post.
      He is one of a very small number of politicans who has pointed out the endemic problems in the civil service and local government and has being calling for reform for a long time now.
      He is the only FFer of this or the last Dail whose opinion I would respect.

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    • Have looked at your profile there Rodrigo. I don’t think you really exist. And your point is typical of the meaningless trolling that is beginning to ruin a really excellent website.

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    • I agree with you in relation to FF however, in an effort to be fair John McGuinness was the only FFer to highlight the short comings of the last government. He went on the Late Late Show and excoriated Brian Cowan & his fellow Cabnet members whilst they were still in power. He also had some very harsh criticisms for the local councils. This action took a fair bit of moral courage. As for FF, some of them should be behind bars.

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  • Only (verging on corrupt)

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  • In an ideal world the councils wouldn’t need oversight and we’d be able to trust our councillors to spend the money properly.

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  • I’d block anything coming from
    John mcguinness

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  • I wouldn’t look to any member of fianna fail for ‘ideas’ on dealing with transparency!

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