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French teachers strike over plans to work 5-day week

In other news, we think we want to become teachers and move to France.

Teachers demonstrating in Marseille, southern France, in 2011 (file photo).
Teachers demonstrating in Marseille, southern France, in 2011 (file photo).
Image: Claude Paris/AP/Press Association Images

MOST PRIMARY SCHOOLS in Paris are shut today as teachers strike over the Socialist government’s plans to make children attend classes five days a week, instead of the current four.

President François Hollande promised as part of his election campaign last year to add a half day of classes on Wednesday – currently a day off – and shorten the school day for the rest of the week.

His argument was that French kids’ education was suffering because they had one of the shortest school years in Europe but the longest school day.

But teachers are worried that the extra half day – due to be introduced as from September this year – will add to what they see as their already heavy workload without any financial gain.

Jerome Lambert of the teachers’ union SNUipp-FSU noted that teachers, a majority of whom are Socialist supporters, were “disappointed” by what he said was a reform that in reality was no more than window-dressing.

“We need to reopen the debate,” he said.

Nicolas Wallet, a teacher from a central Paris school, said the government’s promise to provide sporting or cultural activities to make up for the shortened school day was not credible.

The education ministry has proposed a range of activities to fill the extra time children would have after school if the reform goes ahead.

But that could require extra staff and more funding from budgets already strained by the economic crisis gripping France.

The striking teachers have planned to hold a protest march today.

French primary schools have had a mid-week break since the 19th century.

But the state provides low-cost “leisure centres” – which are usually in schools – where working parents can send their children on Wednesdays.

Following his election in May, Hollande vowed to make education a key focus of his five-year term.

He proposed reducing the number of students forced to repeat grades, increasing teacher levels, schooling children at younger ages in disadvantaged areas and boosting measures to fight absenteeism.

- © AFP, 2013

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  • I wonder how they would react if they were told that they were going to pay the USC and a pension levy on top of their income tax.

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  • The Frenchies know how to put on a good old strike!

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  • The French people protesting against their government…. Why didn’t we think of that.

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    • No car tax in France, due to protests. Retirement age reversed and teachers are out now, will the Irish learn?

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    • No Stephen. We Irish are still in a drunken stupor for the hangover of 1916.

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    • @stephen,they also have a low “lifer on welfare” due to cutting tgem off after a while

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    • Hey Stephen/Christopher, have you organised/attended such protests? What are you doing from the safety of behind your monitors, as I’m sure you’re as guilty as the rest of us of being lethargic towards the situation preferring instead to add social commentary. But at the end of the day, you’re probably no better than the rest of us who get on with our lives, work and day jobs. Do you suggest going down the road of Greece-style rioting, thus causing more public expenditure?

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    • Mike & Stepehen. A private worker in Ireland has allot of reasons not to protests.

      1. Protest organisers want them on a week day so as to get the most attention, private workers will need to use up a valuable leave day to attend. (not an option for allot of people)
      2. If they skip out on work to attend a protest a private worker can get fired.
      3. If the protest turns violent and a private workers get caught up in it and captured on TV they can lose their jobs depending on who they work for.

      In France employment laws favour the employee so it is much safer for a private worker to protest there.

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    • Afraid of losing your doll cheque pog?

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    • Mjhint 22/01/13 #

      Stephen if your suggestion is the french motorist is better of because theres no road tax this is milseading. They dont have road tax like ours but the pay a lot more for petrol & road tolls. So the french motorist pays more than we do here.

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    • @ mjhint
      The petrol in France is on par with Ireland, I drive from Ireland every year, the most ive every paid was 10 cents extra on the motorway caus I was running low, in the towns its the same price or even cheaper.
      The motorways are not too bad, 1000km drive costs €26 in tolls, the same as driving to Cork 5 times from Dublin only their roads overthere are 100 times better than here, a regional road over there is the equivalent to our motorways. They pay for quality, we pay quality prices for rubbish

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  • 4 day week, Lazy buggers!

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  • This is even a new low for the French government,,5 days a week,,crazy

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  • One day the French will rule the world… but not tomorrow, they’re on strike

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  • The French are pompous in most respects, but whenever there is any attempt made to undermine there wages, working conditions or something that will reflect on them socially, out come those revolutionary tendencies and they tell the government to go f*** themselves , vive la France

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  • But yet ibec says our public servants have the best terms and conditions in europe. Something doesn’t add up. Have ibec been misleading the public?

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  • Cant at all blame them, anyone who knows remotely anything about pedagogy understands just what a demanding and responsible career it is.

    From a distance it looks simple but any decent educator who takes their role and their student’s learning seriously is destined to spend many hours outside shool time preparing lesson plans, activities, assessments etc.

    They are well within their right to oppose extra working demands that are to be introduced without any extra pay. We would do well to try emulate the protesting french public once in a while

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    • The problem is there are many teachers who don’t give a toss about their student’s education and there is no comprehensive system in place to review teacher performance. They can be as brilliant or as useless as they wish.

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    • Mark 22/01/13 #

      A lot of people out there have to bring there work home with them without the holidays ,pension that teachers get they do it so that they can get on in life or just to keep there jobs
      Welcome to the real world

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    • Totally agree and sadly its the case the world over. Australia has implimented some monitoring schemes, most notably naplan, which aims to rank students and in effect teachers and their schools. However it doesnt work entirely as learnings become more test centered and ultimately distracting from the vital numeracy and literacy studies. IMO teachers should be assessed annually, not to disimilair to what a pilot faces, to ensure they are maintaining and delivering the high standard of teaching pupils deserve

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    • No one is denying that Mark however if your employer was to inform you that you would be required to work extra hours – on top of the high workload you already have and that you would not see a single penny more for your labour would you be happy? Im guessing no..

      And yes other occupations also require work outside of office hours. Perhaps an architect, an engineer, an occupational therapist even. But im guessing they also tend to pay a bit better then a teacher.

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    • I’m sorry Alan but the reality is that being a teacher is a cushy job. I know a few teachers and my mother was a teacher. It is do as you like when you like. They are extremely well paid considering they have 12 weeks off over the summer and are finished work at 3.30 everyday. Yes SOME of them might work at home until 5, 6 or 7 but it’s not difficult work with the pressures of losing your job or making a massive mistake hanging over your head.

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    • @belly up,if it’s so cushy. You do it. What’s wrong with a cushy job? I wish I had a cushy job. So what if they get 12 weeks off for the summer? If they didn’t, then they would be compensated for such and rightly so. I wouldn’t mind being a teacher but I couldn’t imagine having to be in a classroom with 30 or so children or teenager ( lets face it, animals), so anyone who does deserves all the money they get.

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    • @stephen

      “Animals” !

      Wow thats a nice description of my two children.

      I sure hope you aren’t a teacher

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    • @thumb boy.
      Now come on teenagers are terrible people to teach. I always look back at my school, days, especially my teens and think something along the lines of ‘those poor teachers’. The stuff they have to put up with. Especially from a classroom of teenage boys must be hell. (I’m sure girls are no cakewalk either!)

      And don’t take things personally. I was an animal. My friends were animals. The jocks were animals. The nerds were animals. the stoners were animals. And I’m sure your kids are no saints either.

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    • Mark 22/01/13 #

      No I wouldn’t be happy but this has happened to thousands of people since companies have tightened there belts a not just the professional people you talk about but everyday workers who can only dream of having the perks teachers have as I said
      Welcome to the real world

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    • Belly up, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. Yes the holidays are great, but the world and its mother know what teacher holidays are, everyone has a choice to enter teaching if they wish. It’s the same argument rolled out again and again and it’s getting a little tired.
      What I am refuting is the notion that it’s a cushy number. It really isn’t. I’ve worked in retail and in business and teaching is the most demanding job I have ever done. I’m not complaining – yes it’s hard work and a lot of pressure but it’s rewarding. I love my job, I like going to work every day. How many people can say that ?
      I’m not going to write a long list of the responsibilities and pressures I face every day, I’m not looking for sympathy – it’s what I’m paid to do. There are harder and easier jobs out there but please don’t make judgements on what somebody does until you’ve tried if for yourself

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    • Belly Up…I doubt you have ever had the pleasure of standing in an overcrowded classroom, trying to implement an overloaded curriculum. It’s certainly not a cushy number by any means. As well as the crowd control of modern Irish classrooms teachers are constantly under scrutiny from principals & inspectors & must have detailed plans & monthly reviews for everything that they do. Corrections, staff-meetings, parent/teacher conferences, reports…the list goes on and on. When do you think all these things happen? Teachers work very hard & are for the most part dedicated proffessionals who enjoy their jobs despite the hard work.

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    • Interested to know who you would class as an “everyday worker”? Whr arent teachers included in this? I am a teacher and I work everyday . . confused!

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    • SPP 22/01/13 #

      @Bellyup: teaching is the most tiring job I’ve ever done….EVER!!!!

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  • I say fair play to them.. Give in to your government on one thing and they’ll have another cut for something in the pipeline as fast as you can blink an eye!!

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  • John 22/01/13 #

    I think there’s a certain perception of the French which pieces like these like to play on.

    Let’s try to dispel some of them. I used to live in France, here’s what some teachers there told me.

    Starting salaries are in the early 20s, once they graduate, they are deployed by the state based on need. It means many must do time in under privileged schools at the start of their career.

    Their tax rate is higher & they get fewer days off per year than in Ireland.

    I knew of at least some schools which had mandatory classes on Saturday mornings, if they were shut on Wednesdays.

    Those that I knew valued their time off, pensions & job security, even knowing they could be paid better elsewhere.

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  • Of course they strike today to give themselves another day off work and to cause maximum disruption and inconvenience to the children they educate. If they cared about the kids they could have had their strike on a Wednesday.

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    • The last time they went on strike they did it at the schools so the parents had somewhere to send the kids while they were in work as to not disrupt anything, they did nothing but stand around supervising the kids in turn while the majority of the teachers were outside the school protesting. It didnt work so this time they went all out

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    • lederdruid, I don’t think you understand the purpose of a strike

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  • I’m an Irish mother of two boys, living and educating my kids in France for many years. I can tell you that the vast majority of parents support the teachers strike, we simply don’t want a 5 day school week. French children are very well educated in the current system which is a lot tougher than Irelands so therefore 4 days is enough. My 10 year old finishes at 6pm!

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  • Viral marketing for Les Miserables?

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  • Ah the french
    If an asteroid hit French soil with the force of 10000 Hiroshimas, the first thing they would do would be to go on strike and blame the government for it

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  • Go France !! Only they can challenge the Germans !!!

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  • There may be trouble ahead as the French workers unlike the Idiot Irish know when they are being trampled upon.schools issue is a precursor to further cuts in France and watch the unions shut down the country. This type of action make it very awkward for Hollande to implement any austerity plans to the levels that were carried in Greece and Ireland. May cause new strains in the EU.

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  • If you can’t do, teach! If you can’t teach ,protest!

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