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Sinn Féin rises to second in latest party polling

Sinn Féin has overtaken Labour and Fianna Fáil – making it the second most popular political part in Ireland, according to today’s poll.

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A NEW POLITICAL POLL of Irish voting intentions has revealed that Sinn Féin are now the second most popular political party in the country – with their likely voters now greater in number than those of Labour or Fianna Fáil.

An Ipsos MRBI poll published in this morning’s Irish Times shows that Sinn Fein would count on 18 per cent of voters’ support if an election was to be held tomorrow – higher than any party but Fine Gael.

Fine Gael’s support remains substantial with 35 per cent – one point lower than its general election performance, and 3 points lower than its showing in the last Irish Times poll published in late July.

Sinn Féin’s share of the vote, at 18, is up by a massive eight points on both the general election and the July poll.

Labour are beaten into third place, counting on the support of 17 per cent of voters – down over 2 per cent from February, and by one point on the previous poll.

Fianna Fáil, meanwhile, loses two points on its opinion poll showing to fall to 16 per cent and an unprecedented fourth place – down two points from the July poll and 1.4 per cent on the February election.

The Green Party holds its 2 per cent share of support, while the share reserved for independents and others falls by two points to 12.

The Irish Times’ political editor Stephen Collins this morning wrote that the Sinn Féin support showed a heavy split between genders, with men accounting for almost two-thirds of its likely voters.

Nonetheless, the party is clearly performing strongly on the back of Sinn Féin’s decision to nominate Martin McGuinness for the Presidential election.

A Red C poll published yesterday showed that some 70 per cent of people who voted for Sinn Féin in February were likely to vote for McGuinness in the Presidential election – by far the highest support of any candidate belonging to a political party.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny remains the most popular party leader in the State, with 51 per cent satisfaction. Labour’s Eamon Gilmore stands on 42 per cent.

Fianna Fáil leader Micheal Martin’s support drops nine points to 28, falling behind that of Gerry Adams who stands on 36, up by five.

The poll was carried out at the same time as the Irish Times’ presidential poll, and carries a margin of error of 3 per cent.

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Comments (58 Comments)

  • This is incredible. Looks like our two party system has been replaced by a new one. After 90 years of FF-FG, we now have FG-SF it seems. I’d say Micheal Martin choked on his Shredded Wheat opening the Times this morning!

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    • Actually since it’s neck and neck between SF and Labour, it’s much more like a traditional three party system, like they used to have in England between Labour, Liberals and Tories. Laughing at the Michael Martin comment alright. Little bit concerned at how far ahead FG are of the other parties though. Double the support of the next biggest party seems a little troubling.

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  • The presidential campaign has served as an education for an electorate who have been badly served by the establishment media as much as the main politicial parties. Labour’s vote in the last general election represented a progressive vote, but many of those voters will be questioning that party’s role in implementing Thatcherite policies. I suspect that many people voted FG last time to get FF out. Slowly, but surely there has been more dissent from the politics that have been dominent for many years and people are rightly questioning what they have been led to believe as the only viable political and economic model of government. Now that unregulated capitalism has been exposed as failing ordinary people, we are thinking again. The Occupy Wall Street (and many other places as well) protests are another indication of change. It wont change quick enough, but the growth of SF and the shock to the system that follows can only help.

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  • Id imagine FG aren’t too happy either.

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    • I actually think that FG HQ are working on this, Martin is being ignored in the Dáil, he gets a nod and a few words from Kenny. Adams gets a full answer , they view him as the leader of the opposition. FG are hoping that SF will take votes off FF/LAB/ULA everyone. It leaves FG as the largest parties and 3 mid sized parties. FG do not like SF but they know that if FF come back that this country will be finished for good as an independent and viable state, that is presuming that we can get out of the hole that FF/PD’s crashed us in to, while lining their own pockets.

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    • Makes you wonder what you could have achieved by now if you’d abandoned the armilite for the ballot box all those years ago?

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    • Absolutely not. the prospect of Taoiseach Gerry Adams and Minister for Finance Pearse Doherty will keep Fine Gael strong for the next 10 years!

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  • Remember!

    Given the next round of cuts/taxes/charges to come with the next bad budget – don’t expect FG/Labour to maintain its support and people not wanting FF also, will look elsewhere in other directions!

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  • Austerity leads to more radical thinking paving the way for a party like sinn fein

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  • Interestingly though Fine Gael , with their huge number of seats , only represent a third or so of the voters !
    Must be a worry for them into the future, that as they become less popular with their austerity measures and ambitions their vote and support will almost certainly reduce substantially !

    Great to see though that the fantastic hard work of the SF young people ,as well as the Elder Lemons also , is reaping the rewards so richly deserved by their energetic work in the Dail , Stormont and in Councils throughout the 32 Counties of our Country – the only Party to do this on an All Island basis !
    Onwards and upwards !

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  • Show me any party in Europe that has a consistent history of ruining their economy and forcing its own people to emigrate, leaving them in poverty and crap. FG and FF are unique in this regard. Ireland has set records for economic collapse, we had the worst child mortality in the world in the 50′s, Jack Lynch set records for the fastest growth of debt in a western economy in the late 70′s. Garrett then came along and multiplied that debt by 4. I could go on for a week. Ireland does not have a future if FG and most certainly FF have a future.

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  • People are also tied of the same old tired parties and their ways I suspect.
    This constant switch one for the other as we have done for years, is just like a never ending game of musical chairs – which is fine in itself – but the same old methods of operation and often two faced treatment of the public in general is disconcerting to say the least.

    When people are peed off, what can one expect but upheaval and change.
    Eventually that change is bound to come in various guises.

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  • RG Cuan 07/10/11 #

    Refreshing to see that more people are moving on and looking forward rather than harking back to the past like much of our media and political establishment.

    The population are looking for alternatives to the self-serving party interests and this latest poll reflects this change.

    Ar aghaidh linn.

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  • As much as this shocks me, i would much prefer to see Sinn Fein in power than FF ever again.

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  • Wondering how’s Bertie taking it ..hah

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    • Not surprising result. Even if Martin McGuinness fails to get to the presidents office, his running is serving a second objective – higher profile for the SF organisation. This is a clear second and longer term objective. Anyone that cannot see this, is a fool – such as Fianna Fail who some in it openly admit, it was a mistake that they did not run a candidate for office. That person would have been doomed for failure but would have taken on (like clearly FG’s Mitchell whom I suspect is greatly in the race just to try put down SF) their opposition and kept their existence out there – if we like it or not. Sinn Fein do have long term objectives and have no doubt, they are determined to succeed.

      If standing in a desert where there is no water – one if desperate and mad enough enough, might be tempted to drink the sand!

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    • I would actually put Martin’s winning the race as a purely stretch target. The current one is very much about getting a good vote, publicity and building up the party through increased membership. FG and FF have bankrupted this state 4 times, driven nearly half the people born here since 1921 away on the boat or plane. They have robbed this country blind, if the English had stayed in the south and only did half of what FG/FF did over the last 50 years, then you would not be able to throw a stick without hitting an IRA man or woman.

      Ireland does not have a future, if FF and FG do.

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  • People are changing old-established party allegiances, because they have been treated like mushrroms for years (kept in the dark and fed sh*t) ….
    I wish SF well, it is a progressive party, which has a baisc principle of doing the right thing for the citizens of this country. They are role-modelling to the Irish peole, by allowing their TDs in the South and the MLA’s in the North taking home the average industrial wage. Yes, they put the rest of their earnings into a communal pot, to be used by the party to build on its election base.. i dont have a problem with that, while the FG/Labour/FF fat-cats do. They want their elected representatives to get paid as much as possible, keep it for themselves and to hell with the rest of us. It is greed that has ended up reducing the established parties % support, more than what the SF folks have done so far to increase theirs… This is evidenced by the fact that even though SF did not have TDs run in every constituency in the last election, they are still perceived to be the second largest party inthe country. The people really are tired of the Fat-Cat ministers lining their own pockets with wages and pensions. They are tired of the banking executives sailing off into the sunset with disgustingly large hand-shakes instead of hand-cuffs … FG/Labour/FF only have themselves to balme for this upset. The political landscape is changing in Ireland for the good …. The people are expressing their disgust at what they see as bed-feathering by successive governments, pandring to the richest in our society, while putting most of the pain onto the least well off. I respect the people for this.

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  • 07/10/11 #

    fine gael are so widely represented though. in many constituencies they had 2, sometimes 3 candidates running. sinn fein sometimes didnt have any. I support them but they do have to greatly increase their presence in the republic to have a chance. great news all the same, maybe things can truly change. loved the image of michael martin choking on his shredded wheat!

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  • It should be pointed out that Sinn Fein would not become the second largest party in the Dail on these numbers. They’re still very transfer repellant. You either given them your number 1 or you give them nothing.

    FG 71
    Lab 31
    SF 26
    FF 19
    Ind 19

    However they would at least become the leaders of the opposition. The first time that the position will have been held by anyone but FF or FG! :O

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  • Great news for all of us.

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  • The times they are a changin’

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  • SF have certainly got a lot more credentials as “the Republican Party” for those who are concerned with such ideas – so FF lose out there. SF also give them impression of not messing about when it comes to socialist or left wing politics – so Labour lose a lot of ground there. I think it’s good to have SF getting more involved in politics in the south, we’ve had enough of messers and bullshitters.

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  • A Nation Once Again.

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  • Great news. They are the original party in ireland.

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    • Think you’ll find that the sinn fein started by Arthur Griffith in 1905 is no relation to the present sinn fein. They’ve spilt a few times since, changed focus(from right to left) and even a court case in the 50′s stated this.

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  • What does this matter. Only poll that matters is the election poll. I think for SF to enter government they’d have to be the largest party in the next election.

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  • Conal 07/10/11 #

    Tiocfaidh ar lá

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  • O lord…

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    • West brit attitude! Embrace the change.

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    • Embrace the change !!!!

      Oh Yes I love the idea of left-wing gunmen being in a position of power – Punishment shootings, intimidation, and protection rackets is not the type of change I welcome.

      Their rise almost makes me miss the (arrogant and corrupt) Fianna Fail party

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    • Barry R, move on! The war is over now. Are people going to be saying the same s**t about SF in 50 years time. They have some great YOUNG politicians and some experienced ones that have seen it all. They deserve a chance for there work over the past 15 years particularly. Broaden your mind!

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    • War ? What “war” ? Bunch of cowards hiding behind ditches in balaclavas. If they were in a real war situation, the IRA & their Loyalist counterpars would shit themselves. Some “war” abducting people, murdering them & secretely burying them. I hope this “rise” in popularity is just a temporary thing & the poll doesn’t reflect everyone’s view. Just a sample. Hardly a true reflection.”

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    • I agree Kevin . It is time to move on . I said it at the time Queen Elizabeth was here and I still say it .We all need to move on. I was delighted with her visit and got some what slagged off on these pages for my enthusiasm and was reminded about all the atrocities of the past 800 years etc etc I said then that there is no future in the past and it is time to move on …. and here I am supporting Martin Mc Guinness in his run for Presidency …..It is time to move on there is no future in the past . Martin Mc Guinness is a respected politician and it seems we here in the Republic are the only ones who can not see it . It is time to move on . Sorry, I am being repetitive :)

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    • @Declan.
      Why do you hope SF’s rise in popularity is just temporary?
      You sound like you’re content with the failed civil war parties and policies of FF and FG

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    • No. I’m not content with FF & FG, Dermot. They have failed miserably, esp FF. I simply do not like SF & esp despise Gerry “I’ve Never Been In The IRA” Adams. For many reasons & the late Mrs Jean McConville is but one. Yes – Eire needs new political thinking & ideas with a “can do” attitude that goes all the way. To me, SF will never fulfill that role here in the Republic. If they wish to be taken seriously in any meaniful way, they have to drop the cult of leadership, seperate from the past & come up with credible alternatives. Time will tell. Anyway – have a nice day !! Cheers !!

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    • Well Declan, despite your hatred towards Gerry Adams he still topped the poll in Co.Louth and was democratically elected, likewise Caoimhin O’Caolain has been a dutiful, loyal representative of Cavan/Monaghan the past decade so I’m sure they are appealing to helluva lot more people than you’d care to admit, so you’re desire to see their popularity as temporary looks doomed to failure.

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    • Thanks Eileen, and thanks for the support! And its important you bring the Queen into all of this and i respect what you said,….but the terror she and her ancestors inflected on this world was atrocious, but that’s OK i guess!. Unlike McGuinness…..she has never been elected and never will be, but yet it was seemingly great to see her in this country. Why? The Crown or McGuinness……both terrorists maybe? I really don’t understand that word to be honest. But i do love the word entropy! :)

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    • Entropy = Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society. :( So negative ! But if that is how you feel then so be it . I am a glass half full type of gal ! Cheers Kevin .:)

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  • Uh oh….think things are bad now, if those crazies get in we may all get out. God save Ireland if they ever did…

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    • God doesn’t exist. But the political will of the people does exist. It was cronyism that destroyed this country – not Sinn Féin. Sinn Féin work extremely hard on the ground, live amongst their constituents and are alot closer in touch with the average citizen than any other party.

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  • All that’s happened is that the idiots who repeatedly voted Fine Fail have switched allegiance.

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    • Donal ! I never supported FF ever , however I like the way SF are conducting themselves , their outlook and their input. I imagine the next time a general election comes about ,who knows how I will vote, they are giving me food for thought .

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  • I think that as long as the older generation of SF are in power they will never get into power. Too much mis trust (both warranted and unwarranted). Think for sinn fein to grow adams and that crew should make way for the younger TD’s( pierce seems to be a future leader in the making). I also think that they have to make their policies clearer. On SOME issues they are sitting on the fence.

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    • Very true, but McGuinness and Adams are both in their 60s. Their time in national politics is coming to an end. Once the IRA generation is out of the way, the possibilities for Sinn Fein are huge. I think they’re almost certain to enter government at some stage in the future. The sooner they move into the political centre, the sooner it’ll happen.

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    • i agree, pearse doherty looks to me as a possible SF president in the future. i also think that the likes of gerry adams, martin mcguinness & caoimhghín ó caoláin etc are trying to set the tone and foundation for those younger members coming through the party.

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  • Thats if the Real IRA don’t feck it up for them in the meantime. Oh sorry, Sinn Fein have no ties to them do they?? Sssssssshh. Wink Wink..

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    • Typical ill-educated comment from someone who has not kept up with the times. The Real IRA hate the Shinners who they see them as giving up the armed struggle. MMG has been threatened with execution by the RIRA, CIRA and OnaE because of his “traitors” comments. The only reason that RIRA would want to mess up MMG’s chances of election is because they can’t stand the man. If you are going to try to use sly innuendo as opposed to facts I suggest you at least know some bit of what is going on before you distort the truth.

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    • No – They don’t have any ties with the Real IRA. It’s scary how misinformed some people can be. But I guess that’s what happens after decades of media perversion against Sinn Féin.

      If you must be educated on the internet – The Real IRA are reportedly tied to the 32 County Sovereignty Movement. They have absolutely nothing to do with Sinn Féin. You need to educate yourself on the various Republican groups and study who supports and who opposes the Good Friday Agreement.

      Until then – save your misinformed nonsense for your barstool.

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    • It was the provisional IRA that sinn fein were the political wing off.

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  • Movement in left wing politics imminent with Labour feeling the heat

    Realistically the left outsides have no coherence in policy and are only paying lip service at present in Ireland mouthing inane solutions to serious problems .look to their duplicity in Northern politics

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  • So, the people of Ireland sent Fianna Fail packing and are now embracing … Fianna Fail Nua.

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  • I think they’ll leave Doherty in Finance. I don’t agree with his views but he’s well capable of articulating them and he’s percieved as having a strong grasp of the brief.

    I’d say Mary Lou will jump from Vice-President to President.

    SF has a huge problem in attracting women voters. If only men had the vote, Sinn Fein would be a massive party :P. Mary Lou will bring a better image to the party. Having the South Dublin accident that she has will help too.

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