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Government urged to address ‘sub-standard’ prison conditions

The Irish Penal Reform Trust has also asked the government to commit to a timeframe in bringing prison conditions in line with international standards.

Inside Mountjoy Prison
Inside Mountjoy Prison
Image: Eamonn Farrell/Photocall Ireland

SUB-STANDARD PRISON conditions need to be addressed by the Government, the Irish Penal Reform Trust has said.

The IPRT said today that it is also calling on the Government to commit to specified timeframes in bringing Irish prison conditions in line with international standards.

It was responding to the Outcomes Report of Ireland’s first hearing under the UN Universal Periodic review.

Measures to address overcrowding, slopping out, violence, and the lack of effective complaints and monitoring mechanisms were recommended by 17 of the 48 member states present at the hearing, which took place in the Palais des Nations in Geneva this morning.

Fourteen member states recommended that the government ratify the Optional Protocol to the UN Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (OP-CAT).

The IPRT is asking the government to put in place an effective independent complaints mechanism for adult prisoners and children held in St Patrick’s Institution, which is required before Ireland can ratify the OP-CAT.

Speaking today, Liam Herrick, Executive Director of the IPRT said:

While we very much welcome the unequivocal acceptance by Government of all the recommendations on prison conditions, this is not the first time that an Irish government has committed on the international stage to addressing these issues. What we need now are specific plans, which are adequately resourced and linked to concrete timelines.

He said the IPRT believes that for as long as prisoners have to slop out in overcrowded conditions, the State is leaving itself open to legal action by prisoners.

He added that the IPRT is “disappointed” at the government’s failure to address directly the recommendation to extend the remit of the Ombudsman for Children to accept individual complaints from the children held in St Patrick’s Institution.

We also need the new Government to act on its commitment in the Programme for Government to build the long-promised National children Detention Centre at Oberstown in Lusk, and to bring an end to the imprisonment of children in St Patrick’s Institution.

There were 4,257 people in prison custody in Ireland on 5 October 2011.

There were 1,014 incidents of violence in 2010, which was 2.5 per day for a population of 4,300 – a 25 per cent increase since 2009.

Slopping out

On 17 December 2010, 1,003 men were required to slop out in Irish prisons, while a further 1,866 were required to use the toilet facilities in the presence of others.

On 26 January of this year, there were 250 prisoners on 23-hour or more lock-up (for reasons of protection); 26 on 22-23 hour lock-up; 164 on 20-22 hr lock-up (including 57 in St Patrick’s Institution) and 60 on 18-20 hr lock-up.

In a statement, a Department of Justice spokesperson said the government is “committed to the elimination” of slopping out in prisons, adding that 72 per cent of cells currently have sanitation facilities. He said that upgrade works are currently under way in one wing of Mountjoy, and an extension to the Midlands Prison due to open next year will add to the number of cells with sanitation.

Regarding those cells without toilet facilities, the Department said:

The Irish Prison Service also has toilet patrols in operation until late evening in Mountjoy, Cork and Limerick Prisons with staff rostered to provide this function after final lock in the evenings. Prisoners requesting to use toilet facilities after these times are accommodated where possible. The possibility of extending toilet patrols is being further examined by the Irish Prison Service.

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Comments (23 Comments)

  • What do they expect, a five star hotel, there has to be some deterrent to breaking the law and if sub standard prisons deter someone from re offending then what’s the problem, a murderer or rapist is getting off a lot lighter having to “slop out” than the life they have taken from their victims

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    • It doesn’t deter, we have quite a high reoffending rate in Ireland. In Scandinavia where prisons are more like hostels reoffending is very low. Society should be judged on how it treats it’s worst etc.

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  • Totally agree with above comment. It would be more in line for the UN to air such concerns about nursing homes for the elderly.

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  • Tara 10/10/11 #

    Maybe the issue of how minor offenders are treated and where they go to serve their sentances should be made a priority…I don’t see the logic in housing teen offenders in the likes of Mountjoy..it opens up a whole new world of hardened criminals & drugs to them..but then the welfare of children was never a priority in Ireland.

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  • Why I ask. They’re not in for some sort of spa treatment are they? How about: don’t become s bloody criminal in the first place?

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  • What do they expect, mini maids in to clean up after them?

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  • The prisons in this country aren’t inhumane enough. Many prisoners love being in there and can’t wait to go back in on release. Where is the deterrent ?

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  • Let them out of their filth for a day’s hard graft.Bring in the chain gangs and clean up canals,etc.Perhaps a little shame might deter them in future.Human rights,my arse.What is wrong with society when they pander to prisoners’demands.They have it so good, young lads offend repeatedly to get back in to see their mates.They are lucky that they are not shackled in a dungeon somewhere.maybe that might be a good deterrent !

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  • Irish prisons are also a workplace. Prison Officers have rights as employees to work in as safe an environment as possible. In cell sanitation, and humane conditions save tax payers money by helping to minimise violence in prison.

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  • I love how you never hear these self same do gooders banging on to the government about the rights of the victims of crime?! These scumbags are there for infringing on the rights of others in our state be it the right to property, life or personal safety. Any who infringe on those rights willingly doesnt deserve rights of their own! So what they have to shovel sh1te in the morning, it’s good enough for them! I don’t think prisoners deserve any rights. They were quick enough to deny them to others!

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  • Maybe if Prison wasn’t such a easy , relaxed place (sky tv , meals made for them – whatever they want , gym etc , ) scumbags wouldn’t be doing crime

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    • no gym? increased medical costs due to more unhealthy patients.
      no TV? cause boredom reduces re-offending rates.
      cook their own meals. in mountjoy there is one supervisory cook and the rest… are prisoners.

      what? oh sorry, didn’t realise you didn’t want facts and was just being populist and idiotic. won’t make that mistake again.

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  • They should run the prisons as they do in Russia, i.e. The Black Dolphin. It would be enough to keep anyone on the straight and narrow if the prisons were run like that throughout the Western World.

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  • They better improve the conditions as the bankers work like it one bit if they have to slop out.

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  • Harsh prison conditions (and particularly harsh prison sentences for smaller crimes) have been proven not to deter criminals or would-be criminals from offending, and have also been conclusively shown to make former prisoners more likely to re-offend. The whole point of prison is supposed to be rehabilitation, not purely (if at all) sadistic treatment.

    Making the criminal less likely to re-offend and contribute to society upon release is a much more obvious benefit to society IMO. I don’t see how treating someone inhumanely somehow rights their previous wrongs. I mean it’s obviously not supposed to attract people to commit crimes by having such good conditions but essentially encouraging them to commit more afterwards hardly helps either.

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  • I am not sure what to think about this. Should one forfeit rights (legal, human, civil) if they break the law? Perhaps in some cases. My first thought leans towards the gulag-style, dickensian house of pain.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing a poll of what people thought about this.

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  • Yvonne M 11/10/11 #

    How did a comment 2 hours old jump in there 2nd from the top?! I was agreeing with the first comment…

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    • Your comment made a lot more sense than the comment that jumped ahead, to many do gooders in this country, we need to focus on the important issues like looking after our elderly and ensuring that conditions in nursing homes are drastically improved, these are people who have shaped and contributed to our society in a positive way….

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  • Bring back the Birch!

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