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More than €166m in allowances paid to HSE staff last year

HSE representatives appearing before the Public Accounts Commitee said most allowances are paid to frontline service provision staff.

Director General of the HSE Tony O'Brien
Director General of the HSE Tony O'Brien

THE TOTAL COST of allowances paid to staff in the health sector was over €166 million in 2011, according to figures put before the Public Accounts Committee this afternoon.

Appearing before the Committee, Director General of the HSE Tony O’Brien said this amounted to 2.61 per cent of the total HSE pay bill. Of the total amount, €86.9 million was spent on allowances paid to nursing staff with €36.3 million paid to care and support staff and €29.3 million paid to medical or dental staff.

He said an estimated total of 36,887 staff in the HSE are in receipt of an allowance with 41 allowances identified in total. Some 31 of these are legacy allowances predating the year 2000 and some date back as far as the 1970s.

The HSE Director General said many of these allowances were introduced when there was a severe lack of nurses in Ireland or to recognise the nursing staff working in specialised areas.

Barry O’Brien, National Director of HR at the HSE said the majority of allowances are paid to frontline service provision staff.

Employment cut

Barry O’Brien said it has been clearly indicated that the department may be given a target reduction of over 6,000 staff by the end of 2014.

Tony O’Brien said the HSE is in the process of consultation with the main union concerned to ensure targets are consistent with the Croke Park Agreement.

It was revealed that out sourcing-payroll was one of the options being considered as Barry O’Brien said it would be better to move current staff to the frontline where they are needed.

He said the executive is a long ways into the review and he now expects it to be “concluded very shortly”.

Both Fine Gael TD Simon Harris and Sinn Féin TD Mary Lou McDonald queried allowances that are paid to high earning staff with McDonald saying from the point of view of the tax payers some of the consultants in receipt of allowances “earn very,very high salaries”.

The HSE representatives agreed to supply more detailed figures to the committee with a breakdown of allowances and pay grades.

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Comments (23 Comments)

  • I’m a junior doctor NcHd. what allowances? didn’t see anything like that in my paycheck so please be clear about who you are saying get allowances. Oh by the way I’m not paid for all the hours I work. But that’s okay, I’m used to getting the short end of the stick in the name of patient well being. that’s what they use to cut our pays. And you wonder why there are shortages. answer, all your own Irish doctors are going to Australia and new Zealand where they are treated as people not mere commodities

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    • Massive respect to you,i believe no one is trageting you or other frontline staff in their comments.
      As a citizen i wish to thank you for your hardwork now and in the future.Take care.

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    • My wife is a nurse and doesn’t get any allowances. ??

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    • Monkbeam 09/11/12 #

      @ hsianloon,
      How much are you paying to become a qualified doctor? Once qualified, what is stopping you jumping ship, with your qualifications paid by the tax-payer.
      I feel so sorry for you, working a few extra hours! HOW MUCH does med school cost in the U.S.A?
      Fair play to you, you have the the H.S.C sense of entitlement, and your not even qualified yet!

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  • €166 million spent on healthcare staff? That’s a disgrace. We could have had over 300 extra bankers for that money.

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  • Round two of Private Sector V Public Sector. Seats, and action.

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  • Holy crap…anyone fancy ripping up the script and starting this country all over again…maybe a bit like some 40 years ago,when people actually met each other,were genuine,didn’t want to rip each other off, went to work for a pay cheque not a career,bought a modest house to live in not as investment,and of course we weren’t all in a hurry towards impending stress and heart attacks……but jeez listen to me ranting on,must rush and get my full 5 hours kip before I start all over again tomorrow…….

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  • Health Service Executive..Executive gravy train for Executives who do nout only wander around being Executives.

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  • When you consider over 100k employee it ain’t that much 166million. People are such fools they always biting the carrot and fighting over how much people are getting. In terms of pay etc we are on a par with the rest of the devolped world. Spin doctors are laughing there ass off at how easy it is to focus attention away from govt.

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  • Money that could be spent on looking after kids in state care ..,.,..

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  • Because if you work in the private sector, unions mentioned in your post will take your money, then tell you that their hands are tied, when the company you work for decides to close its Irish operation, even though said operation is making profit. Think yourself lucky that Ireland has such generous statutory redundancy law, the local SIPTU branch secretary told our workforce!

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    • Hmm… that’s funny, my experience of the private sector union where i used to work were asked to trawl through their files for previous agreements in other companies where they worked a similar shift to us.

      They found a few, one practically the same as us and that made the company immediately raise our shift allowance higher.
      At the time, there was a tax break and a partnership agreement which all enhanced our wage but the workforce where not so naive as to allow the “convenient” timing and the positive effects of those on our wage to cloud that they were still trying to ignore what it was we were actually asking for (and proved that we deserved).

      The union continued to support and within a few months we successfully got our shift allowance to where it should be including backdating to when we initiated the claim.

      So, unions do actually do work in the private sector.

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  • Hope articles such as this never detracts from the great work done by nursing staff. There amazing and work their socks off. It’s there bosses and paper pushers that destroy the image of the hse.

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  • If you look at the figures, you’ll probably find that for every overworked and underpaid frontline nurse or doctor, there’s two or three underworked and overpaid admin workers on a 9 to 5 with a state pension, this is what needs to go, we need to get rid of the pen pushers and get more frontline staff who provide such invaluable care to us all.

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  • To be fair many administrative staff start on a fairly basic wage and take a lot of paperwork and phone calls away from frontline staff dealing with clinical issues. I worked in one hospital where I could spend up to three hours a day answering phonecalls about outpatient appointments when I had no access to the appointments booking system which frustrated both the patient enquiring and myself. Some admin staff are invaluable and under appreciated.

    Allowances are often used as an incentive for further training in many clinical areas e.g. Nursing. Staff often have to pay for their own upskilling and with a rigid pay scale there’s no opportunity to recover this investment. Improved training opportunities and improved conditions upon basic may be an suggestion but the cost of implementing such in a slow moving monster like the HSE would probably cost the taxpayer more than the allowances in the first place.

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  • Fire the lot of them and replace them with journalists.

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  • It works out at:
    Per person €4337.57 each, or, €83.41 per week
    After 20% tax, PRSI @ 4%, Universal Social Charge @ 7%, pension @6.5%, pension levy @ 7.5% =45%
    On average about €45.88 per week.
    After 41% tax, PRSI @ 4%, Universal Social Charge @ 7%, pension @6.5 %, pension levy @ 7.5% =66%
    On average about €28.36 per week.

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