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Quinn’s former Cambridge hotel sells for nearly €45 million

The Crowne Plaza in Cambridge was bought by the Livingstone Brothers, who already own the Four Seasons in Dublin.

The Crowne Plaza in Cambridge sold for the equivalent of £177,000 per bedroom.
The Crowne Plaza in Cambridge sold for the equivalent of £177,000 per bedroom.
Image: Christie & Co

A HOTEL formerly owned by Sean Quinn has been sold for almost €45 million in Britain.

The Crowne Plaza Hotel in Cambridge, which was owned by a subsidiary of Quinn Insurance, was bought by brothers Ian and Richard Livingstone, who already own Dublin’s Four Seasons Hotel.

The sale process was begun by administrators Grant Thornton four months ago. That company had taken over Quinn Insurance in April 2010.

The 198-guest room was marketed as enjoying a “prominent trading location” in the city, which already had limited hotel supply.

The sale price means each bedroom in the hotel cost £177,000 (€225,000) to buy.

Jeremy Jones of Christie & Co, a hospitality advisor which organised the sale, said the sales process for the hotel had been “extremely competitive”.

“This was reflected in highly competitive bidding to secure this profitable hotel which benefits from a leading global brand and incumbent manager in InterContinental Hotels Group,” he said.

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Comments (41 Comments)

  • Des B 03/08/12 #

    Hilarious to see people supporting Quinn as he plays the “sure I’m just a simple country man”. He’s a greedy egomaniac.
    He gambled with his employees careers and lost. As a result, he owes money to a (now state owned) bank. Like anyone else, he will have to pay his debts.
    It’s so funny watching the morons from “rural Ireland” as they keep saying, screaming that this is a Dublin 4 witchhunt. Wake up. He owes the money cos his foolish ego driven efforts to buy a bank failed.
    Delighted to see that this is one asset the chancer wasn’t able to hide.

    To all the simpletons defending Ireland’s greediest ego – he’s laughing his ass off at you

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    • Do you really think that the ”D4” inbreeds and their bedfellows would let a man from the country buy a bank?

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    • ‘Morons’, ‘simpletons’,…..any more terms there Des? I believe ‘gombeen’, ‘stupid’, ‘idiot’ have also been used to describe anyone who might be supportive of Quinn. It shows what level you are at. Log into oneworldchronicle.com and have a glance at the article on Quinn. It may not be written at your level but sure give a go….

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    • Another nordie spoofer under the guise of the “simple man”

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    • Charlie – oneworldchronicle has an agenda. It’s good that such points are raised that shines a light on a certain angle but the idea that this situation is all down to the banks is absolute tripe.

      We have (had?) a system to engage with, Sean Quinn engaged with it in a very risky way – this was in no way helped by the sales-based investment banking attitude but it does not absolve Sean Quinn of his responsibilities and decisions.

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  • Quinn wouldn’t have had a problem if he didn’t try to add a bank to his collection. Greed and hubris have been the undoing of many a man.

    I can hardly be alone in finding the “simple country fella” act insulting and distasteful. We have one of the most savvy businessmen of his generation putting on a performance that’s almost in line with a nineteenth century caricature of the Irish. Disgusting.

    You gambled, you lost, now have some dignity and pay up.

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    • Reg 03/08/12 #

      I’m not so sure that he wouldn’t be in trouble if he hadn’t got involved with Anglo. He was running the insurance company as if it was his own piggy bank.

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  • In famine times we knew and despised the Gombeen Man for what he was. Now all educated and sophisticated, many think him a wonder entrepreneur!

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    • i dont know know of any other irish man or woman who employed as many people as he did? frustrating to see things pan out as they did, but declaring him bankrupt for twelve years does not improve irbc’s chances of getting its money back.

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  • To Anel and Paddy… Get a grip, you talk about the workers of Sean Quinn, let’s say the regulator didn’t go in….what would’ve happened then…..the company would have become insolvent with overheads that couldn’t be paid….what would’ve happened to the workers…100% lay offs that’s what. Quinn insurance(as one part of his holdings) was already flagged in the UK for irregularities before Anglo collapsed…I’m from a border county and think Quinn and family should get exactly what is deserved. He is not the only one, and he gambled (illegally) and lost, now he is paying the price.

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    • Rubbish lies spin. All insurance company’s problems are since Quinn left it was a great company doing well until stolen the insurance levy is to pay administrators. Wake up people your homes and businesses are next

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    • Reg 03/08/12 #

      Anel – that is a complete load of horse manaure. He got fined for not setting aside enough reserves to meet future claims. Those claims are now coming in and it means that the citizens of this country will be paying a 2% levy on their insurance for the next 15 years. Read this article and educate yourself Anel: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/insurance-rescue-raises-more-questions-for-quinn-3187040.html

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    • And that Anal, in a nutshell, is exactly what Quinn and his co-fraudsters want to hear. The basic idea of researching the facts before you open your mouth (or tap your keyboard) and then understanding them seems to be beyond a lot of the sheep. Your comment is indicative of the blind stupidity in supporting this criminal. If he had the supposed interests of the Irish people in mind he wouldn’t be offloading hundreds of millions in offshore accounts around the world (or feel the need to if he knew he was in the right). He knows he’s wrong, has admitted it on national TV, yet continues to flaut the law and defy the courts. Some hero you have there Anal!

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    • Lads – come on now, don’t get sucked in….

      “Anal Cream”? obvious troll.

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  • Des B 03/08/12 #

    It’s not about declaring him bankrupt for 12 years. It’s about forcing him to pay back his gambling debts. It’s about saying you will be bound by the same law as everyone else. It’s about not letting a greasy egomaniac walk away and leave the rest of us to pick up the tab.

    The fact that he previously created jobs is of no relevance. Lots of people create jobs. It doesn’t mean they are not beholden to the law. Mick Wallace created jobs. Sean Fitzpatrick created jobs. All those property developers created jobs. So what. That has nothing to do with the fact that people have to pay back their debts

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  • Interesting to hear comments praising Quinn insurance products when their business model was to refuse indemnity on a claim at the slightest excuse. I know this because I was involved in several arbitrations against Quinn over the years and in all but one case their refusal to indemnify was found to be a breach of policy conditions. They also had a policy of doorsteping claimants in an attempt to get them to settle claims at less than full value and without legal advice.

    In either case I would view such actions as taking advantage of vulnerable people. If someone can scarcely afford insurance the chances are they will not have the wherewithal to challenge their insurer when it refuses to honour the policy.

    So there may very well be reason why Quinn supplied cheap insurance,if that was the model they applied. Any readers have this experience with Quinn?

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    • No but i had this experience with Norwich Union, My father paid life insurance all this life and had a contract before all these crazy clauses were ever invented and they refused to pay out. Harrowing really,insurance is awful and you can understand they are paying people in their offices to find any way possible of not having to pay out. That was 14 years ago and to this day nothing ever came of it. The pension i now pay is also worth nada, what does the future hold for us all, are well all going to contine to be walked over or what is the way forward

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  • Ah would yas leave poor Quinn alone, I would have done exactly the same thing, actually no I’m wrong I would have been worse!

    It’s just another chapter in the book!

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  • Des B 03/08/12 #

    I have the height of respect for Fr Brian Darcy, but am disgusted to have seen him at the Quinn-Fein meeting

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  • ”Corrupt banks who owes the state €32 billion and counting, closes down 45 year old highly successful business that employs 7000 people”
    Justice??

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  • Nice pay day for Grant Thorntom

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  • State sponsored theft. There will be those stupid enough to think this is good for taxpayer or state in some way. Not one penny will go to taxpayer. Big payday for grant Thornton Quinn’s alleged debt will increase and some one else will be robbed tomorrow.

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  • Quinn’s alleged debt won’t reduce and tax payers won’t benefit more lies and spin to follow. Sure the Spindo won’t be saying Quinn clears 50% of alleged debt nor will Kennt

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    • Blah Blah, change the tone Anal, your obvious attempts at trolling are ridiculous
      “Quinns alleged debt”. Oh for god sale!

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    • Sake.

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    • Quinn is a liar, egomaniac, greasy man. Wake up and smell the roses. We all have to pay more on our (2%) more on our insurance policies. WHY ? Has not paid a penny of his mortgage. Tried to slip his daughters wedding costs into the Slieve Russell accounts. Vat fraud. On and on and on. He is a failed gambler

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    • 2% levy.
      I can live with that.
      Quinn brought down my insurance quotes by thousands.
      I could not have got car insurance in the Republic of Ireland throughout my teens and 20′s if it were not for Quinn Insurance as I was getting quotes of 3/4/5 thousand from the lazy, greedy, inbred, extortionate monopolies who would rather see me emigrate.
      Now even these greedy competitors are quoting lower.
      Do you really think these snout nosed types would have dropped their prices in their monopolised market without the competition from Quinn??

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    • As for business insurance.
      In the late 90′s Quinn was the only company that would quote me in the Republic.
      The cosy cartel would not quote.
      It was Quinn or Llyods of London at 3 times the price.

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  • Dear God, fed up reading about this now read the impartial reporter.com interview with Seans brother this week, ready whats really going on here. He borrowed money from anglo on an anglo business structure that did not exist, surely everyone can see that. Are you all saying anglo is a totally innocent party here. Why change the name of the bank, whats to hide. They are just another phoenix business risig under a different name, sad but true

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    • Spot on Paul.

      It’s stupid of people to think that a corrupt company who racked up €32 billion and counting of taxpayer debt, is acting in their best interests.

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    • Paul, I dont think anyone has said Anglo are an innocent party. Quite the opposite in fact. Theres as many people who want to see Seanie and Drumm and all the other lackeys hauled over the coals and before the courts as want to see Quinn. The allegation the Quinney-supporters constantly harped on about is that a Nay for their man automatically means a Yay for Anglo. Its the failure to see that its not an either/or scenario. Both are wrong. Both are equally crooked. Both are equeally greedily. And both should be dealth with in the due course of time. Seanie Fitz has been arrested 3 times, been declared a bankrupt, had his assets seized, charged with 16 offences and is undergoing further investigation by the Director of Corporate Enforcement. That case is ongoing as is other investigations against others involved. Its not just Quinn, no matter how much you want to believe it is, however Sean Quinn has left a more damaging legacy through his illegal business practices with his insurance company and his ineptitude when trying to take over a bank. If you scrape just a littel below the surface and investigate some of the real facts you will see the shine of the Quinn lustre is little more than a thin layer hiding a rotten core to his empire. He failed t oprotect his workers by betting their jobs on personal property in Eastern Europe, Anglo failed, the politicians failed. They should ALL be got at. Starting with the biggest crook…Quinn himself.

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  • A good read….On quinn in http://www.oneworldchronicle.com. For those of you that might dare to read a different point of view!

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  • Its strange how.

    850 NAMA ”developers” racked up €71 billion, that one way or another we are going to pay back for them.
    Some of them individually owe just as much as Quinn to Irish banks alone and similar amounts to non Irish banks.
    Unlike Quinn who owned income producing multi-generational, strong businesses that employed 7000 people, these ”developers” owned valueless, none income producing fields and half finished shoddy building sites.
    Please note: these builders found it hard to pay anyone in the good times apart from the media who advertised their overpriced, badly built, shoebox properties.

    What did our fine ”leaders” and ”protectors” decide to do?
    (1) Shut Quinn down, try to disgrace him and his family, take everything from him, try to never allow him to create another job in the country and try to jail him and his family.
    and (2)
    Give the ”developers” €100′s of thousands a year in salaries, allow them to keep their expensive cars, houses and other toys, allow them to ”operate” their companies and allow them media immunity.

    Not to mention our government allowing the ”Financial Regulator” who presided over this mess total media immunity and a huge pension.

    Can someone tell me why the emphasis is on Quinn for a couple of billion that he could, would, wanted to and guaranteed us to pay back, (even though it is highly questionable that he actually owed it in the first place).
    Evidently the man has more ability than all of these 850 cowboys put together (and all of our fine ”leaders” and ”protectors” if it goes to that).

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  • Hi Mark i understand what you are saying, is it possible that the guys you mention have also hidden assetts they would never be found, i dont hear them offering to pay everything back, the whole thing stinks.

    All i am saying is some crazy decisions have gone over the years but Sean is being made an example off. I wait with baited breath to see how far they go in regards the cases againt the others, dont see many doing time as yet.

    Someone that offers to pay everything back should be respected, irrespective or if he was misinformed or not (only time will tell)

    I am from Fermanagh myself which might explain my attitude but i am impartial as anyone.

    It would be different if i could not pay back a loan i would expect them to close in on me. But if i was to pay back what i could over a period of time their is indeed laws that protect me, so that i can try my best to pay everything back. This man was not given that opportunity and pounced upon for all assets as they are cash generating businesses.

    He is probably one of the few people that could have cleared things given time thats why it upsets me and other Fermangh and Cavan people, to see where this man came from and what he achieved. People say he took a gamble and indeed he may well have but you should be able to trust a respected instution to give you the right information when you make an investment with them.

    Why are people able to claim their load protection payments back, this to was misinformation. I just want the man to recover and for a moral outcome to be reached.

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  • Charlie Bucket, that was a riviting read thankyou. It really is the reality. Frightening all the collusion from different parties, blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth if it has not been sold of to the highest bidder by then. But sure can we buy it back for ten times the price like the tolls, the gas, the oil and the fish. Will they ever look at the long term picture. Arsen Wenger would be good at running this country, a calm head when everyone else is losing theirs.

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