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Column: ‘Island? Which island?’ – life as an Irish person in Japan

James Joyce? U2? Guinness? No – Halloween is the only thing that earns Ireland any kudos, writes Hannah Quinn.

Hannah Quinn

RAIN AND RECESSION aside, I usually feel quite proud to say that I’m from Ireland when I’m abroad.

I can pretty much count on a positive reaction, undoubtedly including a reference to a great grandfather hailing from Kerry and a lifelong desire to visit his home town on sheep-back, drink Guinness with the locals and have a quaint old time in general. Perhaps that’s just Americans though. (I should mention if this stereotype offends you, this article is riddled with them. Perhaps best to look away now.)

In Japan, however, to mention Ireland is to induce great confusion.

Island? Which island? Ahh, Iceland! No?

Oh. Hmm, how to explain:

You know England and Wales? Not Wales? Okay, well, to the west of England. No, not America – between the two, really. Oh you didn’t know it existed? It does, I swear!

Cue a doubtful expression and me reeling off a list of things Ireland is famous for, none of which ring a bell. I soon realised that the general geographic knowledge of the Japanese is not the best, especially in Nagoya, where I was based teaching English for the last three months. Nagoya is less a cosmopolitan, happening city and more a town to pass through on your way to somewhere more interesting, trying not to stray more than a couple of metres from the train station if possible.

The Japanese relationship with the so-called Western world is an interesting one. On one hand, they appear desperate to be Americanised. Baseball is huge – every Sunday, parks are full of local teams practising or playing against each other, and there are baseball domes in all major cities.

Western-style weddings have overtaken traditional Shinto ceremonies in popularity for Japanese couples, complete with fake churches and fake priests or ministers to make it feel like an authentic Christian experience – despite less than 1 per cent of the population being of Christian faith. Obviously, Disney is huge, along with Harry Potter, Twilight and pretty much any other animated or fantasy film Hollywood throws over the Pacific. McDonalds, Gap, Old Navy, KFC, Converse and various other American brands are commonplace.

Halloween

Halloween decorations in shops and on the street easily outnumber what we bother with in Ireland, but none of the traditions really follow, apart from fancy dress parties in bars and nightclubs. Christmas is strangely more of a Valentines-type holiday, aimed at couples.  Nonetheless, on the whole, both are a source of general excitement.  In fact, Halloween was the one thing that earned me any respect for being Irish.

That mine was the country that had produced fine writers like Oscar Wilde or James Joyce, musicians like U2, great traditions like Irish dancing or world-renowned drinks like Guinness meant nothing, but when I declared to my students that Halloween began here, not in the States as they had guessed, they looked at my map of Ireland on the wall with fresh respect that lasted a good 20 seconds, at least.

Then there is the staggering amount of beauty products available to women to help them appear more “Western” – skin whiteners, blue contacts, threatening looking sticks to help create “dual” eyelids like Western girls and be rid of the “mono” eyelids that Asian girls naturally have.

Western culture

And so, on arrival, it appears as if the Japanese are rather eager to look as Western as possible. And even from the outside, before visiting, the impression we have is that of a very technologically advanced country – which for some reason leads us to believe that, in turn, it is advanced in all other ways as well. Yet the longer you spend there, the more it becomes obvious that really this is a very traditional country.

I’ve seen more smart phones, tablets and Kindles since returning to Irish shores than I ever did in Japan, even in Tokyo. Computerisation has not fully gripped Japan like it has our fair isle. The national post office, which doubles as the main bank, still operates fully on paper and carbon copies, meaning bank transfers, or something as simple as a balance enquiry, takes much longer than it does here and involves at least five members of staff, bowing and polite and generally making you feel a bit guilty for asking in the first place.

This is a country where appearance is hugely important. Everything is pretty and extremely detailed, from bento boxes, sweets and cakes to kimonos to temples and shrines. Scruffy or shabby do not seem to exist in the Japanese language. I’ve been told that there is quite a lot of keeping up with the Joneses, with a big emphasis on having the latest, the most expensive, the best brand or label – be it your washing machine or shoes – and that this leads to high levels of personal debt.

Appearances

Appearing Western is just another part of this. But really, not many people know who won the most recent American presidential election, what we eat for Christmas dinner (not fried chicken which is, bizarrely, the common belief), that Whitney Houston died or where or what Ireland is.

And who’s to say that they should know all of this? Not I, who can’t even name a Japanese politician or speak more than a few basic words of the language after three months living there. A certain distance from the Western world is what makes Japan and Asia in general such an intriguing place for us to visit.

Besides, the lack of knowledge about Ireland lent me a completely blank slate to work with – a breath of fresh air when we usually have to bat away the booze and spud jokes. So if anyone from Japan asks, we invented the wheel, made the first trip to space and Walt Disney was from Tipperary, okay?

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Hannah Quinn is from Ireland, but is living and working in Japan, teaching English. You can read more on her blog, Lost In Translation.

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Comments (77 Comments)

  • When I met a group of Japanese and Korean tourists they knew Glen Hansard and Bewitched. Once was a big movie over there and I had forgot who Bewitched were until they reminded me.

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  • eoghan 13/01/13 #

    Japan isn’t the only country iv been to that didn’t know we’re Ireland was or anything about Ireland.

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  • Andrew 13/01/13 #

    I lived and worked in Japan years ago, just outside Tokyo. For the most part, they were well aware of Ireland and our culture. Just like every other capital city, there were plenty of Irish pubs as Guinness and Irish whiskey in particular are popular. There is also a Bewley’s cafe in Omotesando that served porridge, irish breakfast and the like. Surprisingly, I found Japanese to be much more familiar with Ireland than a lot of Western countries…..

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  • Maybe use the Japanese name for Ireland when referring to it in Japan!

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  • Think this is a good article and not dissing the Japanese, we are a very very small island and frequently grouped in with England etc., you can’t blame them for appearing uninformed, hey I know very little about Japan and I’d say most Irish people are the same!

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  • Try asking them if they know koizumi yakaimo ( prob incorrect spelling as long time since I lived in rural Hiroshima as the only resident foreigner), he was an Irish/ Greek immigrant to Japan who was the first foreigner to translate Japanese haiku into a foreign language…..English which have him some cred in Japan…good luck there…strange but wonderful place

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  • Dave 13/01/13 #

    Having been to Japan, everyone I spoke with knew exactly where Ireland was and a little bit about it. I actually encounter far more lack of awareness in some English speaking countries, where i’d be introduced as being “from the UK”. Cough…Australia…cough…

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  • I’ve been here in the south of Japan about six months and totally agree with the author.

    Most people have never heard of Ireland. I spend most of the time saying “not England” and “not Iceland”(the Japanese for Ireland and Iceland are very similar. Every other Irish teacher I know here has the same thing. They do know some things about Ireland but didn’t pinpoint them- Enya, U2, Aran jumpers, Rory McIlroy, the IRA, Liam Neeson and smoked salmon are some of the things that have gotten me recognition. I can buy Jameson and baileys in my local tiny supermarket in a fairly rural spot, but it’s labelled on the shelf with a Union Jack(these moments bring out a republican side in you that you didn’t know existed). When I went to the doctors last month he asked me about Savita. They are incredibly intelligent as a country, but have always been more insular and homogenous, so a tiny country on the other side of the world has never been a big concern!

    One friend described the technology situation as this- “[they] make it then export it”. There are of course instances of the amazing technology, but for the most part, people don’t see it on a daily basis. Japan is run by the older generation who are reluctant to change to newer ideas.

    I think the author got it spot on and, while I’m sure like me is having an amazing time, it’s a real surprise to not have your country known. We’re brought up thinking we’re famous all over the world, but it’s not quite true. Excellent article Hannah!

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  • Séamus 14/01/13 #

    Alot of Japanese got to know Ireland when we played there at the World Cup 2002. Damien Duff was on the front page of their biggest newspaper bowing after scoring a goal.

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  • My grandfather worked for a Japanese company (Sanyo) all his life, any Japanese people I know (and I’ve met quite a lot!) know all about Ireland.
    And I wouldn’t say they don’t have a lot of smartphones – their “non smartphones” are streets ahead of ours! You can even pay for train tickets and groceries with some of them!

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  • ciara 13/01/13 #

    Hmm overall the article is fine, but left me feeling a little perturbed. As an Irish person who has been living in Japan for the past two years, I have yet to find someone who didn’t know Ireland or something about it. Yes sometimes I may have had to adjust my pronunciation, island/Ireland sound quite similar to Japanese people but did they know where it was? Yes. Did they know information about it? Yes.

    http://www.travellingtalesofciara.com – Japan As I Find It.

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    • Is it as expensive as people say?I only ask because everyone has this concept of Australia being very expensive when in fact its not.Ill have a read of your site on my break,enjoy yourself!!

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    • ciara 14/01/13 #

      Hmm that is a tough question to answer – there are many places to visit for free such as the Meji-Jingumae shrine, Tokyo metropolitan government buildings to name but a few, eating out can be quite reasonable and travelling around by train is cheap. Like most countries in Asia, if you live like the locals it is not that expensive. However if you want Western food, travel around in a taxi and stay in a 5 star hotel, then yes Japan can be very very expensive.

      The only thing that really bothers me is the price of fruit – you will find a post about it on my blog. Happy reading!

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    • Really want to go there and id prefer a month there than 6 in NZ/SE Asia so i will the blog,thanks!

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    • ciara 16/01/13 #

      Please like my page, I would really appreciate it:

      https://www.facebook.com/JapanAsIFindIt

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  • I thought the mere mention of Riverdance anywhere in the world would have changed quizical expressions to ones of recognition. ;)

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  • I am so disappointed by this article- I never comment but I can’t let this one go without making a few points.
    1. Acknowledging the use of stereotypes doesn’t make using them ok- essentialist descriptions of a foreign culture are cheap ways to write ‘interesting’ pieces without actually offering any insight
    2. Nagoya is an incredibly vibrant city, with a big arts scene, festivals, universities, and interesting history- with many cool districts and neighborhoods – though of course you can’t appreciate it if you don’t bother to learn the language
    3. Walt Disney’s great-grandfather was from Kilkenny.
    You don’t have to be patronizing towards another culture or tell lies about your own to express pride in it.

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  • Thank you for all your comments, it’s always helpful to get feedback.
    I do apologise to anyone offended by what I’ve written – this was purely from my experience and interactions and I would caution any individuals hoping to quote this article as part of a thesis, journal or any academic essay to perhaps carry out some sort of independent quantitative study on the global geographic knowledge of a representative cross-section of the 127.8m Japanese population both in Nagoya and beyond beforehand for some definite facts and figures.

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  • Nice article.

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  • Strange you think not technologically advanced. When I lived there 10 years ago I could get Internet on my mobile phone and turn the heating on in my apartment from a remote control in the pub….and guinness was served in my local bar.

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    • In some ways they still use a lot of old technology Richard. I was requested to send the first fax of my life the other day to the Board of Eduction in my prefecture, and my friend had to submit a report by floppy disc recently too!!!

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  • I liked this article. I remember travelling in china 4 years ago and mentioning U2, bono, Enya etc and all I got was blank faces! But bring up Westlife and they nearly cried with joy.

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  • Japan through the eyes of an English teacher who knows nothing of the language or culture. I assume no money changed hands for this gem.

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  • Many around the world don’t know about Ireland, the author’s conversation about ‘island’ sound about right to me. In Switzerland I was often asked about being from “Hollande” and “Islande” despite my saying “Irlande”. In reverse though over here over the years I have been asked if I speak “Switzerlandish” or Swedish on more than one occasion… I find it funny, no offense caused. I know precious little about Vanuatu…

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  • I have no idea for Japan, but I moved to Paris last year and it turned out my neighbour thought that irish (Gaelic as they call it here) was just English spoken with an Irish accent. We brought our cat to the vet and during the course of the conversation he mentioned that he’d like to visit Ireland, but changing euros to sterling for a holiday would be a nuisance. Oh and an eight-year old daughter of a french friend was very proud to be able to recite a list of the countries in the Commonwealth for me… including Ireland.
    So you don’t have to go to the other side of the world to find that people’s knowledge of Ireland is limited…

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  • Once in Greece , was asked where I was from .
    Ireland .
    Ah yes m, I have been there – the port of Rotterdam.
    No not Holland – Ireland
    ( Blank stare)
    Dublin
    (Blank stare )
    IRA
    ( Ahhhh yes )

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  • Great article,v interesting

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  • In all my time in Japan, I have never encountered a Japanese person who did not know where Ireland was; it makes me wonder who exactly the author has been speaking to. And Nagoya is far from uninteresting, it contains one of the country’s most venerated shrines for Christ’s sake. Do a bit more exploring.

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  • They have more in common with Iceland, the two countries cant get enough whale meat .

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  • This is Japan through the eyes of a recent emigrant. A commentary on the personal experiences of the author of the culture clash and differences between Irish and Japanese society. These are experiences from a small pocket of Japan, for a short period of time. This shouldn’t need spelling out, but after reading some of the comments it seems the article has been mistaken for a thesis or some great work of research. This article never set out to change the face of Irish-Japanese relations, I don’t understand what gave some people that expectation…

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  • How many Irish people can name the four big islands of the Japanese archipelago?

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  • Hairy Japanese baxtereds

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  • Interesting and informative article , we should have more like this written by people on the ground about ordinary daily life

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  • FFS one of their most famous actors was named Pat, step forward Pat “Mr Myiagi” Morita

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  • Ah Here 14/01/13 #

    Ah here I lived in Japan for 3 years. People know where Ireland is and they know Obama is the president of the US. And I think if you look a bit more closely you’ll see a big difference between wanting to be westerners and adapting some western customs and culture to suit local tastes. I could go on and on but I think the best thing to advise the author is to spend a bit longer in the country, learn the language, go a bit deeper into the culture and then come back and write a more nuanced article.

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  • Bren Dan 14/01/13 #

    This is rubbish i know a lot of japanese girls and they are aware of Ireland. Forget about U2 and enya if you wanna explain where your from say you come from where westlife is from . Westlife were huge in asia . Strange but true .

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    • Bren I completely agree with the author. Outside of the big cities most people have no clue what/where it is. In both junior high schools I teach at in Japan, Only two of my classes were able to point Ireland out on the map in my self-intro classes! Not there fault like, many Irish kids wouldn’y have a clue about North/South Korea, Taiwan etc..

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    • Bren Dan 15/01/13 #

      Nigel , That’s very interesting ,Just going back to what I hear from other people I know .I know a girl from Tokyo and 2 others from Fukishima and Osaka . My friend from Tokyo has a sister in Liverpool so she probably she has a head start. But people in Ireland think theyre bigger and more inportant than they actually are. Ireland is small but so is the whole of the EU compared to Asia .

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  • More offensive to Japanese people than Irish, tbh. You really seem to have them down as uneducated idiots.

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  • Cannot believe the author, having been in Japan for a number of years, cannot name one politician. Shinzō Abe became PM only a month back. How this didn’t cross the author’s radar when it was main news worldwide is remarkable.

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  • ciara 16/01/13 #

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  • You shouldn’t slag off where you live after only 3 months. There are lots of things to do in Nagoya and there are great days trips to enjoy to nearby Gifu and Mie. Also if you don’t know about Japanese politicians then read the newspaper and learn about what’s going in the country where you live – Japan Times, Daily Yomiuri, Japan Today (website).

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