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No decision from Fianna Fáil on abortion vote

Following an afternoon meeting, the party said it would not make a decision on legislative proposals.

FIANNA FÁIL HAS yet to decide whether to support or oppose the government’s proposed abortion legislation.

During a four-and-a-half hour meeting today, each member of the parliamentary party was given an opportunity to express their views on the newly-published heads of the Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013.

A spokesperson for the party told TheJournal.ie that the debate was “very respectful and considered”.

An agreement was reached that health spokesperson Billy Kelleher would put forward the various views of party members during the Oireachtas committee hearings on the legislation later this month.

A decision will then be taken by the party on whether to support the legislation. Earlier today, the Health Committee said they will hold three days of hearings, finishing the 21 May.

Although some reports indicate that the leadership wants to support the bill, Micheál Martin told TheJournal.ie earlier this year that the party has an issue with including the risk of suicide in any legislation for the X Case.

More: ‘Professional experts’ only to be called for hearings on abortion bill

‘We have an issue with suicidal risk in abortion legislation’ – Micheál Martin

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    Mute Begrudgy
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:36 PM

    In other words Fianna Fail waiting on the latest opinion polls regarding this legislation before making their mind up which way to go.

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    Mute FinglasAgainstTans©
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:49 PM

    Shouldn’t more TD’s do this, see what the people want and then vote that way, it stinks of democracy

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    Mute Diarmaid MacAonghusa
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:01 PM

    No they shouldn’t. People who run for election should set out their own policies and explain why they believe in them. If elected they should try to implement them. This notion that politicians should just adjust their opinions to suit the latest poll is ridiculous. (Just so we’re clear, I’m on the pro choice side)

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    Mute FinglasAgainstTans©
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:06 PM

    So then it would not matter what happens during the dail term, there would be no point in emailing a TD or having an opinion on anything. Politics isn’t written in granite.

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    Mute Jack Donohoe
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:57 PM

    What you are talking about is the founding principle of Irish Politics ,TD’s have been doing it for years and its why we have the recession

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    Mute DublinLad
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:03 PM

    This is the most vocal Fianna Fail have been on abortion in 16 years.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:56 PM

    Fianna FAIL

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    Mute Elaine Fitzpatrick
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:06 PM

    Fianna Fáil will always vote with government they may piss moan and groan about the present government and their present policies and legislations but they will vote with Government
    Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile.

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    Mute censored
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    May 3rd 2013, 12:28 AM

    Who cares? FFailure is irrelevant.

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    Mute Norman Hunter
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:40 PM

    They still haven’t figured out which side of the fence will garner the most votes.

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    Mute Reg
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:29 PM

    That’s about the nub of it with Fianna Fail. Daren’t do anything that might be seen to be unpopular.

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:43 PM

    If they sit on that fence too long…ouch!!

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    Mute Sheik Yahbouti
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:35 PM

    No decision?? Oh no, what will we do?

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    Mute Mike McLoughlin
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:30 PM

    Since when is M Martin not making a decision news !

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    Mute Enda McCabe
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    May 3rd 2013, 12:09 AM

    I’m sure he’ll find a committee that he can refer it to…

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    Mute Ryan Murphy
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:46 PM

    Micheal Martin’s influence is definitely rubbing off on them.

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    Mute Noel Hogan
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:57 PM

    If they can’t make a decision in opposition how are they going to make decisions when in Government?

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    Mute Dave keeley
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:14 PM

    In fairness this has come out of the blue… and is entirely d4 megia(sic) generated. It is entirely unfair to expect a national movement to have an opinion please come back in another 20 year’s or so…

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    Mute Stephen Browner
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    May 2nd 2013, 10:05 PM

    “For more on this scandal, we turn to America’s foremost experts on young women’s reproductive health — conservative men in their 60s.” – Stephen Colbert

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    Mute Tony Skillington
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    May 2nd 2013, 10:15 PM

    Take yet time lads….Ye’ve been ducking the issue for years. Another few weeks isn’t gonna matter

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    Mute Kevin Cooney
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:54 PM

    FF to the Gov. you’re on your own with this one lads. No FF Senator will vote in favour of abortion. The Seanad will probably vote this bill down (if it gets that far) as the Gov.s majority is too tight in the upper house for it to pass. From an FF perspective they are playing a blinder on this.

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    Mute Michael J O' Ryan
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:28 PM

    Why are people so worried about FF. FG and Lab are in power and have the decision making reins. Get over FF concentrate on the govt. this reminds me of enda commenting on FF at his recent jobs strategy. Btw it is good counsel to reserve judgement, what’s another month after 20 years. At least it’s not a u turn! Time to stop looking back – time to get on with it ffs.

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    Mute Enda Quinn
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:39 PM

    The Lionel Messi’s of political football strike again!

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:40 PM

    Two referenda!!! Sick of this politicians against the suicide clause. Build a bridge and get over it – or dive in and cook down with a nice swim!

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:41 PM

    *Cool!! Damn fiddly keyboard!

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    Mute The Green Monkey
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:34 PM

    I love long weekends, what will I do…………..

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    Mute the truth hurts
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:59 PM

    Sit on the fence so lads, no money to be made on abortion issue but lots of votes to be lost.

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    Mute Vincent Dolan
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:29 PM

    It’s not as if there’s that many of them in the parliamentary party- how hard can it be?

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    Mute Mark Hickey
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    May 2nd 2013, 10:18 PM

    Snakes

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    Mute Seamus Cleere
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:54 PM

    Glad to hear that FF are considering such a contentious issue with care, allowing all its parliamentary party to express their views. Isn’t it a pity that so called democrats are seeking dictatorship from Michael Martin. A wise decision on this issue will not be rushed.

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    Mute Jack Donohoe
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    May 2nd 2013, 9:01 PM

    Their about 20 years pondering it now

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    Mute Arbitrasure
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    May 2nd 2013, 6:56 PM

    FF is the Nation’s moral compass.

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    Mute Cillian Murphy
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:28 PM

    Sorry Arbitrasure..got to correct you on that one…FF is the nations “immoral” compass

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    Mute Brian O'Sullivan
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    May 2nd 2013, 7:49 PM

    Arbitrasure, that explains alot.

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    Mute macca
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    May 2nd 2013, 8:36 PM

    This issue is not gonna be good for women’s blood pressure! It’s gone through the doldrums so much in the last year, you would be tired of seen it day after day

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    Mute Michael O'Reilly
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    May 2nd 2013, 9:09 PM

    Who cares !!!

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    Mute Ignoreland
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    May 3rd 2013, 4:20 PM

    21 years later and FF still don’t know whether they should legislate or not.

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    Mute Kevin
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    May 3rd 2013, 8:28 AM

    Surprise surprise can’t make a decision. Now I know why I will never vote for them.

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