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Mortgage defaults ‘could cost banks up to €10bn’ – FF

Michael McGrath believes the ‘worst case scenario’ that went into the stress tests is now a reality – and it’s going to get worse.

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FIANNA FÁIL HAS WARNED that the number of mortgage holders falling into arrears has begun to accelerate at a higher rate than had been anticipated – and that banks could have to foot a bill of €10bn for a wholesale debt forgiveness scheme.

The party’s finance spokesman Michael McGrath today said that the ‘worst case scenario’ envisaged under the last round of stress tests, published at the end of March, envisaged that around 10 per cent of mortgage holders would default in some way.

That figure had been seen as the worst case scenario, McGrath said, but statistics published in the last week showed that the number of people in arrears was beginning to creep towards that number.

The Central Bank’s figures showed that one in 14 mortgage holders were in arrears of 90 days or more, while Permanent TSB, one of the country’s larger mortgage lenders, said 8.8 per cent of its customers were in similar difficulty.

“We’re moving towards the direction of the worst-case scenario… the trend is clear that the picture is deteriorating, and nobody knows where it’s going to end,” McGrath said.

While McGrath said it was too early to predict on whether the banks would need additional capitalisation beyond the €10bn allowed for in the stress tests, the prospect could not be ruled out, particularly with a series of harsh budgets still to be delivered.

With unemployment, the ECB interest rates which will has to be passed on, it’s inevitable that there will be further increases in the levels of arrears.

McGrath called on the government to prioritise the creation of standardised criteria to be used by banks when dealing with individual borrowers, after Central Bank governor Patrick Honohan confirmed on Friday that no such code currently exists.

“Patrick Honohan said some level of debt forgiveness was happening, but my understanding is that it’s in a relatively small number of cases [...] without any criteria or guidance from the Central Bank.

“If it’s happening, we need to ensure it’s done in a consistent way which is fair to all borrowers… having different banks with different approaches isn’t satisfactory. The Central Bank needs to get a handle on it.”

Fianna Fáil introduced a Family Home Bill to the Seanad on its last sitting on July 27, which would have barred the repossession of family homes unless it had been proven that a family was completely unwilling or unable to keep up repayments.

The bill was blocked by Fine Gael and Labour, who said it was not required at the time. McGrath said the party would continue to try and have the bill enacted.

Read: Relief for mortgage holders? Analysts reckon ECB will cut interest rates

More: Central Bank to review how banks handle ‘distressed’ mortgage holders

Plus: Michael Noonan: “No magic bullet” for mortgage debt relief

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Comments (34 Comments)

  • Minister Noonan we need a fast track where SME and individuals can restructure existing mortgages – our gearing is acceptable but our income is down – we need to extend the life of the loans to reduce our repayments – the Banks are NOT listening – must we sink deeper into the quick sand !

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  • Given this is a FF figure I guess we should prepare for 80bn then.

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    • Agreed. This “yoke”was complaining about the wages and bonuses structures of NAM in June, even though it was his Govt. that was behind it, and he voted to back it then, without reservation.

      The Irony of a FF’er pretending to give a toss about the plight of Irish homeowners or citizens. Where were you in 2008,2009,2010, at the trough and not giving one toss what happened to Ireland.

      So in summary, he is a shameless hypocrite, a brass neck, a poor track record and a questionable judgement- Are we looking at the next FF leader here.

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  • What do they expect? They raise taxes, slap levy after levy on us. Gas, esb, interest rates etc increase. Whatever savings folk had, have been long spent. And that’s those who are still in employment. Something has to give. For many, it’s mortgage repayments. The government are so far removed from reality. They really have no idea that people are struggling and quite literally do not have the money.

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  • Fully agree with you Adam!!!!! Amazes me how people are so hot and bothered about Joe and Jenny Soap being bailed out, yet, stayed fairly calm when the Big Boys were!!!

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  • Small beer compared to debts shunted onto the taxpayer courtesy of the Cowen-Lenihan bank guarantee and, of course, NAMA.

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  • Fianna FAILure! Why can’t these cretinous gobshites just go away, find a deep cave somewhere and just die. They are like putrefying corpse slowly decomposing and every now and again they release a load of smelly hot gas to poison the fresh air and remind people that they are still around infesting the land with their toxic brand and irrelevant whining. GO AWAY!

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  • Dars K 04/09/11 #

    Who even listens to FF anymore??

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  • Ask the bank to validate any alleged debt and see what happens. People have no need to fear these crooks.

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    • john you’re reading crap on the internet. a signed loan offer is validation of debt.

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    • @John Jacob – Well considering this is a website, yes I am. However, with regard to my comment, you don’t know what I’m doing or not doing so don’t make assumptions. That’s what has our country in the mess it’s in right now. You’re wrong if you think that’s enough to lawfully validate a debt. It’s a little more complicated than that. Doing some internet reading yourself (or any kind of thorough examination of contract law and legalese) might actually help you dispel some of your misconceptions.

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  • A Fianna Fail finance spokesman is as much use as a Vatican child protection spokesman.

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  • True, governments can reduce the rate of interest in the short run. They can issue additional paper money. They can open the way to credit expansion by the banks. They can thus create an artificial boom and the appearance of prosperity. But such a boom is bound to collapse soon or late and to bring about a depression. -Ludwig von Mises (Omnipotent Government, 1944)

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  • How are they even still given air time? FF are a bunch of damn morons and need to be confined to history – quickly!

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  • If only he were more forward looking with his risk assessment and calculations when he was in government… His present pseudo concern is nothing but a farce and a vain attempt to keep in the light. The man is, and always will be, nothing but a smug, smiling idiot.

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  • Pissholes in the snow.

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  • Michael McGrath, get stuffed. No one cares what you have to say. This mess is your fault.

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  • Bell End.

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  • F..K FIANNA FAIL! F..K THE BANKS! GOVERNMENT WAKE UP SMELL COFFEE = REALITY! THE TIDE IS TURNING….IT’S THE PEOPLES TURN NOW! STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!

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  • So the banks have a load to carry, was it not there stupidity with "our" money and pension funds that led to this…….sorry, rot and burn I say

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  • who is this person. a pity they did not no what was going on in this country for the last 20 years i suppose mick martin did not no what was going on . i think he sat at the same table as all his mates bert brian an that thing from kildare

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  • Correction.. Your man in the GOONIES wasn’t as bad looking as this geek!

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  • We need some sort of process to ensure that people who did not make wild assumptions about their ability to pay a reasonable mortgage, but who ran into difficulty due to unexpected unemployment and/or paycuts, are supported to get back on track. Public service workers basically, as they were most able to reasonably predict future income. Oh and we will need public service workers to design and implement the system as well.

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  • irishmen and irish women in the name of god how have we come to this, and in the name of the dead generations from which she recieved her old tradition of nationhood, ireland through our new masters the ecb summons her children to her financial sovereign funeral, having disorganised and drained her manhood and treasury through secret organations such as the galway tent gang and the golden circle and her open organised lunacy like the anglo bailout, having paitently perfected her own demise, havinh resolutely waited for the right moment to reveal itself fully incompatent, the government now siezes that moment and, watched scornfully by the children she has exiled to austrailia through mass unemployment and looked on in disbelief by gallent allies in europe, but relying In the first on its own weakness, the government strikes a deal in full confidence of national humilition, in every generation the irish people have asserted their rights to national freedom and sovernity, six times during the last 394 years the have asserted it too arms. standing down that fundamental right and again deserting it with arms tied behind our backs in the face of the wod, we hereby proclaim the irish republic as a sovereign state is no more, and we pledge our lives and the lives of our children to the cause of serving its new pay masters, outsourcing its freedom, destroying its welfare benefits,and of its exaltation among nations. The ECB Is entitled too, and hereby claims, the allegiance of every irishman woman and child(henceforth to be known as euro drones). the ECB guarantess religous and cival liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to.all its people, but only as long as the eurodrones pay the price for such luxuries via crippling tolls and declares its resolve to auction off the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and all its parts, perishing all the aspirations of the children of the nation equally and indicative of the differences carefully fostered by a government of aliens which have promoted the interests of a tiny minority of speculators over the vast majority of woring people in the past. Until our debt repayments have brought the opportune moment for the re-establishment of a permanent representive of the whole people of ireland and electd by the sufferges of all her men and women the Provisional ECB governmment hereby constituted, will administer and savage the cival service and financial affairs of the republic in mis trust for the people.

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  • See the ex prime minister of Iceland is on trial today for his part in the destruction of their economy, if only the Irish had the balls and the decency to do the same. Ahern and Cowan in the dock would be a start. Then Drumm, Fitzpatrick and all the other greedy incompetent parasites to follow. The country demands accountability!

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  • 5 errors of the Great Depression that Obama is repeating.
    http://www.nysun.com/editorials/the-five-errors/87472/

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