Well 6 of them are off on one of those heavily work laden “Junkets” and spending over 4500 euros per night on luxury accomadation in New York (I thinks its NY, not that it matters didely squat where it is). I would imagine they all flew 1st class so as not to mix the rabble.

Kerry – over the next 24 monthis we will be paying 11 billion euros into the ESM. The 1.27 billion that we will hand over on the 1st July IS the first instalment. Given that the money pit, thanks to Spain and Italy, is already showing a minus balance before it actually comes into existence, we can take it that the sum of 11 billion will increase drastically. When the ESM comes into effect Mario Merkel will insist on increasing the percentage of Capital Stock provided by each eurozone state. I would imagine that at some point in the next 12 months our commitment will be increased to at least 15 billion euros. But sure hey – it doesnt matter that Irish kids are going to bed hungry as long as Edna and Co. Ltd get to keep their seats on the good old gravy train. Seating reserved for them and their cronies.

@ Gavan

Whats the story with Pringle, wasnt it heard yesterday?

@Ann – Kicked off yesterday but likely to continue for most of the week. We’ll keep you posted!

Thanks Gavan :O)

And Reada dont forget that the 60% of those that voted yes actually only represent 20.1% of the voting population.

but not voting is voting with the majority.

2 dislikes from the banker’s family…

you doing a survey?
put me down for a yes.

Yep, Ireland will be paying 1.17 billion euros to hand straight to Italy and Spain in 4 weeks time. No money left in the pot for us, but who cares.

And oh yeah, FFg/Labour/FF will be handing over another 1,100,000,000.00 euro next week to unsecured bondholders from Anglo. No legal requirement to do it, but FF/FF/Labour think its the right thing to do, and sure, we have loads of money anyway.
Meanwhile that git Hogan is still terrorising 46% of the homeowners in Ireland for his banking bailout charge, sorry i mean household charge money.
If you were reading this about any other country in the world, you would laugh your head off.

Cal
You for got to say that these guys pensions are all secure too. They will not have the worries the rest of us have or will have.

The vast majority of people didn’t understand what they were voting for.

Does that also apply to the no voters? Or is it only the poor saps who voted yes that just didn’t understand?

Every time my red thumb count goes up a little part of me dies inside.
Have some compassion people.

Things have been changing fast. I didn’t expect the Dail not to ratify it but you ask if it makes sense. Well, no. :D

Just the poor saps that voted yes ;-) But unfortunately we’ll all suffer the consequences for decades.

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
― Thomas Jefferson

“The trade-off between freedom and security, so often proposed so seductively, very often leads to the loss of both.”

“Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither”
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
— BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

Somebody else said something along the lines that demovracy is the worst conceivable system of government……except for all the others.

The real fatal flaw with democracy though is that people who disagree with me also get a vote.

The fatal flaw with democracy is that we elect people who are suppose to be our voice, we vote for them based on the promises they make but once elected they do whatever the fook they want, no accountability, no one to answer too. It’s a false democracy that was created a long time a go. We need to move towards a more democratic style of government like direct democracy where people who want to have a say can be heard and listened to, the general public are a lot more educated these days and so are more capable of discussing and deciding on important issues, our elections are a farse at the moment, too many people don’t have a clue or care about what goes on and don’t vote, so take their vote away if they don’t want it and it’s too easy for government to brain wash these people into voting the way they want them too, fine Gael and co told pure BS for the last treaty and the opposition failed miserable to tell the people straight out what the consequences were, it left people scared and confused and people will always vote for what they believe is the safest option when in this state of mind, this is where the no side failed, all they could talk about was the possible negatives of voting yes instead of highlighting the definite positives of voting no. All parties are clueless at this stage and too selfish, it’s like a game between them at this stage, party politics needs to go. It’s an insult to the intelligence of the Irish people to be asked to change our constitution with a yes or no answer without our so called leader even explaining what the changes were. Also, some older people are of the opinion that they just have to vote in whatever way their party tells them too because that’s what they have done all their life, they didn’t have a clue what voting yes or no would do. We’ve been lied and cheated into selling our country to foreign banks, I don’t think ff/fg understand what they’ve done, they are too interested in their own personal finances

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
Henry Ford