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Poll: Would you like to see an all Ireland soccer team?

We’d like to hear your thoughts on the establishment all Ireland soccer team – are you for or against?

Republic of Ireland's Robbie Keane and Gareth McAuley of Northern Ireland, Carling Nations Cup, 24 May 2011
Republic of Ireland's Robbie Keane and Gareth McAuley of Northern Ireland, Carling Nations Cup, 24 May 2011
Image: ©INPHO/Cathal Noonan

FINE GAEL SENATOR Catherine Noone has called for the establishment of an all Ireland soccer team, echoing the sentiment expressed by Sinn Féin at the party’s Ard Fhéis last month.

Yesterday, Noone said she believed that now was the perfect time for the issue to be considered, as the Republic of Ireland is currently preparing for the Euro 2012 campaign and because of rumours about the Republic possibly co-hosting Euro 2020. She added that players from both Northern Ireland and the Republic had “already proven that they can collaborate and thrive with an all-island rugby team”.

In May, Sinn Féin TD Sandra McLellan similarly told delegates: “Other sports have shown maturity and rationale, it’s a pity that soccer does not learn from other sports when one team represents Ireland in such sports like rugby, cricket and international rules.”

What do you think – would you like to see an all Ireland soccer team?


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  • peter 07/06/12 #

    given Irish born
    ward Irish born
    dunner Irish born
    st ledger English born
    Kelly Irish born
    whelan Irish born
    Andrews Irish born
    duff Irish born
    mcgeady Scottish born
    keane Irish born
    Doyle Irish born

    That’s the starting eleven and by my maths that’s not half.
    Cabbage comments

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  • Yes, but who would the Windsor Park bigots shout for then?

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  • It works well for the rugby, i am not sure our ranking would be much higher but it would be great to see.

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  • No way! Don’t want the loyalist hooligans at our matches causing trouble similar to the English fans!

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    • And there lies the crux of the problem. I’m pretty sure there are plenty of Norn Iron supporters who don’t want the Celtic Jerseys stirring up trouble either.

      I would love to see a united Ireland football team. Fearing what the other side MIGHT do in the event of a unification is not a reason not to go ahead with it, neither is the concern about the flag/anthem/stadium compromises that would have to be made.

      Different clientele or not, I didn’t cheer any less enthusiastically when we hammered England at Croke Park in 2007. The significance of the occasion wasn’t diluted just because we had to endure “Ireland’s Call” and wave around an IRFU flag as opposed to a tricolour, and I certainly didn’t feel any less Irish.

      People will always pick holes and find problems, it’s human nature. But sometimes you just need to press ahead and the rest will follow.

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    • Haven’t seen trouble at an English prem or national game in ten yrs or were you just being racist

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    • You probably haven’t been to many England away games then, or hung around after premiership matches!
      I was in Stuttgart in 2006 for Ireland vs Germany, a few months after England had been there in the world cup. A police man told me they had arrested about 2 Irish people out of over 10000. He also said, just a few months ago, there was a riot in the same spot by the English! Just dishing out facts here. Not being ‘discriminant’ which is the word you were looking for!

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  • While I would to like to see an all-island team, the idea of unity would be great, the reality of it happening raising a few questions. Where would home games be played? Would the Windsor Park crowd be welcoming to players from the Republic? What would the association crest to like?

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    • Fact Windsor Park can only hold 12,000 (Versus 52,000 in Aviva) kind of makes Windsor a no goer commercially In terms of Ulster Stadium, Casement or St Tiernachs with 32,000/ 36,000 be more suitable but would need GAA support.

      Logistically cant see it being huge issue in terms of crest, jersey, anthem, stadium (alternating matches etc.) as just follow rugby team lead. Its more politically and in terms of both fans support and backing would fail.

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  • It’s not s simple yes/no answer. Lot of things to take into account and work through before it could happen.

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  • Brian 07/06/12 #

    Not a hope. Too many bigots up north and plenty of them down here too it has to be said.

    But look on the bright side. As long as there’s no all Ireland team we won’t have to put with the football equivalent of Ireland’s Call.

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  • This is a question in reality that only the Unionists should decide. As an Irishman of course i’d like it. But whats the point if everyone on the Island wouldn’t be behind it. If you take away the “Northern Ireland” team and replace it with an full Island of Ireland team you then are taking history away from the Unionists. Then again i suppose we’d also be taking away the name “Republic of Ireland” Ha ha, I’ve just changed my mind mid way through my point! Hell yeah, we should have an Ireland team. Moral of my comment: I disagree with myself a lot!!

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  • No. Nordie unionists can play for the north while nordie Irish can play for us so everyone can play for who they want.

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  • I seem to remember vaguely that a Shamrock Rovers selection lost 3-4 to World Champions Brazil (pele included) in 1973. That was a game to remember, with Derek Dougan (NI) scoring at least 2. However as pointed out by many, a unitled Ireland team would mean a merger of the football associations and if football associations are anything, they are conservative and will not take kindly to any merger suggestions. The objections of Wales and Scotland to the British Olympic team are an example. Oddly enough, I do not think the sectarian divide would propose as much a stumbling block. Yes, I would like to see a united team play together again, but I am under no illusion that the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland will ever merge as one Ireland team.

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  • As far as I know both assocations would have to agree. This would be the equivilant of a turkey voting for christmas for one of the associations. Will never happen.

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  • Can we move July 12 to March 17 or visa versa?

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  • as long as they play the Irish national anthem and not that “Irelands call” nonsense then i would love to see an all-Ireland football team

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  • Would be great to see – if we ever aspire to have a united Ireland we have to want a united Ireland team.

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  • We HAVE an all-island soccer team. It’s called “Ireland” and anyone from the island is eligible to play on it.

    This isn’t about *giving* anything to anybody, it’s about *taking away* the Northern Ireland team from those who support it.

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  • So the general concensus is that we do not like Ireland’s Call. So we could combine the national anthems…..
    “God Save Fianna Fail”.

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  • Elmo 07/06/12 #

    James McLean said it himself recently, the catholic players from NI are not made to feel welcome as part of the NI team. They crowds sing God Save The Queen, they fly Union Jacks and basically are a British team.

    Ideally Northern Ireland would be allowed represent itself at everything, people would be allowed identify themselves as Northern Irish and not have to face the wrath of one side or the other by identifying themselves as Irish or British. Unfortunately this is not possible. The players and the people involved behind the scenes may have the very best of intentions to make it work but when it comes down to it the fans wouldn’t support it.

    Where would we play home games? Dublin or Belfast. Will we have to do like the Rugby team and abandon our national anthem in favour of some silly song about unity and being BFFs.

    It’s just not a feasible idea as far as I can see. Sinn Fein are just a bunch of stirrers and the other political parties should know better than to get involved in such things. The fans who go to Northern Ireland matches wouldn’t want it. If anything Sinn Fein should be asking the Northern Irish FA to sort out the problems faced by Catholic players and maybe then there wouldn’t be this issue of them coming down to play for us.

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  • Oh god !!! If we have to sit through another ‘Ireland’s Call’ before every match …. Then No.

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  • It’s not working in the LOI. Trips to Derry city Fc …. Fans stoning away busses , no police in Brandywell hiring of thugs as stewards etc. A all Ireland football team will never work unfortunately .

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  • As long as it didn’t involve substituting our national anthem!

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  • It’d be a great idea in theory, practice would require some positive discrimination and the overall level of the team would probably go down, however it’d be worth it from the long view. Bring it on. Who’d get into the Rep team from the North? Jonny Evans maybe?

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  • yes in theory but not sure how it would work. maybe the two associations should organise a friendly against another country for an Irish XI and see how people react. the finer details could be worked out if the reaction was positive

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  • Don’t know if it will ever happen for obvious political reasons and the fact that both have separate teams now unlike when the rugby team was started would make it logistically difficult but it would really strengthen the talent pool for both sides.Evans in centre defense, Steven Davis in midfield and Kyle Laverty up front would strengthen our current side to name a few.

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  • The kop 07/06/12 #

    it will never happen….. so why all this bull crap about how great it would be….things are working fine the way they are…. if it ain’t broke….

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  • Yes, it would be great to see. But unfortunately, creating a team would be far more difficult than simply voting if one would like to see it or not.

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    • Dont think creating team be that hard just pick best player in each position regardless of where from on island. Being 100% honest not too sure how many from Northern Ireland would get into Republic team.

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    • I love lamp. UUP. UDP, UDP, UUC, UKUP, PUP, and these are YOUR parties. Nothing Irish about them. If your so Irish what about your IRISH national anthem, or your IRISH flag, or your IRISH language. Slan leat, agus pog mo thoin

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  • Great timing , just before the start of Euro 2012 media shite talking begins .

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  • Yes = positive progressive forward thinking people who look for a better future for everyone. NO = no life chip on the shoulder angry sad little bigots who would embarrass his friends & family down the pub singing sad angry little football songs.

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    • So your a real black and white type of guy eh? Tbh it doesnt bother or effect me the slightest. But I don’t really see who this benefits. We’re already off to the euro’s. Players who want to play a “united” team already have chosen so. Example being Gibson etc. so the only other people are northern Irish players who prefer to represent the north which again makes the united Irish team kind of a silly idea.

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    • The best Northern Irish players are already playing for Ireland so what’s the difference?

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    • I agree with Martin, every morning I wake up and I look in the mirror and say to myself ‘You are a positive…progressive…foward thinking person’, but I also cry myself to sleep at night, because, something is missing, and it’s not an all-Ireland soccer team

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  • Yes, why not it works for Rugby

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  • Maybe if Irish football fans had spent the last 40 years or so pumping money into and supporting local Irish teams then there’d be more David Fordes and Darren Randolphs to play for Ireland and you wouldn’t need the Kevin Kilbanes and Marc Wilsons.

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  • mrnobody 07/06/12 #

    the ifa is just a sectarian club for orange men… its time for soccer to catch up with every other sport including gaa sports.. id have no problem having irelands call sung at the euros if need be

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  • 70% in favour!

    Up the 32 county Irish soccer team consisting of Protestant, Catholic and Dissenter, yeooww! ! !

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  • Wait till the Euros are over then have the debate.

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  • Can’t believe comparing it to rugby, soccer is a working class sport and there are already 2 teams.

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    • I was unaware of a social class qualification to play or support your chosen sport. I think that sort of biased thinking is what retains discrimination in a society.

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    • Elmo 07/06/12 #

      It’s true though. The kind of kids that play rugby at schools level and then go onto club and country are usually from a certain background. There’s a different kind of social status connected to rugby than there is to soccer.
      Maybe it’s not right to say soccer is “working class” but look at it from school boy level, nearly all schools will have a soccer team, rugby teams are associated with the bigger boarding schools mainly and the social culture of these schools are very different to the ones that play soccer.
      Just look at the two Irish teams if you need proof. Listen to Robbie Keane or Richard Dunne talk, then listen to Brian O’Driscoll or Rob Kearney talk. All from Dublin but all from very different social backgrounds. As are a lot of the fans of these sports, or the ones that pay money to actually go watch them anyway.

      Obviously that shouldn’t be used as an excuse for ROI not getting along with NI, but at the end of the day the Rugby situation is vastly different from the soccer one.

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    • cjb 07/06/12 #

      Kearney is from Louth. You’re right though, just because it works in rugby/cricket/golf doesn’t mean it will work in football

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    • Elmo 07/06/12 #

      You’re right, he is from Louth, my bad. But he still went to Clongowes and then onto UCD, so my general point still stands. :)

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  • Damocles 07/06/12 #

    “if it ain’t broke”, tell that to Cork City.

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  • What a dreadful idea. Just think of all the hassle there’ll be over the anthem. Even the much more ecumenical rugby fraternity struggle with that one.

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  • It’d be a wonderful opportunity for Ireland to focus on building a squad from home grown talent.

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  • Soccer is boring as fuqqqq.

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    • I am guessing you won’t be supporting Ireland during the Euro finals starting this weekend?

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    • You mean the England B team?

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    • What about an ‘I don’t care’ option. I like soccer, but all this lionisation of pro’s? Just vicarious tribalism. I’m an evolved conscious being. Give me a game in the park over 22 guys in a stadium who don’t know or care who I am.

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    • Patrick Watching N.Ireland is as boring as fuqqqq…….. Us ROI fans are respected around the world, let us keep it that way.

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    • people that dont support a football team just have no understanding of the feeling it generates, i know this for a fact as i only took an interest in my mid 20′s, really didnt know what i was missing

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    • How about an all European team, seems more apt for a people who have willingly gave away what was left of their country. The most unpatriotic apathetic nation of people inn the world. If anyone can tell me a people anywhere who are less proud and patriotic, please tell me?

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    • Looks like a lot of ill-informed, non football fans and meddling do-gooders on here today – probably office girls taking a break from gossiping….
      Besides Jonny Evans who from NI would make our team?
      Who would run the new all-ireland association? Do you think anyone from the FAI or the IFA would relinquish their highly paid jobs for a new administration?
      Would we have to ban our anthem?
      Do you think the NI players would like this as it would surely be the end of their International careers?
      What would happen the Rangers players hoping to get a game for Ireland? I bet they’d love Irish Internationals at Ibrox!
      We’ve had ROI V NI games at Windsor and the Old Lansdowne which were ticking time bombs and one or two were started by management – ie Billy Bingham!
      I’ve been in the Scotland end at Lansdowne mingling with fans and there is an unspoken rule that no one mentions The Old Firm for fear of starting something – would we have this? Ireland fans get pissed and sing Fields Of Athenry – it’s second nature for us – how would this go down? Would we ever relax with “reformed” loyalists with Linfield slogans on their tri-colour?….. (hint of sarcasm before you start)

      Seriously though – a lot of questions to be answered and a big dose of realism to be swallowed. As much as it would be good for the country and possibly the next step to a completely unified country I can’t ever see it happen and I would not like to see a day where I can’t where my tricolour with pride while singing Amhrán na bhFiann either in Lansdowne or any other world wide stadium in which the Irish fans are adored!

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    • And hurling has no rules and is violent as F… Stick with it

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    • Thumb up Paula. I was walking around Dunnes the other day, watching people buying their tricolours for Euro’12 and I couldn’t help but wonder how many of them had voted in fear or greed last week. But in this time of low national moral I am heartened to see that the majority who voted favour an all Ireland team. All is not lost. Maybe when we elect a government with a bit of courage we can have another referendum.

      I know I’ve gone off topic but I made my contribution to why I would love an all Ireland team on thread last evening. Just wanted to show a bit of solidarity to you Paula seeing as you’re getting such a hard time on the thumb front. I’ll stand beside you. :(

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  • North and south ireland are two separate entities. The people of the north owe their allegiance to the queen. We down south do not

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  • Clearly most people here no nothing about the history of soccer on this Island.The FAI and the IFA would never agree to this idea.Have a look at RTE’s recent programme green is the colour and you will understand that this will never happen.

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  • Where is the option for ‘I don’t care’

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  • Think it’s a FIFA rule rather than an Irish option…..I support both Irish teams anyway and also like Ireland’s Call a lot..

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  • peter 07/06/12 #

    In fact westwood Walters cox st ledger and mcgeady are the only players not born on this island. I am open to correction on that but its definitely not half

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  • eastsmer 07/06/12 #

    22 grown men kicking a ball around a field, a guy in the middle dressed in black blowing a whistle
    Huh – give them all a ball

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  • Fingal 07/06/12 #

    I like the idea in general but are some big complications outlined above. Also, that Paula girl is have a rip roaring time on here today. I can almost smell the paint

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  • It’s a different country so why share a football team? There should be a UK team and a ROI team, period. Fair enough England and Scotland played the first international but the fact that they still have separate federations 150 years later is a joke. Catalonia don’t get to have a team, Texas doesn’t get to have a team so why should Wales? If there is ever a united Ireland there should be a single football team, not before.

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  • I’m not saying it wouldn’t be good to have a all Ireland soccer team but Northern Ireland are 103 in the world so its hardly going to make us any better if they join us. No names come to mind that would make it on our team.

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  • Damocles 07/06/12 #

    OK … strewth as the Aussies might say. That’ll teach me to believe what people tell (because it sounds amusing).

    As the FAI has generously not updated its squad lists and profiles in 3 years I’ve done a little rootling around and got this:

    Shay Given – Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland
    Shane Long – Gortnahoe, North Tipperary, Ireland
    Keith Fahey – Dublin, Ireland
    Stephen Kelly – Dublin, Ireland
    David Forde – Galway, Ireland
    Damien Duff – Ballyboden, Ireland
    Darren O’Dea – Dublin, Ireland
    Kevin Foley – Luton, England
    Sean St. Ledger – Birmingham, England
    Darron Gibson – Derry, Northern Ireland
    Robbie Keane – Dublin, Ireland
    James McClean – Derry, Northern Ireland
    Kieran Westwood – Manchester, England
    Glenn Whelan – Dublin, Ireland
    Keith Andrews – Dublin, Ireland
    Aiden McGeady – Glasgow, Scotland
    John O’Shea – Waterford, Ireland
    Kevin Doyle – Adamstown, Ireland
    Richard Dunne – Tallaght, Dublin, Ireland
    Jonathan Walters – Moreton, Merseyside, England
    Stephen Hunt – Waterford, Ireland
    Stephen Ward – Dublin, Ireland
    Simon Cox – Reading, England

    England 5
    Scotland 1
    Northern Ireland 2
    Ireland 15

    So we have about a third from outside the republic and about a quarter from the “mainland”.

    Still that’s not so great, is it? If only the Irish people had put money into supporting their own local teams and fostered more home grown talent over the last few decades rather than shovelling it over into England. Maybe then there could be zero Scots and zero English and this homegrown talent could play at an acceptable level on home soil rather than having to up sticks and go to England. Wouldn’t that fill you with national pride?

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    • I`d like to know your definition of “mainland” in relation to Ireland.

      Going by the figures you supply, only six out of twenty three players are not Irish, so just under a quarter are not Irish born.

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  • No way!

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  • Please add ‘ couldn’t careless’ as an option so I can vote.

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  • defence and Lafferty

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  • Yes but the decision should be entirely up to the North.

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  • Hell no. Why should we do that just to keep sinn fein and all the other plonkers happy.. they’re a diff country they’re British not Irish..

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  • B7584 07/06/12 #

    Should be a ‘dont care’ option

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    • There is. And it requires a lot effort than typing it out.

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    • B7584 07/06/12 #

      Theres a DONT KNOW option, I do know, I dont care.

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    • Funny you should say that because I couldn’t care less if you care or not.

      Seeing as you have your pedantic trousers on maybe you could refrain from commenting on sections that you don’t care about. It saves a lot of effort for the people who like reading constructive or intelligent comments.

      I believe the Daily Mail comment section would be more to your taste.

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    • B7584 07/06/12 #

      Sorry i didnt realise you own the comments section. Its funny though, i offered as always my own opinion, you on the other hand are a typical ireland bandwagon jumper, you are like a LOT of other people who NEVER comment on a sports on story on here & then low and behold a day before the european championships start you’ve think you have some right to start getting smart with me.
      Ah well, i suppose you need something until the ruggers rolls around again. Dont forget your leprauchan outfit.

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  • Gerard smith. What has the national anthem got to do with northern Ireland being part of her majestys domain?. Ya dope.

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