Snark what does that mean you have been reading too many comics . We have seen what they have achieved, it’s huge bills for policing, the world still turns and will somebody pays and it doesnt matter whether it’s communism or democracy and every thing in between the people still pay. Thats why the Soviet Union lost the cold war and why China could be seen to be winning the peace. Its all cold hard cash, It’s about time you guys realise it beautiful in absract but put humans in there and it all changes

maybe we dont think thats the way to go, what have the protests in the US achieved except cause a huge bill to be paid by the tax payer like wise in Greece all they achieve is to push the bill higher, increase cost to the state ie the tax payer also its not an ” Arab Spring” we live in a democracy we can vote out a government as we have done before and will do again, most of the protestors look familiar from previous protests people who turn up for any placard.

joey baby, would love to hear what you think the way to go is?

Ciaran the people who are posting negative comments or disliking positive posts/activities are the weak minded individuals among us. The people who will remain slaves or perhaps cannot comprehend life without been a tool in the corporate box. Brainwashed into believing life is all hunky dory! I feel sorry for them in a way. It’s up to the rest to fight for their rights too.

Joe maher sounds like he’s happy to just keep bending over…

I dont know all the answers Joseph but know costing me more money by people who from past experience that I’m bank rolling or somebody is, isnt solving the problem. They go around protesting the “Basness” of the state but dfeny any paet of it.
Robert how do you know I’m weak minded what crireia do you use, it is that I don’t agree with you, strange you want Democracy or so you claim but what you really mean is that peolpe who don’t agree with you don’t deserve a vote or are some how less intellectual than you. We live in a Democracy so ther fore accept what that means

The unions are relatively content with the deal they got, so no major protests.

Ah Neil, still sticking with 100 over privileged students on wall street??

Most people realise that other than protest votes all we would be doing is increasing the cost to us this is just a stupid arguement if the greek government went along with the opinion of the people protesting all that would happen is the country would no longer get money so instead of people gettingh rerduced wages is that ALL SERVICES (think about it) would stop (only for a while I will admit but how long is a while on life support) then a new order will bring about a leaher more efficrnt system (think soviet Russia) if this is the spring you want good luck I know I don’t but just remember Trotsky he got what he wanted

I have no issue with protesting, but their demands are ridiculous and it makes the protest in ireland farcical.

you say “their demands”, tell me who are “they”?
as for making protest in ireland farcical? are u in ur right mind? what protest in ireland? where?
i see none, none whatsoever.
i am relieved that there is now some sort of protest.

the greatest theft of the irish people has occurred, followed by the beginnings of new austerity and the loss of sovereignty, and yet you think this protest is farcical?????
farcical is to think that we still have a country…

@ Joseph, to answer your first 2 questions, please read the article. Of course I should have said “They’re” however.

I’m going to just take a step back for a minute and say when I know more about the purpose of this protest maybe I’ll get behind it, but from the article it just seems to have a fairly flimsy footing at the moment. I’d like to here more about their solutions to getting the demands and how exactly “lifting the debt” would work? amongst the other demands they have. Personally I would like to see a change to the limited liability laws, increase in powers to to corporate enforcement, and laws ensuring companies set aside appropriate amounts as buffer to deal with tumultuous times in the future proportional to profits earned. Not applicable to SME’s. That or some similar form of regulation which ensures company’s do not over leverage their financial positions………thats just my tuppence

@David – I don’t agree with mist of your posts here, but that last long one us as near perfect: Most of us have differing demands and indeed needs and we want to talk about them just like you did. The #occupy movement isn’t really about specific demands, more so people are talking, airing views, trying to start an international conversation that we hope will go further than just a few days protest. Some one above said that gas resource protesters are hijacking the movement but thats missing the point. It can handle all manner of views and demands precisely because it is open ended and will develop over time in god knows what ways. I know that sounds mad fluffy, but there it is. Everyone seems to agree the place is fucked, now let’s actually discuss what to do beyond an election every five years.

sorry but years of communism in the Soviet Uniuon didn’t break it and both Cuba and China have given into it so exactly where is “the hegemony of the free market ” going to be broken for crying out loud do people not read history are the lessons not going to be learned. Workers rights are now inbeded in legislation other ideas, rights can be put there too, if we work through the democratic process if we get involved. Sitting on our asses blocking people just wont work, all you will do is push people into entrenched postions particularly if you quote out of date political opinions.If you feel you have support and and an answer A REAL answer then form a political party , objecting to everyyhing is not going to work

to qualify what I said: 30 years of Milton Friedman inspired Reganomics have allowed the deregulated financial market too much power and the result of this is the current global crisis. we need more regulation. we need to break the banks that are too big to fail into smaller banks, or ringfence like the UK are planning. we also need to tax the rich. I’m not advocating communism at all. it is a discredited system, much like Reaganomics in that respect imo.

What’s a mongo. Is it slang for being down syndrome?

Intelligent enough running down those of who disagree with you just doesnt help if thats what you want then start sizing up the size of yopu Masters versus someonr else or are you trying to say those who dont have a degree sren’t asw smart as those that do you cant guage someone’s intellictuabilitty by your unknown level. Where are this tiny elite, how do they oppress us, how do you know so much more than others. By the way even tough they hvnen’t noticed it yet you have denegated all your supporters becauseyou wer getting more thumbs up, than thumkbs down.

True enough, David.

Damn missed it. Who got voted out.

Good to see one more might be wiping the sleep from your eyes. Are you beginning to realise you’re never gonta reach the carrot the 1% has been dangling while their breaking your back. Welcome!

Their should read they’re. Hate lazy spelling.

think you need to go back to your drawing board and think outside the box,

Just to be clear I hate the situation we’re in. But these protesters saying stuff that would make it worse/or are not true doesn’t help. They are currently building a 10 billion euro gas processing terminal in Norway, that’s because they have gas and oil. We have some numbers made up and so far no oil ever extracted in the history of this state and no gas from Corrib. Does the government have the expertise or the billions it would take to *hopefully* find oil/gas ourselves? The simple answer is no on both counts. So rather than dislike my post maybe you’ll show me how it’s incorrect.

I didn’t elect the FF government. I don’t think I ever voted FF in my life (unless it was number 36 on the ballot paper or something like that). So by my reckoning, I have no moral responsibility for the bank guarantee.

I didn’t either but we as a nation still elected them with the same give-away policies three times in a row. We as a nation (up until this last election) have never punished politicians for being corrupt. Worse they have topped the polls afterwards. The rot runs deep.

sorry Paulthts how democracy works you don’t always get your way if you did it would be a dictatorship

gary our politicians couldnt find the gas from their own arses!

By UAL I presume you mean the ULA, I am a member and I have just left the protest after being there all day, I would have liked to start all week but I have commitments.
I also saw a few other faces I recognised from the ULA conference during the summer.
I understand your discontent with ff, fg and labour, but you should not lump ULA in the same bracket.
The only way the 1% can continue to exploit the 99% is through keeping us divided.
The only way they can keep down the people who will fight back is to keep us divided, we have far more in common than we have differences, and we have the exact same general goal.
Please do not assist the 1% in their efforts to divide us.

Saying that people are trolls because they don’t agree with you will do nothing to help your cause!

Nice one package averyone into neat groupings (presumably so they can be rounded up and shoot come the revoulyion) not a card carrying memeber of any of these groupings or af any grouping have a mind of my ow,n just being well read have actually read books by the way not just being told whats in them and also read the follow up history. Not disinterested JUST want to hear something sensible and workable, probably not a term your used too.

Spooky.

You’re not Anonymous, you’re Robert Gaynor.

lol random, massive fail on your part for not understanding what Anonymous stands for, it’s not about me trying to remain Anonymous here. Maybe I should have included more smiley faces at the end of the classic Anonymous statement.

The sands of time will recount your quest favorably Robert.

@Random, How do you know he’s Robert Gaynor?

Lighten up you n00bs, it was a joke.

does it really matter cormac?

@joseph.. well it kind of would matter if they’re trying to get their message across. if they can’t have a clear message about where their protesting…then i’d hardly have any confidence in them with their list of demands.

redzer, centra bank plaza is on dame street, and dame st ain’t big.
da bird flanagan was just tryin to a langer, and in that he has succeeded IMO

@joseph… fair enough

We dont Vote on issues, we vote for politicians who are serveing the interests of the top 1%. Thats not REal Democracy

People are waking up. But fear is rife. Feel the fear and tell them to feck off I say.

General ripper relax will you. If you feel we’re been poisoned drink bottled water.

hey cormy, you were worried about yer carbon footprint earlier, why not do the planet a wee favour and turn your computer off for a while

You know there’s nothing like the use of the words ‘elites’, ‘cabal’, ‘sheeple’ and ‘Rothschild’s’ to make me zone out in a flash. We need a does of reality not a does of fiction thanks.

dammit dose even not does :)

Sharon, after "I have read some of the comments here", everything else you said was garbage. :)

That’s what they said about #occupywallstreet but there were 300,000 people on the streets of NY yesterday

usual suspects commenting on the usual suspects.

tho i think u may be a bit off the mark on this occasion.
i am none of your ‘usual suspects’, and i suspect that there are 10s of thousands of
severely pissed off people in this country who feel the same.

smithan_irl, a question for u, are u pissed off with what has been done to this country?

Every aspect of your comment is inaccurate!
You have encapsulated so much inaccuracy into such a short sentence, poets everywhere will be jealous.

WOW

So, just to clarify, the two respondents to my comment, you’re categorically denying you’re sympathisers/members of leftist parties? Sure..

Smithan,

I will clarify your inaccuracy for you.

The protesters at dame street on saturday were not the “usual suspects”, there was no official Sinn Fein participation and I would be surprised if any of the people there were sinn fein members. the same goes for people before profit. the people there have not cleared off when ot started to rain today and will not clear off when it rains for the rest of the week, Their numbers will only grow (expect a huge surge in numbers on saturday).

As for your latest comment:
No i do not “categorically deny being a member/sympathiser of leftist parties”.
I posted nothing to even suggest that, did you imagine that i did?

Dont be so thick,. So what protest at night time? I suppose you were wrapped up in your nice bed with your warmth. These people are doing us a service , I joined them yesterday and believe they are doing more than you or I or anyone will ever do. Next time your mortgage shoots up and you cant afford a pair of clean jocks think about how you sold your soul to the banks…..

out of curiosity pa, what do u know about the shell to sea campaigners?

Educate yourself on the gas off the west coast and the circumstances surrounding its giveaway.

So what if some of us are on the dole. You’ll find that quite a few people are these days. That said, I’m a care assistant. I was there with a courier, a tax paying tattoo artist and a college prof. Working or not, we are allowed to be pissed off about economic and social policy. I’d suggest you go for the ball, not the man.

too busy finding new ways to start businesses……..ha ha ha
thanks for the good laugh jackass

The objectives of this protest were spelled out clearly in the article.
They are not the sort of objectives that are achieved in one days protest, or even 1 year, but they are achievable and commendable.
It will take many more protests and other political actions, but it is essential that these objectives are achieved.
Good luck with your business, I hope you come up with something which enables you to make a good living while contributing to the general wellbeing of society.

people who protest are undemocratic?? perhaps u need to RE-THINK that one

We had a democratic election – TRUE.
Which list of demands are you referring to? the ones I see appear well above board and acceptable in a democratic country such as Ireland.

Where is our Government? The only people I see in control of our country is foreign powers. They make the decisions, not Enda or Eamon! Don’t be fooled from what you read in the mainstream media. After all they are controlled and run by corporate entities feeding you what is needed for them to remain in full control without any negative action taken.

Someone’s been reading Jim Corr’s website!

Someone’s mind is polluted, the only thing I know about Jim Corr is he played the violin, or was it the guitar with his sisters? Nah his main idea from what I remember from the late late show was about September 11th…This protest is on another level altogether…But seeing as you went completely off the subject and are so completely uninformed/uneducated with your opinions about the real true society that is around you maybe you can answer the following question accurately… At the cinema which arm rest is yours?

There’s no-one as good at the blame game as the 1 %. And the 99% pay the price

Get in to the 1% and you won’t have to pay. Problem solved!

I don’t want to. I couldn’t live with myself if I was. I just want to make a decent living. But I think everyone has that right.

Go read a book about politics for once mate, public fund used to bail out private institutions is not socialism!

William,
That is not socialism, it is the opposite of socialism and have been called reverse socialism by some. Maybe that is the source of your confusion